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what is a willys gasser really worth?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by cruizznn, Mar 23, 2010.

  1. cruizznn
    Joined: Feb 18, 2009
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    from ohio

    Hi Fellas..I am resubmitting a post I made asking what you guys would think the value of a 37-41 willys gasser coupe would be worth. Not talking fancy cars, maybe something on the order of a 5-7 on a scale of 10.. a driver type. All steel, or steel and glass. I know a lot depends on the condition and what comes with it. So many of these willys nowadays are being sold as a project or basket case. What kind of coin would you think a together driving vehicle should bring on that scale? How much do you think any kind of history should add to the value compared to a put together race on the weekends type of car? I know it is very hard to generalize on this without having a certain car to talk about. It just seems so many of these at auction or for sale are well up there in the asking prices making them out of reach of the average joe. Compared to other cars these sure seem to command a higher asking price. Just curious your thoughts on this..thanks
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  2. davidwilson
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    you will not find a cheap willys or anglia - in any condition
     
  3. retromotors
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  4. I'd say....
    An all steel Willys Gasser,period correct car=$80-100k
    Same car,but was an actual racecar in the 50's or 60's(Stone/Woods/Cook or KS Pittman,Mazmanian)=$50-100k more. Just my opinion. KiwiKev could answer with a more accurate guess,I'm sure.
     
  5. wtf!!!!
     
  6. skullhat
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    a nice willys is worth over a hundred large out here


    id guess that a semi beater that you could drive with the right hardware at least 70k. a good car with history, who knows maybe alot more.

    if i saw another one for cheap, i know i'd scoop it up, and i'm sure there are many others that would do the same

    skull
     
  7. skullhat
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    he's willing to trade his daughters and goats, lol
     
  8. Am interested in the goats, you may keep the dotter.
     
  9. 1320/150
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    I'll take the dotter!!
     
  10. All steel Willys bodies are very rare and that fact is reflected in their price. Willys ceased production of cars at the beginning of WWII and never resumed it. There never were a lot of Willys dealerships and none at all in large parts of the country. By the 1950s replacement parts were scarce and most Willys that broke down just weren't repaired. They had been inexpensive cars to begin with so people just gave up on them. If you can find a '39-42 Willys couple in poor condition for $20K you're doing about average IMHO. (I'm defining poor as meaning that for another $10K you can get it in good condition.) As far as a Willys Gasser is concerned I'd suggest that you go to Gasser gatherings or their websites to get a realistic idea on the prices. FYI, there is at least one excellent Willys parts vendor on the HAMB.
     
  11. Rudy J
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    Originally Posted by retromotors [​IMG]

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    Alzo geeve you my dotter kneefa. She very niize gurl, very observant, very niize to her man.
    Let me know.

    _________________________________________________________

    Is that dotter riding in the sidecar of your avatar?
     
  12. Hot Rod Willys
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    You know, I have been into these 37 to 42 Willys Coupes for some time now and I don't remember the last time a real car with real history sold and what it would have been worth. One thing for sure is a car is worth what the seller and the buyer agree on regardless what the rest of the world thinks. You cant group sedans, trucks or glass cars in the mix. The only two real history coupes that sold I can think of were both chopped tops, Shinholster and the Challenger and both had fiberglass body parts as most old race cars do. To me a chopped 37 to 42 coupe is an ugly car. Both of those sold for around 35 grand. The Mazmanian coupe was a all steel clone so you cant count that one in. I have seen rough to good steel cars selling lately in this bad economy for around 35 to 50 grand and most were not all steel. I own a real nice all steel coupe that was a gasser from the 60's and to me its worth a bunch but there is just not enough real steel cars for sale to say that they go for x number of dollars. And speaking of Willys coupe values why is it that when the market was strong a couple years ago glass cars were bringing as much as a steel car? That would never happen in the AC Cobra or 32 Ford world! Last thing I want to say is that Willys were cheap cars and a lot of them that are around today are rough and rustyand all patched up, so the price is all about condition of that specific car. If you had a mint rust free all steel car with original factory born sheet metal and trim missing nothing then its worth 6 figures to me.........my .02
     
  13. Hot Rod Willys
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    I sure would like to know who that Willys vendor is!
     
