Can A car be tracked thru satelite radio ?

does anyone know? maybe a hidden built in theft device. Might be a selling point on old cars, sorry to the guy who got his truck stollen in austin. I Hate theves!!!

 

im thinking yes..but dont have anything to back up my paranoia.

 

It is possible.

I have a new Silverado pickup with ON STAR ... and it can be tracked. It can even be disabled by the ON STAR folks.

Randy

 

Sure can. Trucking/freight/parcel companies use these to check where their vehicles are. Works with a GPS sender (like satnav) so the tracking company, usually a security company, can tell exactly where the vehicle is and depending what options you take they can even call you to check if you're driving, call the cops, or remotely shut down the car. Depends how much you want to pay...

 

satellite radio (sirius/xm), no.

the other solutions above (and lojack), yes.

 

so... someone could hack into Onstar and disable all the Onstar equipped cars in the USA. Funny that has not happened yet.

 

if you dont pay for the on-star..and dont have it active in a car equipped with it..can they still fuck with it? like track it, turn it off etc...
you know big brother shit like?

i know they do have a black box in most new cars and trucks, and if involved in an accident they can scan it and tell if you were behaving well behind the wheel before the wreck

 

Why not just use something like Lo Jack? It probably has "big brother" things built into it, but way better than losing a prize vehicle.

Bob

 

Interesting My freind son in the Military tracked me to the resteraunt I was dinning at in less than a minute. As long as You have a cel phone on your person, you can be tracked anywhere in the world right to where your location is.

 

SORRY GUYS , I should have made myself more clear. I was talking about xm/sirrus radio. I know onstar and all that can. was just wondering if a guy has xm can it double as a theft device. of corse if you want to pay more I'm sure it can. dumb question, sorry.

 

Yes it can. Thanks to the homeland security act, all bets are off and anything can be used to track and herd the sheep and build a profile.
A little more paranoia for ya'll.
http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php

 

I would believe that since Serius satellite is a customer pay/contract business there is a way to track the vehicle.Each customer would have an identification number for each unit receiving a signal. That said vehicle would be able to be tracked on a global grid.....It's entirely possible.

 

Your sat radio receiver has no sending capabilities so no it can't be used as is for a tracking option.

 

Wrap your car in aluminum foil and then "they" can't track you.

 

at least as far as we know or are told

 

Not so sure. I have both XM and Sirius units and they (as do all) have a Receiver unit # that must be registered with either server (I know they merged, but still operate semi-autonomously) and have a paid subscription to receive the signal from the sat. Now, that suggests to me there is SOME feedback from the units in my vehicles, else they would have no way of blocking reception of their signals. I realize that doesn't mean they DO have tracking ability........but how much more software would have to be there to accomplish that? Like the guy who once sold me a phone system said, when I complained about the gross overkill of features, "It doesn't cost much to add all that stuff"

Ray

 

this is the way i see it as well. otherwise what would be the difference from your fm or am radio? you need a trasmitter to be tracked



skull

 

Hacker disables cars with aftermarket shutoff abilities
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/03/hacker-bricks-cars/

Not onstar, but goes to show that if the tech exists, stuff can happen.

BTW, there are fleet and container trackers if you want to be able to track your own stuff to thwart theft. Just do a google search. You want something that can be tracked inside buildings (not line of sight)!

 

Yes, they can be tracked

http://tech.blorge.com/Structure: /...and-iphone-can-be-tracked-but-companies-wont/

"There is one thing the Kindle, Sirius XM and iPhone have in common; all of the devices can be tracked by the service provider. The devices either need to be synced up to a computer, or have GPS/Wi-Fi capability which allows service providers to track them."

 

Perhaps you didn't see my post before this reply.........but the difference in AM/FM is considerable in that they are NOT paid subscriptions that can be blocked from receiving........as can XM/Sirius.......seems to me they can't block it if they can't monitor it.......and THAT would seem to require a two way signal. Not wanting be hard headed here,.... if someone can factually explain how that blocking is done, without a return signal....I can/will accept the notion.

Ray

 

Simple enough, there is a decode signal sent with the radio transmission, without the decode signal it won't work, just like HBO back in the day..

XM and Sirius are receivers, just as the other poster said - they do not transmit. Neither does your Garmin GPS, even if you have the MSN traffic service.......

On Star and the like are cell phone based services, so like a cell phone they can transmit and receive - that's how you can talk to the On Star lady after a crash when you're upside down in the ditch (like in the commercials)

 

my truck was stolen in may of last year, I was thinking it could be tracked because it had sirius. I callled them, they said no, there was no way to do that. now whether that's true or not, I dont know. that's what they told me.

 

My iphone uses similar technology to XM and Sirius and it can be tracked and cleared remotely if it is stolen, or if I piss off someone from the New World Order.

 

Yes, I understand the cell phone based idea of Onstar.......one last (?) question about the 'decode signal'.......with a million + subscribers HOW does one craft a decode signal? Does one signal work for all.......doesn't seem that would be very feasible.........nor does a million + seperate decode signals. Not doubting your info so much as trying to learn something about the cyberworld........

Ray

 

OK, so there are as many discrete decode signals as there are customers......got it!

Thanks,

Ray

 

this is it.. thats why when you activate your xm, they need the id # from your unit. i have several xm's and trust me if you forget pay, they stop broadcasting your code, no more radio. direct tv uses the same teck.

 

I am the perpetrator of numerous nefarious schemes, but they are only implemented in old cars that arent equipped with OnStar.

 

As does Dish Network, although the DirectTC security scheme has been hacked several times.

 

Satellite radio uses satellites in a geosynchronous orbit (that is to say the orbit is such that it takes 24 hours for the satellite to make one trip around the earth and is thus essentially "parked" above the same location all of the time). This orbit is about 24,000 miles above the earth. The locating systems depend on GPS (global positioning satellites) that are many in number and at a much lower orbit (I think about 200 miles). They are basically two completely different systems, so the answer is that tracking cannot be added to a satellite radio (unless you are talking about just packaging two things in the same box).

Charlie Stephens