Features VINTAGE SPRINT CAR PIC THREAD, 1965 and older only please.

That is Hoyt in the car. He was killed in 1955, sprint race in Oklahoma.

 

The Morris Special! very cool pics Thanks!

 

Cool pic. I actually do not have this pic.
I have the silk embroidered uniform from this year but no pics.
The guy second from the right is my Grandfather.
The guy second from the left is "Doc" Morris.
Do you know of any more pics from the early 50's of Indy cars?
I only have a few of grandpa's cars. Thanks again for the great pic.

 

My Dad told me Hoyt was killed in a race car but didn't really know any details.

 

Here are a few pics of one of a car my Grandpa built in the late 40's I am not sure but I think Dad told me the track was in southern Ill. A guy by the name of Gene Alldredge from Princeton In. drove the car for Grandpa.
I posted this in the cageless midget thread but somebody there said its a sprint car. Grandpa started building midgets then sprints then champ cars. All way before my time.

 

Here ya go, you'll find several more of the Morris Spl. on page 12:

http://www.indy500.com/photos/1950/01/01/133/Indianapolis_500

 

Here are the stats from 1950.

The car is a KK2000 Offy powered. Jerry Hoyt driver.
<table width="100%"><tbody><tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"><td class="xl24" style="height: 12.75pt; width: 5%;" width="65" align="left" height="17" valign="top">1</td> <td class="xl25" style="width: 8%;" x:num="18413" width="69" align="center" valign="top">5/30/1950</td> <td class="xl24" style="width: 8%;" width="64" align="center" valign="top">Indianapolis</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 4%;" width="64" valign="top">PO</td> <td class="xl28" style="width: 8%;" width="64" valign="top">AAA</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 4%;" width="64" align="left" valign="top">81</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 15%;" width="64" valign="top">Dr. Morris</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 10%;" x:str="Kurtis 2000 " width="64" valign="top">Kurtis 2000</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 10%;" x:str="Offy " width="64" valign="top">Offy</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 4%;" width="64" align="left" valign="top">15</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 4%;" width="64" align="left" valign="top">21</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 4%;" width="64" align="left" valign="top">125</td> <td class="xl26" colspan="2" style="width: 12%;" width="128" valign="top">Flagged &#8211; rain</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl26" style="height: 12.75pt; width: 5%;" height="17" valign="top">--</td> <td class="xl27" x:num="18425" style="width: 8%;" align="center" valign="top">6/11/1950</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 8%;" align="center" valign="top">Milwaukee 1</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 4%;" valign="top">DO</td> <td class="xl28" style="width: 8%;" valign="top">AAA</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 4%;" align="left" valign="top">81</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 15%;" valign="top">Dr. Morris</td> <td class="xl26" x:str="Kurtis 2000 " style="width: 10%;" valign="top">Kurtis 2000</td> <td class="xl26" x:str="Offy " style="width: 10%;" valign="top">Offy</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 4%;" valign="top">--</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 4%;" valign="top">--</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 4%;" valign="top">--</td> <td class="xl26" colspan="2" style="" width="12%" valign="top">Hit wall in practice</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl26" style="height: 12.75pt; width: 5%;" align="left" height="17" valign="top">2</td> <td class="xl27" x:num="18439" style="width: 8%;" align="center" valign="top">6/25/1950</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 8%;" align="center" valign="top">Langhorne</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 4%;" valign="top">DO</td> <td class="xl28" style="width: 8%;" valign="top">AAA</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 4%;" align="left" valign="top">81</td> <td class="xl26" x:str="Dr. Morris " style="width: 15%;" valign="top">Dr. Morris</td> <td class="xl26" x:str="Kurtis 2000 " style="width: 10%;" valign="top">Kurtis 2000</td> <td class="xl26" x:str="Offy " style="width: 10%;" valign="top">Offy</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 4%;" align="left" valign="top">13</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 4%;" align="left" valign="top">8</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 4%;" align="left" valign="top">99</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 12%;" valign="top">Flagged</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 5%;" align="right" valign="top">50</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl26" style="height: 12.75pt; width: 5%;" height="17" valign="top">--</td> <td class="xl27" x:num="18494" style="width: 8%;" align="center" valign="top">8/19/1950</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 8%;" align="center" valign="top">Springfield 1</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 