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  14. ags41dave
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    Cruizznn;While at an Ohio meet,I was asked if i would consider an offer of 140,as was my friend at a goodguys meet for his all steel 40 from someone.I have all the history with mine and it scares me to hear this for fear I might say ok at some time I would suggest that if you really want a willys gasser and you are not very tall you look for a truck they are much less money and still look cool,make sure you sit in one first a 33 truck believe it or not actually has more leg room then a 40.If that dosen't work a 40 sedan in 2 door or weld the back doors on a more door can look really good,if you must have a coupe consider a glass one especially if you wish to race I have seen some really nice ones for 20-30 that i wish i could have sprung for. Steel coupe prices are all over the place but if you look long enough you could get into one possibly 40-60 i see them once in awile good luck,Dave
     
  15. 296 V8
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    Metalshapes
    Move this to the Hokey Asspraisal page, Oh there isn’t one. :rolleyes:
     
  16. falconsprint63
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    I picked up a 41 coupe with a 440/727 combo, gasser build for 10K a couple of years back. It was built from the body of a wrecked show car that was repaired. We traded it around for car and cash combos to come out, but expected it to sell outright in the 15-17 range. I'd have put it in the 5 range.



     
  17. falconsprint63
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    for got to mention we also purchased Bad Company II from Sonny Chapman maybe 10 years back (chopped steel 40 coupe built the early 90's, patterned after his early 70's car Bad Company) for 10K and moved it on in less than a weeek for 15.

    Good friend picked up a nice solid coupe (steel) project--history unknown for 10K and is driving the piss out of it today.

    My dad's 40 coupe (steel) 41 reported to be the last car Stone Woods and Cook were working on, but never raced was eventually traded for a 35 ford roadster.

    I guess what I"m getting at is what it's worth is what someone will pay for it or what someone's willing to take for it. My dad's coupe was advertised in the 70 range and he traded for what I consider to be a 35-40 k car--but I think he got the better end of the deal because the 35 was what he wanted and suites him better. the willys BTW was the only car my mother ever condoned buying--when he looked at it she comment "you ARE buying that aren't you."
     
  18. Hot Rod Willys
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    falconsprint63 the prices you are quoting are more than ten years ago!
     
  19. cruizznn
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    This is sort of what I was getting at also..

    http://reno.craigslist.org/cto/1653801256.html

    Dave you are right, the prices are everywhere on these things
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  20. bobwop
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  21. Hnstray
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    Last Fall I sold an 'almost' all steel '37 Willys Coupe from my late brother's estate. It was a 'roller' on a stock frame but no running gear other than the stock axles. The front sheet metal was '40 model, the deck lid was fiberglass. No current rust issues, the floor had been replaced with a very good original floor some time in it's past.

    It was advertised on E-bay for at least two periods of 10 days each, lots of inquiries, but in the end, only one serious buyer. We were seeking 30k......ended up taking low 20's.

    Also had a '37 moredoor with fiberglass '41 front end and fiberglass deck. Solid floors, some rust in door bottoms, also a roller, no eng/trans. Advertised in the same manner.......only brought about 15% of what the coupe brought. Things are worth what you can get for them.

    Ray
     
  22. Hot Rod Willys
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    Nobody else has anything to ad to this thread? I would like to hear some more storys.
     
  23. The worth will be determined by two things;

    1) if I'm buying it

    2) if I'm selling it

    If I'm buying it, it's only worth $1

    If I'm selling it, it's worth $1,000,000

    :D :cool: :D :cool:
     
  24. ronnie tidwell
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    a few on racing junk.come, 1 under drag cars, nostalga, yesterday posted, less motor trans for 12k,
     
  25. The street rod types are getting a second mortgage and writting a check for about 150,000 to 200,000 K from the Foose types out there.

     
  26. paintcan54
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    My look on this is, it's only worth what you are willing to pay! but my be worth a lot more to who is selling it. That being said I have seen them bring from 5 grand to 15 grand it all comes down to how bad you want it, and how much do you want to spend.
     
  27. Larry T
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    I think they have to get there finances somewhere else now days, at least most of the Harley guys are.
    And to keep on topic, I saw a nice fiberglass, blown bigblock car sell for a little less than $50,000.00 about a year ago.
    Larry T
     
  28. 333 Half Evil
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    I think I'm coming to the conclusion of, I'm never going to be able to afford a steel one. I've always said I'd never build a glass bodies willys coupe...steel shell at the very least...guess I just won't build one then!!! Guys who are claiming to see them sell for 5-15 grand are nuts. Those would have to be glass or totally shot. I've been watching/searching for one for 15 years...and the days of an all steel willys going for under $20,000. are gone. If someone knows of a nice steel 37-42 willys coupe for sale 15 grand or less, PROVE IT. PM me with the info...if it is real I'll buy it and appologise for calling out bullshit!!!
     
  29. Steves32
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    I think it was last year or year before at LARS in swap area- there was a 41 roller- no engine or trans in very rough condition, claimed to be ex gasser & he was asking 55k.

    They are getting prices similar to 32 3 window coupes. Stupid money.
     
  30. 333 Half Evil
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    Just checked...IT'S FIBREGLASS.

    There is one real steel C/Gas willys on racingjunk...$95,000.
     

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