What would you do with this buyer?

>>>>>,That 50% duty only applies to stuff shipped from the U.S. ,,the Government in Norway is still pissed at the U.S. for what we did in WW II ,,Norway was a Neutral Country ,,German and U.S. ships could go to Oslo and refuel and get food ,,plus stock up on amunitions,,,one nite ,,we snuck a Sub into that bay and sunk a German Battleship,,,it still sits there on the bottom ,,the entire crew died ,,

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UETFbzTXdiU this video may be the reason why he wants those gun compartments.

 

I agree with Bobwop .
Just relax . Confidence and respect will get you through it best.

I have a good, older freind, who's daily driver is a 32 Chrysler 3window, with a compartment for his .357 revolver and his Holy Bible !
Are we scared yet?

 

My banker wife says that a wire transfer = as good as cash. You got his cash and you still have the truck.

But something stinks if he wants more, the original deal could be bait for a scam. I'd offer to honor the original deal or cancel it and wire his $$ back to him.

Bob

 

>>>>>,That 50% duty only applies to stuff shipped from the U.S. ,,the Government in Norway is still pissed at the U.S. for what we did in WW II ,,Norway was a Neutral Country ,,German and U.S. ships could go to Oslo and refuel and get food ,,plus stock up on amunitions,,,one nite ,,we snuck a Sub into that bay and sunk a German Battleship,,,it still sits there on the bottom ,,the entire crew died ,,

Sweden was neutral. Norway was occupied by the Nazis from 09.april 1940 to 08.may 1945. Norwegian citizens and Government really like everything Made in USA except Budweiser which really tastes like water with a dash of beer in it...

Muroc Speed Shop is a serious guy. Maybe he can help with this case? Many Norwegians pay to have cars fixed and rebuild before shipping.

 

I was totally unaware of this. Please tell me which States they are.

I ALWAYS find a "secret" place in my vehicles to carry large sums of cash. You would be surprised the places you can find in a late model vehicle that were built right at the factory.

Maybe not designed to hold guns, but they work for me!

Please tell us which States have laws that call it a FELONY to have a secret compartment in a vehicle.

 

I agree with bobss396 keep to the original deal or send the money back. Something isn't right with this .My usual thing is if you are questioning it and your gut is telling you there is something wrong , it usually is!!! Rob.

 

I agree with both here,remember its not always easy for folks over seas to get the parts they need,sometimes easyier to have work done here before auto is sent to its new home.
Ive done it more than once.....boosts profits and gets what the customer what he wants
Every one of mine has had return buisness because they establish a trust
Time differences can slow comunucations,I wouldnt worry yet

Tony

 

lol, I would do it exactly the opposite, there are plenty of fake travelers checks. I've done multiple account transfers with no problem whatsoever.

if two people know it's there is it a secret?

 

Take all the money out of the account and close it down !!!!
I would also get some legal advice on what to do . Also keep ALL the emails you got from him for the evidence that you did sell the truck to him then he wanted you to do all this work and haven't heard from him again .
Just be careful and get the legal advice first before doing anything ! Also put the truck somewhere so it can't be taken when you are not around !

Retro Jim

 

The guy is clearly insane, or playing a dirty prank on you. I mean, traditional 50's flames and Convo-Pros? Blech.

 

>>>>>Norway49Merc; I stand corrected ,,thanks
Does Muroc Speed Shop still have his '40/'41 Willys Coupe ??that Yellow '70 'Vette he bought from me was for his Wife ,,he said ,,

 

GA for one. It's a felony punishable by 1-2 years in prison and a $10,000 fine. And in GA, it's not the just the owner of the vehicle with the secret compartment that's liable, but the secret compartment builder/installer as well. There are other states too, just not sure which ones. Probably FL and TX due to the amount of drug smuggling, but like I said, that's just a guess, I'm not sure.

 

Unreal how many paranoid people on this thread.
Wire transfer to your account is fine, and no way can the sender or anyone else get it back out. See post #12.

I guess none of the fraidy-cats ever give a check to anyone -- since your checks have your bank routing number and your account number printed right on them !!

Matter of fact, I know a fellow who sells small value items to people overseas -- to small for a wire transfer -- so he gives his Bank of America account numbers to them by email and tells them to go to their local (foreign) BofA and make a deposit to that account.

Oh, you think the foreigner could make a withdrawal from that account? Ha ha. No way.

 

As to the original question of how much time, you need more communication. Did you really do a big deal like this with no phone number or actual voice contact? I would never do a multi thousand dollar vehicle deal without some sort of phone contact. It sets both parties of the deal more at ease. A bonus is if something's not quite right, you can CALL and find out what's going on.

Like everybody else said, shipping parts to certain countries is super expensive for the buyers with levees and taxes and duties. You can't think the guy is crazy for wanting them installed beforehand or sent with the vehicle as "part of the vehicle". It could be saving him THOUSANDS.

This guy was nice enough to buy your truck, give him some time. It's not likely he'll just "abandon" it. You probably couldn't sell it locally or you wouldn't have gone to all the trouble of dealing internationally. I know, I've done the same thing to The Netherlands. All the replies suggesting to sell it again or charge the guy more money are laughable. Work with the guy like you'd want to be worked with.

 

>>>>>Norway49Merc; I stand corrected ,,thanks
Does Muroc Speed Shop still have his '40/'41 Willys Coupe ??that Yellow '70 'Vette he bought from me was for his Wife ,,he said ,,

Check Muroc's pages.

He still have two Willys, I think. One of my other friends bought one Willys from him a few years back.