4%;" valign="top">DO</td> <td class="xl28" style="width: 8%;" valign="top">AAA</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 4%;" align="left" valign="top">81</td> <td class="xl26" x:str="Dr. Morris " style="width: 15%;" valign="top">Dr. Morris</td> <td class="xl26" x:str="Kurtis 2000 " style="width: 10%;" valign="top">Kurtis 2000</td> <td class="xl26" x:str="Offy " style="width: 10%;" valign="top">Offy</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 4%;" valign="top">--</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 4%;" valign="top">--</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 4%;" valign="top">--</td> <td class="xl26" colspan="2" style="" width="12%" valign="top">Burned piston</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl26" style="height: 12.75pt; width: 5%;" align="left" height="17" valign="top">3</td> <td class="xl27" x:num="18515" style="width: 8%;" align="center" valign="top">9/9/1950</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 8%;" align="center" valign="top">Syracuse</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 4%;" valign="top">DO</td> <td class="xl28" style="width: 8%;" valign="top">AAA</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 4%;" align="left" valign="top">81</td> <td class="xl26" x:str="Dr. Morris " style="width: 15%;" valign="top">Dr. Morris</td> <td class="xl26" x:str="Kurtis 2000 " style="width: 10%;" valign="top">Kurtis 2000</td> <td class="xl26" x:str="Offy " style="width: 10%;" valign="top">Offy</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 4%;" align="left" valign="top">12</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 4%;" align="left" valign="top">11</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 4%;" align="left" valign="top">96</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 12%;" valign="top">Flagged</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 5%;" align="right" valign="top">20</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl26" style="height: 12.75pt; width: 5%;" height="17" valign="top">--</td> <td class="xl27" x:num="18537" style="width: 8%;" align="center" valign="top">10/1/1950</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 8%;" align="center" valign="top">Springfield 2</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 4%;" valign="top">DO</td> <td class="xl28" style="width: 8%;" valign="top">AAA</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 4%;" align="left" valign="top">81</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 15%;" valign="top">Dr. Morris</td> <td class="xl26" x:str="Kurtis 2000 " style="width: 10%;" valign="top">Kurtis 2000</td> <td class="xl26" x:str="Offy " style="width: 10%;" valign="top">Offy</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 4%;" valign="top">--</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 4%;" valign="top">--</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 4%;" valign="top">--</td> <td class="xl26" colspan="2" style="" width="12%" valign="top">Did not qualify</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl26" style="height: 12.75pt; width: 5%;" align="left" height="17" valign="top">4</td> <td class="xl27" x:num="18607" style="width: 8%;" align="center" valign="top">12/10/1950</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 8%;" align="center" valign="top">Darlington</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 4%;" valign="top">PO</td> <td class="xl28" style="width: 8%;" valign="top">AAA</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 4%;" align="left" valign="top">81</td> <td class="xl26" x:str="Dr. Morris " style="width: 15%;" valign="top">Dr. Morris</td> <td class="xl26" x:str="Kurtis 2000 " style="width: 10%;" valign="top">Kurtis 2000</td> <td class="xl26" x:str="Offy " style="width: 10%;" valign="top">Offy</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 4%;" align="left" valign="top">20</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 4%;" align="left" valign="top">11</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 4%;" align="left" valign="top">157</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 12%;" valign="top">Flagged</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 5%;" align="right" valign="top">40</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl26" style="height: 12.75pt; width: 5%;" height="17" valign="top">
</td> <td class="xl27" x:num="18778" style="width: 8%;" align="center" valign="top">
</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 8%;" align="center" valign="top">
</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 4%;" valign="top">
</td> <td class="xl28" style="width: 8%;" valign="top">
</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 4%;" align="left" valign="top">
</td> <td class="xl26" style="width: 15%;" valign="top">
</td></tr></tbody></table>

 

Thank you Rootie Kazootie.

 

What a coincidence since Josh just mentioned picking up a KK2000 for restoration, I believe.

Wonder which KK2000 Josh has?

 

Women in the pits in the 1940s!!! I'll bet they got run off real quick. Looks like that may be Joie Ray in the So. Star.

 

Thanks again Rootie Kazootie here is the car from 1952. I'll have to check 1950 to 1955 for the others. Thanks again for the link.

