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Khougaz Roadster sells for $385,000

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Choptop, Aug 21, 2007.

  1. drhotrodmd
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    That's a lot of cash but it is one of the great cars with history.
     
  2. GeeRam
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    No those sorts of toys are for the SERIOUSLY rich and makes $385k for a 32 look like small change.......

    385k would just about cover the cost of an engine and prop rebuild on a P-40....:D
     
  3. Mercmad
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    Well I'm not so much as "jealous" but looking at those pics I can only think that it has been fucked up by subjecting it to a pebblebeach makeover.
    Especially the 'look' of the timing tag, to me it looks like a brand new tag with numbers stamped in by machine or some 'jeweller ' who took a week to carefully line up the stamps and punch the letters and numbers in.Totally unlike any timing tag from the era i've seen and there fore in,my opinion totally unlike any thing in real life.

    I suppose there are some who like the ultra detailed look ,but to me it smacks of gold chains ,blue blazers and tan slacks and way too much money and too little taste.
    So someone paid $383,000 for it..well thats nice,probably sit well with their share portfolio too,and they are welcome to it. The thousand dollar Duece was more lifelike to me than that thing.
     
  4. rd martin
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    i know this is an old post but this car belonged to a guy who lives by me the doctor/ and he did drive it i saw it at a local cruise nite about 3/4 years ago it is awsome beautiful resto would love to own it
     
  5. tfeverfred
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    The classic lines and the pedigree speak for themselves. The word "art" applyed to a car of this level is an understatement. It truly defines our craft. Were we to have the funds, who among us would not wish to own her? I dare say, no one.
     
  6. MrGasser
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    I have been lucky enough to not only see the car in person, but touch it, turn some wrenches on it, and ride in it...yes, Mark spent ALOT of money on the restoration, BUT, he DID NOT baby that car! He DROVE IT,...not only to cruise nights, but to the hillclimbs, on reliability runs, and some cross-country road racing...the paint was worn off the quarter panels in spots, where the tires rubbed the metal from him driving the car hard into and out of curves and corners!
     
  7. GMC BUBBA
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    Mark and the car had attended the Newort Hillclimb ( he sponsors the alumbance service each year) a couple years and each time he drove it in. Everytime i seen the car it was never near a trailer , that fact alone made it a prety cool car! Too bad it still isnt running through Indiana backroads .
     
  8. Lakester32
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    I have the original belly pan on the wall in my barn.....
    It's got the original body, wheels, suspension, shocks, dash, instruments, and intake manifold and radiator. The engine, windshield frame, interior, wiring loom and tires are new, but faithful to the originals.
     
  9. Mark, glad to see you posting here. I caught your input and looked at your gallery Via Ryans/Bobs thread. Thank you so much for saving such a cool car!
     
  10. Lakester32
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    The timing tag is new and reprinted by and with the permission of the SCTA.... The originals are still in Jim Khougaz's tool box.
     
  11. Lakester32
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    I didn't write it off, talk about friggin' red flag for the IRS, and I drove the piss out of it!!!
     
  12. Do you regret selling it?
     
  13. banditomerc
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    Now go and build a clone,and your up 310,000.and it will be a better car!
     
  14. silent rick
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    i can't believe the condition it was in when you first acquired it mark. everyone did a fantastic job on the restoration.
     
  15. screwball
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    With that kind of money it may be an IRS wright off. So many ways to use extra funds to hide from the IRS. If you have that kind of extra cash laying around. I would love to be so lucky or skilled to have that extra money. It would be fun to be around at the D.M.V. when he goes in to pay his state tax on it though. YOU PAID WHAT FOR WHAT.
     
  16. Jeff Norwell
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    BOY!...Was I EVER WRONG!!!:)
    HAHAHAH
     
  17. Jeff, I thought I was the only one that noticed that. I was just going to put it on the thread with Bleed driving it. hahaha Pat.
     
