I have a set of whitewalls on my piecrust slicks that are turning brown/tan! Does anyone have a good fix? They offered to fix them, but I would have to dismount them and ship them back, plus mount them again. That is quite a bit of money. Or they would send me 40.00, thats not worth the trouble of turning the around!! Clyde
some Wesley's Bleche-White won't take care of it? It probably depends on why they're turning brown, if it's a manufacturing issue, or just something getting on the tires, dirt, mold, whatever. Won't the tire manufacturer tell you what they do to "fix" this? I suppose if it came down to it, you could just paint them white again, but that's kind of a cheesy way to fix it. Also, somewhere in here there's a line about them being shitty tires...
They said try bleach. That didn't work either!! "Also, somewhere in here there's a line about them being shitty tires..." Thats what I was thinking!
castrol super clean..(purple bottle)...or brake cleaner..but the brake cleaner will remove some of the white..dont use it alot..just for tough stains
The brown is from the adhesive/chemicals leaching through the tire - it will always come back. Sorry but that's the way it is.
Well I'm glad someone brought this up I have Coker Bias Plys bought in December three of the tires are bright and one is turning brown on the outter perimiter of the whitewall so far the place i bought them at has let me return it twice I'm now on my third tire and its starting with maybe 80 miles on it. I tried switching sides meaning first it occurred on drivers side and now on the passenger side I'm stumpped its just the one tire and three new returns are doing it! WTF!!! I'll try the sos and brake clean but its a brand new tire, damm it Jim Also I understand about the natural leaching but only one tire and its way too soon
I use Autoglym Engine cleaner...and wipe off seems to work ok, it was a tip passed to me by someone who has used it for 15+ years or so ......... '' Autoglym Engine & Machine Cleaner is a powerful, non-corrosive cleaner for engines, components, wheels and machinery. Simply spray on, brush and hose off to rapidly dissolve oil, grease, grime and traffic film from all surfaces. It works as a combined detergent and degreaser. Harmless in contact with plastics, rubber, paintwork and metal, it cleans the complete engine bay quickly and safely. Autoglym Engine & Machine Cleaner is solvent free, water based and bio-degradable. Also use to clean anodised, non original or specially plated wheel finishes.'' . .
My Cheater slix are turning brown on the outer perimeter and they've seen......ZERO miles. Just mounted. Not impressed really.... Rat
I have the Firestones from Coker and I clean mine with a stiff scrub brush, Super Clean and soapy water. They're 2 1/2 years old and as still white as the driven snow. I have also used SOS pads with soap on some of my other white walls, just no need to on these yet, the Westley's works well too. This is when they were first mounted; This is them today; I remounted them on different wheels and a different car, they have right around 1000 miles on them. Good luck
I've always had good luck with S.O.S. pads, the blue ones with the soap already in them. It sounds too rough but the soap actually keeps the pad from scratching. It works good for chrome too.
We have a super strong cleaner and degreaser product that would likely work for cleaning white walls called Crud Release. I haven't tried them on my Firestone bias ply wide whites yet but I'd think it'd work great.
I use Alconox. By far the best to clean anything. http://www.alconox.com/static/section_top/gen_catalog.asp I know that Armor-all was the best thing for turning whites brown.
I use the Westley's with good results. You can see the brown dissolving when the spray hits the tire, then scrub them and rinse off.
. . . gotcha. He said they were retreads, I wonder what core they started as. I'm not doubting you at all (I don't even know what a plasticizer is ), just trying to learn, what would be leaking out from behind the whitewall if the whitewall was already existing prior to them re-treading the tire.
I have used this product for years,,first on blackwalls and then found out how well it works on whitewalls. Spray on dry and let it soak,,use a stiff bristle brush with very little effort and hose off,,,works great for me. HRP
Another thought,,many years ago a friend who was employed with a large tire manufacturing plant commented on how my blackwalls had a brownish tint and no matter how many times I washed them it kept coming back. He explained that if I wanted to get them clean and keep them rhat way,,,get some Naptha and wipe them down,,,It solved the problem. HRP
Chances are, even though the tires are recaps, they've had the whitewall vulcanized over the black wall case. This is and has been a very common problem on white walls vulcaniced onto a black wall tire. If the tire was made AS a white wall, or had a RWL shaved to make the white wall, then no problem. The problem seems to be with the white rubber compound that's vulcanized to the tire. I believe Diamondback adds a Butyl rubber compound to the black wall case before they add/vulcanize THEIR white walls. This supossedly eliminates the problem, although I have NO idea if this is true or not...
Yes, this is the blackwall tire leaching through the whitewall. it is coming from within, and will not clean off. Diamondback uses a butyl layer under their white rubber to prevent this. I have heard many stories of cokers turning brown, the ones I had did this. My diamondbacks still look great, I don't even clean them as frequently as I should. I drive the piss out of them..... http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=RaeeNhbWsuc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zEhDLhWaAA&feature=channel I have one that is splitting in a small section of the whitewall. I called Bill, new one will be here next week. They have GREAT customer service. This is why I have bought 5 sets for my self , my friends and clients.
I had a set of wide whitewall cut into a set of tires years ago. Two of the tires were brand new Firestones and the other two were another brand that I had bought a year or two earlier. The older tires cut and "whitewalled" great and lasted at least until I sold the car a few years later. The newer tires leached the brown stuff and never would clean up. The tire guy had never seen it happen to his cut whitewalls before...he redid the tires twice...
OL'CHEVY - That string of photos of Diamondback making their white walls http://picasaweb.google.com/rpettycustommurals/DiamondbackTour did it for me...PERIOD! I've been searching for the "Right" tires for months, and I can't afford to piss close to a Grand away on substandard white walls...NOT meaning to Hi-Jack the thread...
Trust me....they are THE tire to drive on. Even BloodyKnuckles admitted that they drove great on his wife's DeSoto.....radials!
If the tires were ever stacked with the black side of one on top of the white side of another this will cause them to brown, and the brown will never come out.