 

Easy there Rootie, Thats my Grandma.

 

Where in southern Ind was your granpa from. I grew up in southern Ind

 

Fort Branch.

 

Guess I wouldn't know him then I livede close to Salem. Did he ever have cars run at Salem?

 

Yes. Quite often I was told.

 

Doesn't matter one bit.. This was the Golden ere, and women and kids were escorted out.. EVEN IF THEY OWNED THE CAR!

KILLER PICS!! Definatly a KK200 Kurtis Champ car. Thanks for sharing..

Buildy, I'm working on the research for the KK2000 we just brought in.. I have it back to 54-55 for sure, but have a hunch about 53 back to 48..

I'll share pics as soon as I can.

 

Looking forward to it Josh!

KK2000 was a beautiful machine.

If you need info on the Kurtis Kraft, author Gordon White is the guy to go to.

He knows what serial no was what car,etc.

 

Bob, that's great! I wonder what the two entries for "Schumacher" was for? I know that sometimes the would bring two cars to a race.

 

Car number 28 didn't have a driver listed the #33 was driven by Harold Paust. I mailed the program copy in Danbury today 1/10 of a mile from the track the car ran on in 1937. Like many old tracks it is now covered with a shopping mall. The start finish line in in the center of Macy's department store. Sort of ironic, since Jerry Macy Willetts who lived here in town raced Midgets there in the 1930-1950's.

 

Seen a quick blurb in Spd. Sport News that Joe Saldana is fighting cancer. Does anyone have more details. These Golden Years SUCK

 

Does anybody have any info about a Bill Lindau,from Pittsburgh,Pa. He claimed to me to have run in the Indy 500 in 1929,and later had a career is supermodified racing at Oswego and Sandusky into the mid 1960's. He had an old Indy picture, and the statistics do list him as a finisher in 1929.Since I am from Pittsburgh, and am an open wheeler myself,I would like to learn more about him. John S.

 

I don`t know anything about Bill Lindau,but if he was very young when qualifying at Indy in 1929,that he could have still been racing in the 60s.

Len Duncan started racing in the late 20s or very early 30s and Len ran as late as the early 1980s! Aren`t many with the longevity of the one and Only Len Duncan,though.

One amazing driver that I can think of is Stock car driver Hershel McGriff who started racing early in the 50s or maybe late 40s, and was going to compete in Winston west well into his 80s recently.

 

Thanks Buildy.. I've spoken with him about the car a few times, and he was helpful, but I still want more proof to satisfy myself.. and it's comming!

JD

 

THANK YOU sir and WELCOME!!!!

 

These "ain't" our Golden Years .. NO WAY!!!!

We had our Golden Years when we were in our 30's & 40's, but were either too busy &/or too dumb to realize it!!!!

 

Went to a racing show at York Fairgrounds Sat and found some old photos for 30 cents each.

Mlight9 and I were talking about the new restoration of the Vargo Stretched Midget sprinter early in the show.
Later in the day I found this one.
Tommy Hinnershitz and??? walking-Vargo #5 in pit as the other cars run a heat race. I presume-Photo says 1963 Williams Grove USAC Sprint ARDC Midget show on the back.



Bob Harkey after the feature.

 

William "Bill" Holmes, from New York (Brewster, Astoria/Long Island or Brooklyn)

1933 ARA (Automobile Racing Assoc.), # L-1 "Fal Special"
Sep 17, Ho-Ho-Kus (NJ), 2nd
Sep 20, Troy Hills/Parsippany (NJ), 1st
Sep 24, Ho-Ho-Kus (NJ), 3rd
Sep 27, Troy Hills/Parsippany (NJ), 2nd

1933 AAA, # 3 "Riley Special"
Oct 7, Danbury (CT), 8 m, dns (3rd in consy)

1934 ARA, # 40 "Honner Special"
- no individual results, but won ARA championship (1060 or 1090 pts, 2nd Al Jepsen 570 or 670), also won track championships at Cross Bay and Deer Park

1935 AAA, # 21 or 22 "Green Engineering Special", possibly also # 99 "Drake Special"
May 30, Ho-Ho-Kus (NJ), 15 m, ? (3rd in heat 2)
Jun 20, Woodbridge (NJ), 20 m, 4th (3rd in heat 3)
Aug 31, Flemington (NJ), 15 m, 3rd?
Nov 3, Charlotte (NC), 15 m, 2nd?
Nov 4, Charlotte (NC), 15 m, ? (2nd in heat 1)?

