I have a question regarding my ladder bars, opions needed.

Ok, so in lieu of the holiday evening, and my birthday tomorrow, i spent some time out in the shop this evening working on my sedan. I made some ladder bars, but somthing just doesnt look right about them. Anybody care to chime in? Also, im curious about the various ways to mount them to the rear. I could use 3 heim joints per side, one on the front, and 2 on the back, but i also considered hard mounting them to the rear end, since they basically are anyway, and just having a bolt on type deal. I know that i would lose some adjustment, but with heims, i would only have about 3/4 of an inch anyway.

Oh, and by the way, turning the big 19 tomorrow. Whoo

Any help is appreciated.

No im not doing a 4 bar.

 

I run coilovers with ladder bars on my race car and the main reasons for rod ends is to be able to adjust the traction in a race car but they also allow you to dial in your pinion angle.If it is a street car you may want to angle them in at the front,similar to a "truck arm" type system to keep the rear centered,or you need a panhard bar or diagonal link to keep the rear from moving side to side. ROY.

 

You need a panhard bar either way.Unless you`re using parallel leaf or transverse spring.

 

You need to use clevises in the back and Heims in the front. Ladder bars are designed to keep the rear end somewhat centered front to back and to transfer weight to the back of the car. You did not mention what type of car this is going in or your spring set up but unless you are using coils you don't need a fucking Panard bar !

 

Fuzzy
I was not clear on what type of Panard bar was not needed

 

I know i need a panhard bar. Its going under a 29' sedan with a custom coil spring rear suspension.

 

Did I not say this???
but unless you are using coils you don't need a fucking Panard bar !

 

I am using coils

 

Looks like concreteman sent you all on a loop.

 

Coilovers don't help you, you need a panhard bar anyways...
Here's my setup:

 

The shorter the ladder bars are the more likely that you might have to change/correct the pinion angle. If you ever raise or lower the rear suspension you'll also probably have to change the pinion angle if you're running shorter ladder bars. I advise making the ladder bars adjustable and not making them hard mounted. The labor/parts cost between making them adjustable vs. non-adjustable is very little. If the ladder bars are long it won't matter nearly as much.

(edit) Your ladder bars look pretty long so if you set it up correctly you should be able to hard mount them.

My truck is running adjustable short ladder bars, generic "coil overs", and a panhard.

 

I am clear now the Brand Panard Bar to use is Fucking

 

lmao

 

What size square tubing and wall thickness are you using?

 

Its 1 1/4 .120 wall steel