He had a 33 or 34 Ford coupe last summer. He enjoys buying/ selling. Ha ha...

Corvette sold in 2004. And if he said he bought it for his wife, that was true. He aint lying.

http://www.murocspeedshop.no/

(Why are so many Americans negative about the subject in this thread? Norwegians work hard at Oilplatforms and at Fishingboats many months each time. They have more money than iq, and sometimes make jokes that people with the nose in the sky dont understand...)

 

Whether a compartment is a secret compartment depends on the use or purpose of the compartment.
It's OK to have a compartment to hide your money in.
See
http://gacriminallawblog.com/category/statutory-updates/

 

I hear you. But no way do I have the money, time, or stamina to battle the purpose in court against the state with unlimited funds and time. Why take a chance? I keeps my money in my pocket. And a .38 in the other pocket. That's way better protection than a secret compartment anyway.

 

I would tell him he needs to pick up his truck! Once a buyer buys somthing from me it belongs to them. It blows my mind to hear how some people think after they have been paid they still own the vehicle or item. My 2 cents

 

Like Golda Meir once said about pros***ution;

"Vat a bidness............ya got it, ya sell it, ya still got it!"

 

hey Art guy...I see you are currently viewing, maybe something already said will help you. Don't sell overseas. Sorry overseas hambers. Face to face COD.

 

thanks for the heads up, Terd. I had never heard of such a thing.

the lawmakers in Georgia, and perhaps other States, must be a paranoid as some of the guys on here!!!

 

X2 This does not p*** the smell test...by a long ways!

 

I think what everyone is missing here is that the BUYER of the truck wanted the SELLER to build a compartment and then PURCHASE two hand guns and SHIP them WITH THE TRUCK. sounds like trouble to me....

I've been offered substantial amounts of money to do the same thing on a continuous basis for vehicles being shipped into the Netherlands. Needless to say I didn't call them back....

 

When shipping a car or truck outa the U.S. ,it has to go thru Customs ,,not only to be sure it's not stolen,, but they search it from top to bottom ,,no way you'd get away with anything in a secret compartment ,,Customs are experts at finding illeagle stuff ,,
BUT,,,back on the original question ,,he wants some work done to it ,,and you shot him a price of $25K to get started ,,are you capable of doing the work ??? then be patient ,,,if he wires you the money ,,,do it and make a few bucks ,,did he pay you to ship it to Customs too ???
check with a Lawyer ,,but i think he owns the truck ,,spend the money and be happy ,,do NOT send it back ,,the truck is his ,,store it in a secure location ,,if he doesn't respond in a few more weeks ,,send him the storage bill
one more thing; when you ship it to Customs ,,,the ***le and a Noterized Bill Of Sale with the purchase price Must go with it ,,

 

Give the guy time and keep trying to contact him. I understand about the parts he wants. I live overseas and it kills me to send gaskets over let alone a big block.

 

Crazy thread... You have the truck paid for, and you have the truck.

Give the guy a clear communication stating that the truck needs to be picked up by a certain time and that storage fees apply afterwards. Make the fees clear on a per day basis.

Probably the first mistake was telling him to send more money on agreement to do work on the truck...

Good luck. Will look forward to seeing how this ends.

 

>>>>>,'Nuther thing ,,if he arranges & pays for the shipping ,,you gotta give it time ,,it took Reliable Auto Shippers THREE WEEKS after they were paid by the buyer ,to fit my 'Vette into their shipping schedule ,,they also had to request a Customs appointment ,,New York was booked for many months ,,Chicago was the only Customs outfit that would fit it in ,,remember ,,thousands of cars / trucks & stuff is shipped outa this country every month ,,

 

In Illinois it is definitely a felony to have a secret compartment.

There was even a political ad a few years back where a female Illinois politician was bragging about pushing through the Big Brother secret compartment law to "protect" people.
"Re-elect me, and I will do even more.."

Remember Illinois is a solidly blue state where the Governors go to jail and make license plates, and lesser politicians get sent to Washington.

Illinois is also sending letters, and sending payment demands to people who buy parts cars and threaten them with all sorts of trouble if they do not pay huge taxes based on show car auction prices for their rusty parts cars.
Search this forum for the threads on those.
Big Brother is everywhere, and people keep voting for even more....

As for the transaction- There are stings and lures going on all the time where secret cops ask citizens to do illegal things, then people get busted for getting bullied into doing it.
It happens many times each day. One of the more famous was the Delorean case, but so much more stays under the news "radar" and never gets publicity.

Don't ever fall for any proposition that asks you do do anything "under the table". There is big business in confi****ing other people's belongings for any reason that can be imagined. Both crooks AND law enforcement are always trying to create opportunities for themselves. They are so much alike it is very hard to tell which is which.

I would say to do whatever you can reasonably do to honor the first agreement you had when you are sure the payment cannot be taken back.

If he does get you to buy wheels for him or whatever, ***uming you wish to do so, make sure the next payment he makes is equally secure, and the work order is do***ented for the future.
It is all too easy to get a seller to accept a less secure form of payment as a second payment. Even if his first payment ends up being good, there still is a possibility of his getting everything for "half price" if payment number two doesn't work out.

 

>>>>>,that's why i live in Missouri ,,not Illinois,or Iowa ,,nor California ,,only other places more lax is Nevada ,Alaska and Arkansas ,,,i think ,,maybe others too ,,if Big Brother comes to Missouri to take away our Guns,,Hot Rods ,,Parts Cars Etc ,,they're in for a big fight ,,our State Government is on our side ,,