Frame Swap

LMAO, I only have to cut up the bed, the rest should fit just fine.

 

On a 4x4? I'd just go to the Salvation Army, buy all the bed frames and weld them all over until the cab and box are secure. Buy a tin of Skoal, some Old Mil, cut off your flannel sleeves and head for hills.

 

Yeah, I'm going to put my '49 5 window on a '78 full size 4x4 Blazer frame.

 

wow, after 5 years you came back to the wrong place....

 

So let's see, making a loved truck into a 4x4 is redneck and hillbilly but slamming one into the weeds is...........

Why the wrong place, it's still a classic truck.

 

because its not something that was tradtionaly done to a hot rod.

not making a hot rod, this isnt the place for it.........

 

Yet putting one on an S10 chassis is "traditional"

I was just wondering if anyone here had thought outside the box.

 

I never put anything on s10, so not sure what your gettin at. We all think outside the box here, your thinking outside the wrong box.

Not knocking what your trying to do,, I have done much worse, but this isnt the place for it.

 

But this is a place to find people that have done ALL kinds of things with the AD trucks. Most 4x4 forums don't even know what one is or what they look like.

edit-- And I wasn't speaking specifically to you about the s10 conversion, it has been discussed in depth on these boards as an "acceptable" modification

 

uh, never seen AD on a 78 4x4 chassis here. Not sure how to eaplain this any nicer, we dont do 4x4s here. nothing wrong with them, just not the place for them here.

Do you put lard on pancakes?

 

Mount cab so the front fenders are centered over the wheels.

Mount box so the rear fenders are centered over the wheels.

Add brakes and steering.

Go muddin'

 

LOL, Since you seem to be slow, let me explain it this way.

Not everyone that reads these boards is as narrow minded as you seem to be. People can and do have multiple interests in life. Just because they didn't post it on this particular board, doesn't mean that it has never been seen or done them or someone they know. And, they just might be willing to point me in a direction rather than rant about how "we don't do 4x4's". Just because you live in a small little sphere that doesn't include anything created after 1950 doesn't mean that the whole world shares your pain.

 

Thanks, that was kind of the idea I had in mind, I was primarily looking to see if anybody in this part of the world had ever seen it or done it. Most guys in the 4wd forums don't even know you can still buy parts for one of these.

Final thought on not being "traditional". Just think of it as a Napco clone.

 

Slow??

How does anything your doing pertain to TRADITIONAL RODS AND CUSTOMS?

THIS SMALL LITTLE SPHERE IS CALL THE HAMB, AND THERES A LOT MORE "SLOW" PEOPLE IN HERE.

This board has nothing to do with 4x4 frame swapping.

 

I didn't really tell you anything. I'm doing something similar to you. But only you can tell us if it will work.

Measure the wheelbase. Measure the track width. Measure it all. The frame shouldn't be much different than a 2x4. But my guess it, the full size chassis will be to short, to wide and uglier than than a bad game of Texas hold 'em. Put in on a 4x4 s-10 chassis and buy the bolt-on kit available for your truck.

You really can't ask off topic questions and expect worthy answers. I found out the hard way. Search the forum and see what other do with other swaps. Then decide how you are going to do it for yourself. If you can't look at things and figure it out, you might want to leave the truck alone.

SEARCH the message board, and google things. I got this link on here a while back.

Now go back to searching...and pick up some whiskey while your gone.

http://www.chuckschevytruckpages.com/framespecs.html

 

I have it pretty well figured. The width will match the current setup since I already have a fullsize front saddle under it. I was just curious. Apparently that's a crime. Lol.
The wheelbase is 10" different but that's cool. Anyways like I said I am just looking around to see if I can find anyone else that's done something similar. I did a search and came up with lots of 4x4 stuff on the HAMB just nothing specific to the AD trucks.

 

10" is a lot.I though I could squeeze by 4" and it looks like shit. But I guess, if your building a 4x4 it doesn't matter what it looks like.

