I myself am not a big fan of the trailer queens and the money cars , I admire the craftsmanship but realize in a lot of instances it's all about money...I love all cars whether how should I say it...Normal or Abnormal, but what I enjoy the most is the friends and relationships you can have with people enjoying the same thing....There's nothing better than seeing a line of kick**** cars going down the road in single file and watching everyone's chin drop.... My take is this....build what you want, enjoy and be happy with what you have and don't piss on someone else's pride and joy!
There will always be the 'haves' versus the 'have nots' debate and the envy - it seems to be a part of human nature. But to paraphrase Tex Smith 'Use what you have got - if you have time use time, if you have money use money, if you have talent use talent - if you have all three, you are very blessed' or words to that effect.
This is the usual argument when someone wants to put an early car on a late model or S10 frame, then they get advice here to stick with the original frame. Is that what you're really mad about?
this is what I got out of it too, as much as I do believe in using what you have, either parts, money, talent or whatever, you must remember that this is a traditional hot rod and custom site. if what you are working with is not traditional then you should not expect too much encouragement here.. in fact you may see your post removed. another thought I had was that there seems to be a lot of "rant" threads lately, I'm not sure if this is because there really have been more rants posted or not but it may be that they are not being removed as fast as in the past..
Gotcha on that. I've built many cars in a 40' carport (and now I don't even have that) since I left my 2 big shops in Houston back in 1985. Sure it was hard working on my hot rods, as well as the wife and kids' drivers, without protection from the elements, but the goal was to succeed in getting it done. The proud fact is, I did it my way with what I have and most of my tools and equipt are old but they work well and many are outlasting me. Success in life begins with getting off your**** or away from the "puter and doing without concern for hurt. If you just think about what you'll do as soon as everything is juuust right, you'll never get anywhere. If you do, you'll wake up one day and telling yourself, "Man, I'm getting old, but I still want to do lot's of things, HURRY MIkey before you die". Don't wait of others, you gotta get started to get ahead. Better to do the right thing instead of doing the thing right. Because if you wait around until the timing is perfect, you may be dead before that happens. Mikey www.mikeyspinstriping.com Coming soon... "VROOM! The Car Guy's Guide to Success in Life & Business"
im not pointing fingers at anyone on this board, but hell give respect to others that are atleast trying and willing to take on there 1st or 2nd project. whether its a 30A on 32 rails or a 53 on an s-10 chassis it doesnt matter, its what the builder wants to do with what he or she has on hand or can afford. just dont critisize them for what they are doing, just them the encouragement to move along with the project. we all have some experience with doing different kinds of swaps. i dont condone to what others do, i just give them alittle help with what i have done and experienced in the past, and if you personally havent it done it, dont tell them its wrong or cant be done. if you have nothing positive to say and cant give the proper encouragement to take on the build, just keep it yourself. its a learning curve and we all learn from our own experiences. yes i do agree in with some builds the its best to us original or as close to original chassis but only on the aspect of the final outcome, meaning running a 30A without fenders and having an ifs up front sticking, but if thats that someone wants then thats cool its there ride, but i dont go and give then negative attitude about it. I didnt get a lathe for Xmas or anything else for that matter cuz it doesnt bother me, and i dont drink at all, maybe i should start . lets keep the hobby going and the brother/sisterhood alive and not piss on the parades of others as the goverernment does that everyday to us all
I am going over to look at the Garage Journal at all the big fancy garages with lots of tools. Not because I am jealous but because I like big fancy garages and am using the ideas to build mine. Capitolism and hard work good, "us vs. the man" childish.
Thats "stole" I still do as always ,,make what i can with what i have,,modify some tools to do things,,etc etc,,if a friend has a tool or machine that i need for the job,,I'm lucky in all i have to do is ask. You have to remember this is teh internet,,not the real world.. in the real world you wouldn't give a***** casue you'd be "doing" not reading about,,and reading otehrs opinions so you rant is kinda lost casue someones gonna****** about that too today I have a hacksaw and some wishbones that need to be made to fit my needs,,drawn straight lines ,,hope i can stay in the lines and be happy with what i make
While it's never good to belittle a person, sometimes there is a better way. Technically, I could go grab a rock, start rubbing it on metal, and make a cut. Wouldyou be a bad guy for pointing out the existence of sawzalls? Probably not, despite the fact sawzalls cost more than rocks. People get so quick to judge anything involving money, thus we all do a different dance around a touchy subject. Want to take this to a whole nother dimension??? A lot of this revolves around self image. Many among us can't even picture themselves in something decent. It's a foreign concept. Others among us are confident of reaching a fully finished car and see it as a clear cut destiny. If a person is uncomfortable picturing themselves in fully finished cars, you will see huge amounts of resistance to the "money" required to go the last mile. It's not really about money though. Cars, and the people who love them, are f-ing fascinating
We learn it by doing it. We are all in charge of our own attitude. Some will do it and some won't, whether encouraged, or not. If not, no loss, because somebody else will do it anyhow.............. Rule #one; No whining. Telling somebody that they can't do something is neither right or wrong. If they listen to that, tough. If they take it as a challenge, that's just fine. The strong survive.
It's been a little difficult to decipher your posts but the one thing that hits me is this comment above. If someone comes here with a billet barge, streetrod jelly bean they can expect to get torn up. There is a simple rule of thumb on the HAMB. If you can't handle the comments after you ask for them, DON'T POST! Its just that damn simple.
This is one of the most right on and correct replies to this turd hunt. I know that mind, that attitude really, about top quality execution and finish. It's like a resentment that can't be repaired. Haters. My mind says who wouldn't want perfect? Why not be the best? Why not listen? Then there's the one who keeps asking until he gets the answer he wants, usually as wrong as can be, then follows that advice. And the one who takes your time, gets professional direction, all the required steps and no-no's to avoid, only to ask 10 others if you told him right but 9 of em are clueless and never knew the right way. The running joke is that you can't fix stupid. Let's face it there's a ton of really stupid cars over all the eras. I say we can't save em all and that captures all of those that simply are not worth saving. How many times here do you see "you get it or you don't"?
Amen. For most of us, the point of the whole old car/hot rod deal is to have fun, learn some skills, express some creativity, make friends and earn some satisfaction from our efforts. Unfortunately, there are a few among us whose only function in life seems to be mocking the efforts of those who, in their view, don't measure up to "traditional" or "correct" standards. The same "hot rod police" sneer at those with cars with high levels of investment, craftmanship (pro or amateur) and design. This is usually expressed as some variation of the "what ... you think you're better than me?" attitude. Who needs the drama and trama? If you like my efforts and tell me so, thank you. If you don't and tell me, I really don't care and my response will probably end with the phrase "and the horse you rode in on!" I think we all have more important issues that we would like to see on HAMB.
Your post brings my dad to mind. If you ask him about how he would do something, and he's in a bad mood, often he will say "It's too much work, you should just pay someone to do it" or, "It can't be done without this special tool". You can ask the same question when he's in a good mood and he will run out to the garage, and we'll rifle through what we have to see how we can make it work, or how to make that "special" tool.
Thanks for the kind words, but haters aren't really what I had in mind. It's more like a fear of having to change who they are to meet the finish level of their ride. Sometimes it comes across as hateful, but sometimes it's just weird decisions driven out of a value system with the top lopped off.
The Jalopy Journal
