History Anyone heard of a 60s Mopar All Brass 440?

I say we all pitch in and build one and see what happens.

 

Chrysler TRIED to buy it back?
So he still has it?
Ask him to show it to you.......

 

Same guy bought a 63 Split window Vette for $200. Guy died and the widow had the car advertised as a 63 "Chevy" and well... you know the rest of the story.....

 

Yeah ,he gets around .I know another guy here local that told me he was the first guy in the world to break 200 Mph in the 1/4 in 1963 on accident of course.He said that because he was a nobody that someone else got the credit for it in the record books .He also told me that he had a 283 in a hoodless 55 once that had clear valve covers on it.He said that he would look out the window at the valve train through the tappet covers and turn 8500 rpm at the same time as he powershifted it...

 

You know i have heard that same story ,but it was the first 53 Vette ever built when the guy showed up about the old Chevy for sale for $200 ad...

 

Total BS! In any of these types of stories
as soon as the teller mentions the phrase
"the factory" (either) "tried to (or did) "buy
it back", it time to start putting your rubber
boots on and get the shovel out! In this
case, with this story, I'd recommend
hip-waders and a bulldozer and/or a
front end loader!!!


Mart3406
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One of those golf carts survived.

 

a guy toid me he rode in a 55 chevy that was so fast it blew the wiper back, they all did that because they were vacuum fed,

 

There's a reason automobile manufacturers employ people with degrees in metallurgy, so they can tell them ahead of time what would happen before they actually go to the expense of casting a br*** engine block.

 

Scotto you are so right. If you had added " a red '64 Chevelle Convertible" into your story you would have scored a perfect 10 on the old cliche meter
Thanks for the laugh!

 

Unfortunately, he can't because he junked it when it chewed up all the experimental aluminum gears in the trans and rear end.

 

What is it about Mopars that attracts stories like this.

One Mopar story, I've heard more than once, states that just before the plug was pulled on the Hemi's in the 70s Chrysler was developing a 440 based Hemi. And suposedly, even though the 440 Hemi never offically made it to production, the few that had been made ended up being randomly installed in cars inteded to have production 440s.

 

I have one of those experimental 440 Hemis in a 73 motor home ,no ****, lol...

 

Thats funny ...

 

I agree that that story is 99.999-fine BS
except possibly for the .001 % part about
clear valve covers. Back in the '70's there
was one aftermarket company ( Moroso
maybe??) that made clear plexigl*** or
lexan. valve covers for small block
Chevies. But anybody stupid enough to
tell the rest of that BS story wouldn't
have had either the smarts or the
money to buy or use them!

Mart3406

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P.S I'll bet that 283 with the clear valve covers
in his 55 Chevy, was the same 283 that came
out of out his 200 'mph in quarter' 63 Vette
too! You, know, the only '63 Corvette ever built
with a factory installed 283, - 'that GM tried to
buy back' because it accidentally left the factory
with the experimental, top-secret 'Fish-designed'
Rochester 2-bbl carb that got 200 mile-per-gallon
while also making 950 hp at 9500 rpm......while
burning straight kerosene! no less! I think too,
he may actually been the second owner of that
magical Vette, buying it for $200, after the
original owner died in it and no one could get
the smell out. That might explain why he
eventually had to pull the engine and pit it
into his 55.!!!

 

I need to change from my boot to my waiters its so deep. you can paut a after market stage 6 hemi head on a 440 mosher used to build some of those. After a couple of bottles of wiskey maybe the engine does look like its br***. sounds like *** to me. want to my property 15 miles west of malibu for 10k

 

Damn funny thread. Maybe the old fellow was a bit confused and meant to say aluminum, but even still if such an engine was even made in the first place, the odds of it being in a production car? I 'm thinking B.S. ,but at least now you can say you have done your monthly good deed for humoring the guy.

 

Mart3406 ,i knew they had clear valve covers for small block chevys at one time .The guy did actually have them on his 55 as well (according to a reliable source that knew him in the 60's).The part that got me was when he told me he was able to powershift the 283 at 8500 and look out the window at the valve train moving through the clear valve cover at the same time.This was after he told me about getting it on the rear bumper for so long to scare someone once ,that when he stopped it was literally ground off.All that was left was some nubs of bumper brackets...