What you need is a critter gitter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wiJoJqlrwM

 

LOL, that's hilarious. I guess I should clarify, the frame I'm going to end up with is 10" shorter than the original, so no stretching needed. I'll just cut 10" out of the bed length and be done with it.

 

Yes I said slow, as in slow to learn, impaired, can't quite grasp the concept. etc. etc.
You should do a search of the HAMB sometime, there are lots of 4x4 questions and answers going on. Personally I think there are probably quite a few rather intelligent people in here, you just don't happen to be one of them.

 

Really, why do you have to be insulting? did I call you names or say you were slow?

this isnt the place for this type of build, regardless of your opinion.

Nowhere in the rules or guidelines for this site does it say 4x4 frame swaps.

 

Again.

I'm not asking for the how. I know how. I was asking if anyone on this site had ever seen it done. I've seen it done well and I've seen it done poorly. I was looking for information. Since you don't have any, why did you respond? Did I miss somewhere that the only questions one could ask on the HAMB must be approved by you? You're telling me that the post I just read on a NAPCO truck is not about a 4x4? It was posted on this board, the guy was asking a question and asking for help from an accumulated wealth of knowledge that probably numbers in centuries, in regards to AD trucks. I asked a similar question, if you have nothing to contribute to the quest for information, then move on, read stuff that interests you, and let somebody that might have pertinent information for me post. That way, I will go away and not bother you anymore. If that's ok with you that is. Unless it states in the rules somewhere that I missed, that I can't just, not show up from time to time and ask a question.

p.s. The previous post on NAPCO was specifically about a 4x4 frame swap. Do a search, you might shock yourself.

 

I've seen those trucks on 4x4 chassis and they look good.
I've done some customs 4x4's .
if your worried about track width, the full size jeep cherokee is narrower than full size chev but same lug pattern and brackes etc.
No real need to swap whole frame. It's 4 leaf springs, you just need mounts for them .

 

napco's are cool, built on the original chassis and were very nice looking.

your doing a swap onto a chassis that 12" wider that the body.

but I'm slow, how does this pertain to the hamb?

Just so you know,,, here's some of my slowness,,


http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=193472

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=204616
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=144467
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=286434
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=296737
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=272362
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=278167
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=323536
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=248531
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=436237

and the latest,,,

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=435411

I think I can figure out how to put your pile of parts together, and you cant figure out why your ??? had nothing to do with the hamb? Who's the slow one?

 

Just based on the forums where I spend time 4x4 swaps don't seem to be popular these days except on the serious 4x4 boards.

That's not a value judgment just my own limited observation.

I think you'll find more interest in your project including at least one active member who has done a similar swap, over at the forums on Stovebolt.com. I assume you've tried Pirate4X4.com and not found what you wanted?

This forum is geared to a specific kind of dialog about a specific type of hot rod. Yes there are lots of people here with a wide variety of experience and knowledge, but the focus just isn't four-wheel-drive conversions and you'll have a tough time fitting in if that is what you want to talk about.

 

What kind of measuring device are you using to come up with 12"???????
Seeing how the front saddle from a '73-'87 2wd C10 pickup is only 1.5" wider than the original 1949 3100 frame, I'm kinda lost on how you figure 12"
My truck has already gone through a poor man's IFS. The stance is virtually the same as stock. There are several ways to do lots of things, and apparently you are mechanically inclined. You are however, what we used to call a hall monitor, one of those people that insists on pointing out others mistakes or wrongdoing.

Again, if you have nothing pertinent to add, but out.

 

this entire post is not pertinent to the hamb. Fuck Off

 

Just my .02

 

My, rather rude aren't we?

 

nope

speaking in short sentences with small words.

4x4 frame swap not hamb friendly.

If I were into 4x4s I still wouldnt post it here. It doesnt belong.

www.pirate4x4.com good place to start.

or maybe www.iwanttobuildanabortionandiamlookingforadvice.com

ok, maybe that was rude.....

 

I usually don't get involved but I thought I could help.