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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 32ford5, Apr 25, 2010.

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  1. 32ford5
    Joined: Sep 15, 2009
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    I'm 100% on board with all of these excellent suggestions. Thanks for your support, suggestions and experience. All I want to do is have some fun so I'm easy with anything that will make this cool and a clean project.

    I agree, we have no goal yet but that's what we'll discuss. I'm leaning towards a drag car or salt car but only if we can have someone who we can trust and who knows how to build a safe race car.

    I'm still not sure how we can turn this into a fund raiser and we can raise funds (once we figure out how) for any worthwhile project.
     
  2. carcrazyjohn
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    I can picture the body in white with the hamb logo painted on the roof and black stripes on the side ,If this idea ever gets off the ground ,Count me in ,First thing that can be done with the idea is have the model group do models for the design ,,,
     
  3. ryno
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    here's my view and ideas, for what ever their worth.

    build a drag car for the HAMB drags.
    give the body and ALL donated parts to ryan, in his name.
    lets get the body shipped to someone whom would do up a chassis, and then move it to a shop centrally located (probably Texas since it's the new cali) where others would donate there time to get it done to line up in aug.

    if we could get this going id donate my time and shop in sw mo for what ever needs done.

    maybe sale passes at the hamb drags to help with the parts that need to be purchased? sale raffle tickets when its done to win the car?

    either way all money is given to ryan.
     
  4. 61 chevy
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    build a rat rod, that will cut the cost some,
     
  5. i dig the idea...could be a shitstorm argument over what is done to it, so maybe everything done by poll? since this is a traditional board, my vote goes for early 40's style coupe..blckwalls, the whole bit. nothing trend-related at all. I would be willing to help.

    ...I do agree that Ryan should hold title.
     
  6. Doc.
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    Hacker is on the right track. Kudos to the OP for being so generous in wanting to donate the body. But there has to be a clearly defined end game. And there has to be someone with a burning desire to see the project through to the end. You can only build a car by comittee for so long, then the worker bees have to actually do the task at hand. The reason that Andy's car was so sucessful, was that Andy was the reason for the build. I prayed every day that he would get to drive that car,and I didn't care what happened to it after it brought a smile to his face.

    Perhaps this car could be built with the thought of either selling it or auctioning it off with the procedes going to a very good cause. I have found the HAMB community to be very giving if the right cause is found.

    Doc.
     
  7. carcrazyjohn
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    Well I just read the last post .I personally dont like the idea of raffling the car ,Promotion is a big key and factor should be built in various states ,The worldwide Hamb drag car .I agree get that shell to a frame shop in the states Asap . Now the question is who is gonna tour the car when its done and since the car would cost to much to ship back to Austraila Are you willing to take the time over here to drive and see the car .I love the idea and concept ...Also would any feelings be hurt if the car never made it back to Austraila .....
     
  8. 32ford5
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    I'm down with that. I'd like to see a white coupe all dirty from racing. with rubber against the rear quarter panels from all the burnouts and up the doors from the zoomies!

    All excellent ideas. I have no problem with someone other than me holding the ownership to keep the whole situation clean and on the up and up.

    Thanks for your offer. We (I suppose that means me...lol) should start making a list of offers and locations.
     
  9. Route 66 fan
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    I think it's a cool idea, but needs some direction to make it a go. Since it will be a H.A.M.B. project, Ryan needs to be the voice of reason and judge when the shit hits the fan. Like one poster said, it will get messy and heated with too many cooks in the kitchen.

    My suggestion would be for the car to be brought down from Colorado to Austin. A committee could be selected (by Ryan) comprised of members from around the country to put in their ideas. These would be voted on by the general membership by polls on the H.A.M.B. Once these build decisions are made, a time limit will be adhered to and the build will be done by volunteer HAMBERS. All details of the build will be posted on the TECH pages of the site.

    Once the car is complete, it should be revealed at one of the shows like the HAMB Drags or LSRU. After the reveal, the car should be sent on a tour of the different shows to promote the HAMB and also used as a charity tool to spread the gospel of traditional rodding across the country. Insurance and other legal issues would be Ryan's responsibility with donated funds.

    Just my $.02
     
  10. Bill- I followed the previous thread with intrest and still want to contribute the '48 banjo rear and '33-34 radiator if they are any help with the build. Your generosity is appreciated and for all the negative posts, well no good deed goes unpunished. No I don't live in a fantasy world and understand how messy this could be. The folks here are being realistic about potential problems. I hope that doesn't let the wind out of your sails. I'd just like to see this thing get off the ground. A whole world of hot rod talent is right here on the H.A.M.B. and I really think this could work.
     
  11. carcrazyjohn
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    I hope Ryan chimes in on his thoughts and ideas.....I also think no money should be involved for labor .
     