1936 no info

1937 AAA, "Varley Special" etc.
Apr 25, Reading (PA), 18½/20 m, dna?
May 16, Langhorne (PA), 28/50 m, dna?
May 31, Readville (MA), 25 m, dna?
Jun 6, Union (NJ), 12/15 m, 1st
Aug 8, Ho-Ho-Kus (NJ), ?
Aug 21, Middletwon (NY), 15 m, 4th? (qualified 2nd, won heat 2)
Sep 6, Flemington (NJ), 15 m, ? (2nd in heat 1)

1938 AAA
May 30, Ho-Ho-Kus (NJ), 15 m, 1st and track record (14'10.8")
42nd in Eastern Circuit standings with 60 points


Al Cusick, from Pennsylvania (Brookline,Philadelphia, Upper Darby or Ardmore), possible Massachusetts connection

1935 AAA, "Ford Special" etc.
Jun 16, Langhorne (PA), 50 m, 6th
Jul 4, Pottsville/Cressona (PA), 20 m, ? (won heat 3)
Aug 3, Harrington (DE), 15 m, dns (8th in consy)
Aug 18, Langhorne (PA), 50 m, 6th
Sep 14, Altamont (NY), 15 m, dna?
Sep 15, Reading (PA), 15 m, dns (ret in consy)
Oct 19, Spartanburg (SC), 14½/15 m, dna?

1936 AAA, "Riley Special", "Schumacher Special" etc.
Apr 26, Reading (PA), 20 m, dns (qualified 19th)
Jul 4, Hamburg (NY), 15 m, dna?
Aug 8, Lewistown (PA), 15 m, dna?
Aug 14, Altamont (NY), 13/15 m, dna?
Aug 15, Altamont (NY), 15 m, dns (qualified 16th, 5th in consy)
Aug 22, Middletown (NY), 15 m, dns (qualified 4th, 5th in heat 1, 6th in heat 2)
Sep 27, Reading (PA), 15 m, dns (qualified 20th, 6th in consy)
Oct 3, Goshen (NY), 35 m, ret? (started 11th, 3rd in heat 3)

1937 AAA, "Schumacher Special" etc.?
Apr 25, Reading (PA), 18½/20 m, dns (qualified 12th)
May 16, Langhorne (PA), 28/50 m, ???
May 31, Altamont (NY), 15 m, 4th (qualified 9th, won heat 3)
Jul 5, Roosevelt (NY), 300 m, ret (qualified 29th)
Jul 5, Altamont (NY), 15 m, dna
Aug 21, Middletown (NY), 15 m, dna?
Aug 28, Altamont (NY), 15 m, dns (qualified 17th, 5th in consy)
Aug 29, Altamont (NY), 15 m, dns (qualified 5th, 4th in consy)

1938 AAA, driving for Bill Lenhart and Ray Brady (Cragar), etc.
Apr 24, Reading (PA), 20 m, dna?
May 22, Langhorne (PA), 50 m, ? (2nd in heat 3)
Jul 31, Langhorne (PA), 25 m, ?
Aug 6, Lewistown (PA), 15 m, ?
Aug 20, Middletwon (NY), 20 m, ?
Sep 5, Altoona (PA), 45 m, dna?
Sep 25, Reading (PA), 15 m, dna?


Johnny Cebula, from New Jersey (Manville/Mansfield?, Atlantic City, New Brunswick or Paterson), possible Long Island/New York connections

