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TECH: Make a Bellhousing out of an old Intake Manifold!!

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by loudpedal, Apr 11, 2010.

  1. loudpedal
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    In my opinion, heat treating the parts I'm doing is overkill. It wouldn't hurt to do it, but I choose not to. I stay away from the cheap aluminum. Basicly I choose cast aluminum for my scrap. I get the best results from American intake manifolds. I don't use extruded aluminum at all. That stuff gives poor results. I've never had anything crack or break...
     
  2. loudpedal
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    Yes, there is always shrinkage. It's about an 1/8" per foot for aluminum. You just build that into your patterns.
     
  3. 1950ChevySuburban
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    This is very much appreciated! Thanks so much. I did foundry in high school, always wanted to re-visit this part of the hobby. Very inspiring, well written post!
     
  4. Django
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    that rules Kris.
     
  5. NoSurf
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    Very very cool Kris.

    Thanks for taking the time to put the thread together.

    I feel very unworthy.
     
  6. roddinron
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    Great thread! Thanks.
     
  7. budd
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    great tech, so i'm looking for one of those v-drives for a dragster project, heres a picture of the engine taken back in 1962, do you make the drives to sell? i vote you win.
     

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  8. deucegasser
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    Excellent information,thank you.
     
  9. Great Tech Kris, very enlightening, even if I never do it. Thanks for taking the time to post.
     
  10. Flat Ernie
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    x 2
     
  12. freakboy
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    i have a question do you have a way to cast manifolds? i can see that being difficult/imposible because the shape of them and the holow insides.
     
  13. That is all about how complicated you can make your pattern and design in core pieces that the aluminum can flow around - take a look at the mold for his mag drive - it has a simple core in the middle of it to reduce the amount of machining he needs to do.

    I've always wanted to build a furnace and pour some aluminum parts for my projects. I've looked into it two or three times in the last couple of years, I just have never made that step. I do get to see this stuff on a regular basis - I'm an engineer that works at an automation company that works primarily in foundries.
     
  14. captainjunk#2
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    if you dont want to mix your own casting sand there are places on line you can buy sand and small crucibles ,
     
  15. loudpedal
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    Funny you should ask. My Dad and I were talking about doing some Flathead cylinder heads last night. All we need is some time to devote to the project...

    Oil bonded sand has been mentioned. If you are going to do a bunch of casting, it's well worth the investment, because it's much less maintenance than clay bonded sand...
     
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  16. Checkerwagon
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    Outstanding post, well written with clear photographs of how its done. Thanks for taking the time to put this together.
    Dale K
    Cleveland OH
     
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  17. bct
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    great thread ...thanks loudpedal!.....my buddy made a crucible from a starter housing he welded a 1/2" bottom on a heavy one....he pours lead for downriggers
     
  18. I've done a fair amount of casting at home with my charcoal furnace. Your castings are far superior to mine. My sand is certainly to blame. I'm going to mix up a batch of Petrobond or K Bond for my next project. How did you melt enough aluminum to pour a bellhousing, or is your furnace larger than it appears?
     
  19. loudpedal
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    It took about 18 lbs to pour the bellhousing mold when you count all of the risers and gates the mold had. That was just about right at the limit of the crucible I was using at the time...
     
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  21. perkshotrods
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    subscribed , great post--- thank you
     
  22. Sebastian.A.G
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    very cool, great tech post

    thanks
     
  23. 54stude
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    I have taken a college level foundry class, and your post did a better job of explaining the process than my professor did!
     
  24. Kan Kustom
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    Very nice work!
     
  25. ironfly28
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  26. Dyce
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    Very good tech post Kris. Thanks for sharing!!
     
  27. Okie Pete
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    This is some great stuff thanks for sharing.
     
  28. hotrod40coupe
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    This is a great tech. I have been wondering how I could do this at home and now I know.
     
  29. trad27
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    Very interesting, now I want to try this. Is there a way you can make the part out of foam or a light wax and leave it in the sand and the molten aluminum would melt away the wax and foam? Or would it just cause impurities in the aluminum?
     
  30. 57FORD
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    i want to try this as well :) i can think of several things i could make for my truck
     

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