  12. 63Compact
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    While it's a grand gesture I'm with Lucky. Run a HAMB auction and be done with it. I know you have good intentions and all but I see a shit storm on the horizon. 2 cents worth!
     
  13. 32ford5
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    Thanks for your input Doc, some great suggestions but I'm going to have to agree with John here. I would like to see this car be used or appearing at H.A.M.B. events for many years to come. I want it to be a perpetual project.

    John, the car will be built and driven in and around the US. I don;t need it to come back to Australia at all. I have enough projects down here to keep me busy.

    As to who is going to tour the car I think that can be done by volunteers who want to go to a meet but don't have a car to take? Just a thought. To be honest I never put much thought into what will eventually happen to the coupe. I was mostly thinking about the information and threads that could be created to keep us all amused.

    Excellent suggestions! We can use committee to make the major decisions but if this could become the official promotional vehicle for the H.A.M.B. I would be very proud. I think also if we could get a list of places the car could stay and each local team would be responsible for taking it to the track.
     
  14. klazurfer
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    Waay cool :) Stop all this who owns what thing! ... Most Excellent Idea you have 32ford5 !!! Let us build a Hot Rod ..
    I wanna be a part o-this .
    Hippi Cool :)
    Klaz
     
  15. 32ford5
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    Thanks Chevy57dude. Your support has been noted. Totally appreciate your parts offer too.

    63Compact, having a H.A.M.B. auction is a great way to raise money but would achieve none of the other possible goals and benefits of a build. If I wanted to give Ryan money I'd just give him money and give this car to someone deserving. The point (while possibly overly idealistic and naive) is for us to get some enjoyment out of this car.

    Plus I'm liking the idea of an official H.A.M.B. promotional vehicle more and more. It would show the style and community spirit of (most) H.A.M.B.ers and providing we can make the right style decisions it should be a real looker.

    I'd be wiling to stand in and make decisions on style, colour, direction if none can be agreed upon by vote. Let's prove that you CAN build a triple cool car by committee. I believe it is possible.
     
  16. 32ford5
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    That's the spirit!
     
  17. nofin
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    Love the idea. Some of the below has been mentioned by others, but I tried to pull it all together as maybe a base to build on.

    If a trust is established, HAMB charity trust (or something) then the title etc can be put in the name of the trust, and this will quash all speculation that 32ford5 wants a "free hotrod" .

    People who can't give time or parts can donate cash to let them be a part of it if they want (probably $5 each would be more than enough, and this cash can be used for things like paying the legal fees, title, insurance, shop time etc).

    The choices of what to do with the car, e.g drag, salt race as well as what engine, driveline, paint etc can be decided by polls on the HAMB. Also with regards to the driveline etc people can put stuff up and then poll to choose. E.g one member puts up for donation a flathead, one a hemi, one a nailhead then poll.

    The target for the car, e.g HAMB drags, LSRU, GNRS or a tour of the shows to promote the HAMB and the charity can be decided, as well as the benefiting charity/charities.

    At the end of the show tour, the car can be auctioned/raffled with the money and any money left over from the build going to charity. Then we can start again with another car. If Ryan will let us...

    DAMN you people type fast...
     
  18. If all else fails, why not auction off the body on the HAMB to the highest bidder. You get some of your money back to do with whatever you want and a HAMBer gets a body. No drama this way, you lick your wounds and move on and that's that.
     
  19. 32ford5
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    Thanks Nofin. Handy summary.

    I'm still wondering if there's a way this car can stay with us and become priceless instead of an item to be sold, then again I'd probably be in their bidding for it! This can not help but be a Cool McCoupe.
     
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  20. This same thing was tried by someone years ago here a couple times actually. There has to be a clear owner for it to work.
     
  21. 32ford5
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    Yep, that's definitely an option. It would be a shame to miss an opportunity for us all to do something special though.

    I'm ok with that.
     
  22. nofin
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    Maybe there could be a raffle/auction for the right to drive at an event, the same way when you look for Ferrari on epay you get the auctions to rent only. I'm sure people would be willing to pay to pretend for a weekend that it's their car. Insurance would be interesting...
     
  23. THE SPEED ADDICT
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    Heres my 2cents....

    First off, if this is going to be a HAMB thing, you'll need to have Ryan on board. You'll need a director, plans, goals, and a time frame to make it all happen.

    If all the proceeds go to charity, I'ld be willing to donate a few dollars once in a while for parts and such. Then when all said and done, I'ld pay up to $50-$100 for a raffle ticket.

    My thoughts about the build....

    It would be a cool car to win, but it would cost me alot to revise the car to my taste if it's finished.

    I'ld like to see, no rat rod, gasser, or gold chainer look! I think the car should be built solid; nice stock body with hood and sides and maybe fenders, stock reinforced frame, good simple motor and tranny/gearbox, basic front and rear suspension, enough wiring and seating/interior to make it a driver, and good coat of primer that's ready for paint.