1932 ARA?
May 22, Newmarket/Dunellen (NJ), 10 m, 4th

1932 AAA, "Ambler Special"
Sep 17, Reading (PA), 10 m, dns (qualified 5th, 3rd in heat 2)

1933 ARA, # 1? "Vetere Special"
May 30, Ho-Ho-Kus (NJ), 12½ m, 1st
Jun 18, Ho-Ho-Kus (NJ), dns (accident in qualifying)
Jul 23, Ho-Ho-Kus (NJ), 1st
Jul 30, Deer Park (NY), 1st
Aug 13, Deer Park (NY), 1st
Sep 10, Deer Park (NY), 1st
Sep 13, Troy Hills/Parsippany (NJ), 1st
Sep 17, Ho-Ho-Kus (NJ), 4th
Sep 24, Deer Park (NY), 1st
Sep 27, Troy Hills/Parsippany (NJ), 3rd
Oct 4, Troy Hills/Parsippany (NJ), 3rd
Oct 8, Deer Park (NY), 5th
Oct 11, Troy Hills/Parsippany (NJ), 2nd
Oct 18, Troy Hills/Parsippany (NJ), 1st
Oct 22, Ho-Ho-Kus (NJ), 2nd
Oct 29, Deer Park (NY), 1st
Nov 5, Ho-Ho-Kus (NJ), 12½ m, ret (accident)
won ARA championship

1934 AAA, "Wabecko Special"
Sep 23, Reading (PA), 15 m, dns (qualified 14th)

1935 AAA, "Peterson Ford"?, "Buckley Special" etc.
May 12, Langhorne (PA), 50 m, ? (qualified 14th?, 4th in consy)
Sep 14, Altamont (NY), 15 m, dns (qualified 22nd)
Sep 15, Altamont (NY), 15 m, 7th (qualified 8th, 5th in heat 2, 2nd in heat 3)
Oct 13, Langhorne (PA), 100 m, ret (started 13th)

1936 AAA, "Buckley Special"
Oct 12, Roosevelt (NY), 300 m, dns (qualified 46th)

1937 AAA
May 31, Altamont (NY), 15 m, dns (qualified 11th, 3rd in consy)
Jul 5, Altamont (NY), 15 m, dna?
Aug 21, Middletown (NY), 15 m, ? (qualified in 33.4")
Aug 28, Altamont (NY), 15 m, dns (qualified 18th, 8th in consy)
Aug 29, Altamont (NY), 15 m, dns (qualified 15th, 5th in consy)

1938 no info

1939 AAA
May 30, Union (NJ), 15 m, dns? (3rd in consy)
Jun 20, Union (NJ), 15 m, dns (5th in consy)
Jul 18, Union (NJ), 15 m, dns (engine, won consy)
Aug 19, Middletwon (NY), 15 m, dns (8th in consy)
Aug 20, Williams Grove (PA), 20 m, ?
Aug 26, Bedford (PA), ?
Sep 17, Reading (PA), 15 m, dna?


Harold "Harry" Paust, from New York (Yonkers), possibly Upper Darby/Philadelphia (PA)

1936 AAA, "Cragar Special" etc.?
Apr 26, Reading (PA), 20 m, dna?
Aug 14, Altamont (NY), 13/15 m, dna?
Oct 3, Goshen (NY), 35 m, dns (5th in consy)

1937 AAA, "Schumacher Special" etc.?
Apr 25, Reading (PA), 18½/20 m, dns (qualified 14th)
May 31, Altamont (NY), 15 m, dna?
Aug 21, Middletown (NY), 15 m, ? (qualified in 30.4")
Aug 28, Altamont (NY), 15 m, dns (qualified 19th, 9th in consy)
Aug 29, Altamont (NY), 15 m, dns (qualified 14th)

1938 no info

1939 AAA
Jul 18, Union (NJ), 15 m, 8th (won heat 3)
Aug 1, Union (NJ), 15 m, dns (5th in heat 1, 4th in heat 2)
Aug 15, Union (NJ), 15 m, ret (engine, 6th in heat 1, 4th in heat 2, 3rd in heat 3)
Sep 5, Union (NJ), 15 m, ?
Sep 24, Union (NJ), 11½/15 m, 7th (6th in heat 1, 5th in heat 2, won heat 3)

 

Haven't found much but he also ran a couple of times on the boardtracks. Supermodifieds must have seemed pretty tame after that.

http://www.motorsport.com/stats/champ/qcareer.asp?D=Bill_Lindau

 

Sorry for the multiple posts, but I had a terrible time getting my posts through today - what have I done wrong? I WAS JUST TRYING TO BE HELPFUL!!!

I will now go and delete them!

Hey Kid, would it be possible for you to send me a copy of that programme, too? Need my email?