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Projects 50 Chevy 3-Speed Trans Questions??

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by dimebag, Mar 12, 2010.

  1. dimebag
    Joined: May 16, 2009
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    dimebag
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    from Joliet, il

    Hi Guys, I've got another question for all....I am just about to start the 216 to 235 swap on my 50 Chevy, and plan on using the original 3 on the tree set-up. But I have a couple of questions, the rear of the trans leaks (quite a bit) Patricks told me that this is a simple bronze sleeve that can be replaced-is it really that easy?? Also does this trans have synchros?? I have noticed that going into first, if the car is not at a complete stop or if the RPM's are too high, the trans wil grind. Is this normal???? I would like to know if this is something that should be re-built or if it is normal considering that this is a 60 year old trans?? I love my car and have lofty plans for it, but like everybody else I need to get the mechanicals right before I start on the "pretty" work. Also if the trans is going to the dogs does anybody have a good lead on one or is it a simple rebuild that most any trans shop can complete with relative ease?? I would hate to put a questionable trans back in the car with a new motor, PG rear and torque tube-just to have to rip it back out in a couple of months. As always any and all help is greatly appreciated!!!!
     
  2. 59bug
    Joined: Jan 11, 2010
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    from missouri

    I also have a 1950 chevy. Not sure about the leakage but my trans never grinds except for first gear because it is not synchronized. Maybe if your trans is growling in 2 and 3 then you may just need to adjust your clutch because those old transmissions are indestructable most times.
     
  3. 59bug
    Joined: Jan 11, 2010
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    from missouri

    If you ever have to take out your trans then it is pretty simple. I just took mine out to install a new clutch , flywheel etc. There is a plate inside the car right over the transmission. when she is all unbolted it comes out throught the floor. pretty wild.
     
  4. roddinron
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    Low gear is non synchro. Learn to double clutch, or wait till you're stopped to put it into 1st.
     
  5. JohnEvans
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    Or at a stop in neutral put into 2nd-3rd before selecting 1st.
     
  6. dimebag
    Joined: May 16, 2009
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    dimebag
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    from Joliet, il

    2-3 works perfect, it's just when going into first gear while moving. I guess I need to learn the art of double clutching...any good advice?? Also anybody ever take out the rear most seal on the trans, it's coming out with the motor so it's the best time to do any and all repairs. Thanks again!!
     
  7. Unless im at a complete stop, i grind going into 1st..... Just how it is.
    Not sure about your seal.
     
  8. Hank
    Joined: Feb 18, 2005
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    Hank
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    from Wisconsin

    First and reverse are non synchro. AT a stop, put it in 2nd then shift to 1st. You'll need to learn to double clutch and match engine rpm to be able to down shift into 1st.
     
  9. Lone Star Mopar
    Joined: Nov 2, 2005
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    This is correct upshift real quick then right down into first and you will get no "wild grind".
     
  10. Hellfish
    Joined: Jun 19, 2002
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    There should be a paper seal where the torque tube coupling/bell meets the trans. Yours could be bad and or the bolts aren't torqued to spec. Patrick's would know more than me though. Have you looked at your shop manual? It should have and exploded view of the trans where you can see the sleeve Patrick's was referring to as well as how to replace it. If you don't have a shop manual, cough up the $20. You'll be glad you did. You MIGHT find some info in one of the online manuals at tocmp.com... but nothing beats a copy in your hands.
     
  11. The_Monster
    Joined: Sep 8, 2003
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    The bronze seal on the yoke can be tapped into place.
     
  12. johnny bondo
    Joined: Aug 20, 2005
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    from illinois

    also if you push the clutch in soon enough to let the idle go way down before you make a quick stop, you should be able to shift. i clutch down hills too, unless i want the engine to slow me a little(engine brake).
     
  13. George Miller
    Joined: Dec 26, 2008
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    George Miller
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    from NC usa

    I would go a head and replace the bronze bushing. If it is bad it will vibrate when you let off the gas, which will cause the U joint bolts to come loose. As far as a leak make sure you get all the gaskets right at the U joint housing. Also make sure your U joint bolts are tight, can't tell you how many times I found loose ones back in the day.
     

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