    I think it should be built to a point where the winner finishes the car to their liking; wheels, paint, motor detailing, interior, and etc! Going this route would make it happen faster, costs would be less, cut down on the decision making and arguements, and leave more options to the winner.

    If this is going to happen, ya better get buisy!

    Cool idea and good luck! :cool::D:cool::D

    Matt
     

  24. Club cars worked in the fifties and sixties, but in this day and age I'm just not so sure. Love your optimism though. Good luck either way.
     
  25. just thinking out loud here and not sure why i'm even posting this but i would like to say first and foremost , i like the idea of a community built HAMB promo car . it is a tough time economically for some people right now and that makes donating the extremely rare and valuble parts that it would take to make this a huge success a bit of an issue. although it would be great to have all the parts given to the cause for free and all of the labor donated for free , it is just a bit unreasonable to ask of anyone.

    SO ..... what if Ryan offered an option when buying an alliance membership to donate an additional dollar amount ( ?? ) towards the HAMB promo car build . the extra money raised there could be used to buy some parts from HAMB members private stashes at reasonable agreed upon prices that would be fair to the sellers and make the build possible. also an option for donation from already paid alliance members . this way the original cost of the membership isn't being used for anything other than it's current use. also the vendors involved in the HAMB alliance could offer customers an option of donating a portion of the alliance member discount at time of purchase ,or could donate parts themselves. a fair labor rate could be determined and paid in vendor coupons or alliance memberships or other HAMB related merchandise which i wouldn't think Ryan would have a problem with since in the end The HAMB would own a killer car with a killer story behind it and paying for labor with T shirts and key chains and donations only helps spread the word of the HAMB anyway. it isn't going to be an easy thing to put together but i do think it would be do-able and i am impressed with the HAMB membership over and over so i'm sure it'll come together somehow.

    oh and by the way i think in keeping with the spirit of the HAMB drags and the TRADITIONAL values here a full on BONNEVILLE inspired build would rock !!!

    or just auction the body off and i will bid on it !!!

    jp
     
  26. resqd37Zep
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    I'm not a shop owner but I'm a big beliver in a random act of kindness. Kind of like these new commercials you see where one person see's someone else do a nice jesture so they go out and do one and it's repeated over and over again. I'd donate a few dollars,time,transport, and what not just to be a part of the concept.

    I think it would be all that much kooler to have it done in this time and age. A time when people can't fathom the thought of complete strangers sharing in a common goal. If there's a way to make it happen I'm in.
     
  27. Lobucrod
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    If this deal ever materializes and it makes it to Texas for all or part of the build then I'll gladly make a trip and install some insulation in it when its time for it. I'll at lease donate the insulation if I cant make the trip to install it. I'm sure I have some misc parts around collecting dust to donate also.
     
  28. ThirdGen
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    I think this is a cool idea. I would definitely lend a helping hand if it ever makes it up to the new england area. I agree with some about turning this into a fuel coupe, or at least the style of those coupes. Hammered top, stuffed/set back engine, slicks and skinnies, perfect!
     
  29. 32ford5
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    Let's not forget that body's going to take a lot of work and it would have to be a labour of love. That love can only come from ownership or community - in this case, community. I think if it was a cherry body it would be a different matter but this body has to be taken on by a team of enthusiasts who want to prove it can be saved and not because this coupe is the best coupe to work with.

    If we (as a group of enthusiasts) can save this car and make it (and us) shine then I think it's got to be a worthwhile exercise. It's sitting and waiting for us to work out a way to use it for fun and education. As long as the quality and ingenuity and style levels are high enough it may even be a worthy representation of what the H.A.M.B. is all about.
     
  30. metalman
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    I think this idea has merit. Organazations do this all the time, Don't NSRA and Goodguys build giveaway cars built with donated stuff? I use to own a car that was once titled to the KKOA, they built it and gave it away. The venders donating get lots of free advertising and the oranazation get promo benifits.
    I see it getting built, toured for a year or so promoting the HAMB, then auctioned off and the proceeds get split up to charaties and a portion kept by the HAMB to help Ryan keep this site and the other thing (events) that we all love going. Talk about a Sticky auction, wow, this could generate a lot of good.
    Yes, Ryan needs to be on board oviously plus there would have to be some organazation as far a someone to head up the program to keep it moving and in control.
    I'm retired now but still have my shop. I would have no gain by the "free" advertising but being retired I don't need income either so I'd be willing to pony up and help. A couple other HAMBers have shops here and I bet I could get some help there too. Donated parts from venders, donated labor from HAMBer's shops and donated funds to buy what else is needed and we could do some good here.
    We would need a poll on build style but my vote is an altered coupe drag style, maybe street legal but maybe for insurance reasons a trailered race car only while the HAMB ownes it.
    So when am I going to Colorado to get it and get the ball rolling?
     
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