 

I had to much to drink i cant spell tonight im going to walk my50 year old dog now

 

Br*** isn't exactly light, nor has it ever been that cheap, so I'm not sure what the point would be to even try to cast something like that up, even if it would hold up for use in an engine block. Aluminum and the story would make some sense, but even then it smacks of a ******** story. Chrysler tried to buy it back? Well if they'll give you another car and cash to boot WTF not sell it back?? Sheesh.

However I would believe something got out the door at Chrysler that wasn't supposed to, there's a story elsewhere on this board about a guy who had brake issues with like a '73 Duster that was brand new - that when finally looked at with both front wheels off was found to have been built with a disc brake on one side and a drum on the other. I'm not sure both sides were even the same bolt pattern.

Oh, and where do I get one of those BS-ometers? Stewart Warner? I need one for a fuel gauge on a vehicle that runs on bio-diesel.

 

Automobile manufacturers do mess up on their production lines. I know of a mid sixties two door Chevy hardtop that was delivered with a 4-door sedan non folding seat back bench seat.
The buyer brought it back because his mother in law had such a hard time getting in and out of the back seat.
For visuals just think of "its a mad, mad, mad world"

 

polishing br*** on a ship is bad luck!

 

Wow now THAT sounds like a BS HEMI story!!! oh wait are you talking about the Ball stud hemi affectionately referred to as the "BS Hemi". If so then YES there IS truth to THAT one!!!!!! They made a handful of them - they are still in existence!!!!

 

My old boss told me that when he was in high school, his best friend had had a dodge roadrunner with a 440 hemi. I just went along with it and asked if it was fast.

 

I just got back from walking my 50 year old dog he **** a br*** hemi. Who said you cant polish a turd

 

Bit like the guy who bought the survivor 32 roadster in LA out of the craiglist for $1K then sold it for $80K.... Oh actually that did happen.

PS And good on ya too.

 

[QUOTE
Originally Posted by BlueGhost


What is it about Mopars that attracts
stories like this.One Mopar story, I've
heard more than once, states that just
before the plug was pulled on the Hemi's
in the 70s Chrysler was developing a 440
based Hemi. And suposedly, even though
the 440 Hemi never offically made it to
production, the few that had been made
ended up being randomly installed in cars
inteded to have production 440

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That story is partially true. The true part is the actual engine. That was the A278 - also known as the 'Ball Stud Hemi' It was based on a 440 block and was intended as a 'cheaper to build' and more 'emissions-friendly' "semi-hemi" replacement the 426 Hemi being proposed for the '72 model year. The BS part of the story is that some of these 'test' engines' got randomly installed in production cars and released to the public. Total BS. One or two prototype engines have survived but Chrysler only ever installed one A279 in an actual car - in an engineering test mule and that was never released to the public, either accidentally or on purpose.
(Oh.....except for the ones with infamous br*** blocks that started this whole ridiculous thread.....but *everyone knows* that the 'br*** block' engines were all '427 6-pack hemis' - secretly destroked to 383s because the the br*** blocks made them too powerful - and came out a bit later, in the 1973 Superbird convertibles and station wagons and in a few special '74 and '75 NASCAR Imperials!<lol>: )

mart3406
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I am actually guilty of starting one rumor that may still be talked about in parts of northern Texas.. Was stationed in Wichita Falls in the Air Force in the mid 70s and bought a 66 GTO with a blown engine for 200 bucks. Dropped in a 66 Vette 425 HP 427 using stock BB Chevelle motor mounts, exhaust manifolds, air cleaner, etc. and put 427 crossed flag emblems on the front fenders. Used to tell everyone it was a "Canadian" GTO and that there was a strike at GM and they ran out of Pontiac engines so the built a few with 427 Chevy engines... Most people bought the story since it was all done with bolt on factory parts. That thing was also one of the fastest cars I ever owned.