  18. mj40's
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    And that is the sad part. Just wrong!
     
  19. kookee
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    Once your in that league, lets be honest, would you rather pay $300k for a new Ferrari or a one of a kind coupe? Perspective is different at different pay brackets.

    Sure we could all build a car or several with that type of money, but this one is etched in time. If it were cheaper, then driven into the ground, it would be lost to history. I hope it does not disappear, but it is certainly not my decision.
     
  20. hotrodladycrusr
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    You need to go back and reread the whole thread. :rolleyes: :p
     
  21. DirtyWoody28
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    I agree, I wouldn't want to pay that kind of dough for whats there, don't get me wrong the re-work is great!! but its not original, the only car I think I could even think of shelling out that kind of cash for is the Iskendarian Roadster, or the original Gabby Garrison roadster. my two favorites though so I guess its all a matter of opinion. I'll bet you could sell the bellypan back to the owner and make a huge profit!!!! Nice work man good to see you posting.
     
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  22. donnie
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    Sometimes it is good to be wrong. :rolleyes:
     
  23. barnescole
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    a good point was made here a few posts up.....the price of the car gives it a better chance of survival. the new owner likely has the financial ability to maintain, and repair, if necessary, without hacking it up.

    at 50k, it would likely be driven into the ground. or repairs may include lower cost solutions.
     
  24. hotrodladycrusr
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    You guys do realize that this thread is a few years old right? Mark (Lakester32) sold the roadster to Ralph and Ralph sold the roadster at auction last Sept. The current owner paid $214,500 and just like when it was in Mark's care, then roadster is getting driven.
     
  25. Very beautiful car,I saw it at Austin Speed shop during the Roundup.Bleed was so gracious to show it to us..
     
  26. Thirdyfivepickup
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    I still can't believe this car was less than 20 miles from me... 2 good friends have seen the car in person... yet I never got the chance.

    Sorry to see it leave the area... hopefully it is in good hands.
     
  27. Lakester32
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    You've got that right........regarding the clone. I have already scored an Auburn dash......not just the insert.....the whole dash, just like Khougaz used....and I found some NOS Auburn gauges last fall.......have the original radiator, but it's a wall hanger.......I happened to do a 3D digital scan of the entire car a week before I sold it.........It'll be a Brookville body and I haven't quite decided about the drivetrain........I could never really improve the original car with regards to handling and suspension....it woulda been a sin to modify the original........It was harder than heck to turn left.......really a bear, especially at Laguna Seca.....it was made to go straight.......the belly pan is really cool, but it got really hot, so I usually ran w/o the hoodsides and even with a partial belly pan. When I read these blogs I do sorta miss it.......it was my ticket to some of the " blue-blood" events like the Colorado Grand............I got off on being the " mongrel at the Westminster Dog show"......embarrased a few Porsches, Ferraris and Jaguars!!!!........the rebel hot rodder was a fun role to play!
     
  28. Lakester32
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    I figure every little scratch, dent and imperfection gained while drivin' the friggin' car and the patina that comes with the years makes it more and more authentic.....maybe in another 64 years it'll be closer to the original....and the original was mighty nice......have the photos to prove it...............
     
  29. rambler guy
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    Of course it's an incredible car. The unfortunate economic aspect to all of this is that the more publicity these very high dollar cars generate , the more our hobby will be examined the "tax police ". Especially here in Ca. Hopefully we can enjoy our hobby for a few more years before anyone who owns a "valuable old car" will have to pay taxes based on a "current" appraised value. It's an issue none of us wants to think about , right ?
    In the long run, a few megabucks "investors" are going fuck up our hobby.
     
  30. donnie
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    Why didn't you use the orginal belly pan? Was it in too bad of shape?
    Did you model the new belly pan after the old one or improve on it?
    Looking forward to seeing your clone!

    Everyone should go into Lakester32 photo album, hes got some great shots, during, before, and after.
     

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