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The chemistry behind header flames

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by beegator, Apr 30, 2010.

  1. beegator
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    Pirrone and Ellershaw style :)

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  3. buckeye_01
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    I don't see any chemistry just some dude showing off.
     
  4. Candy-Man
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    Chemistry, just pure showing, however a little on the rich side...
     
  5. beegator
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    "Some dude?" LMFAO.
     
  6. moving man
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    Great photos, not everyone can produce "show off" he,he flames like that :eek: other than nitro. I do love to see nitrous motors {showing off} 3-4 stages lit 660ft. It don't get much cooler:cool:
     
  7. Solid Rock
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    Considering that those are alcohol motors I think it is pretty cool!
     
  8. Boss Hydro
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    Jon,

    Your half right, there is plenty of chemistry and some mechanical happenings to make the flames......showing off? absolutely!!! As a "showman" thats what I get paid to do. Put on a show! We've been working on this for a couple of years. So far, the fans that have seen it, LOVE IT.! Thats whats important to me.

    Rocky Pirrone
     
  9. blt2go
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    those pics make me feel something, maybe chemistry would explain it. i will know for sure when i get video clips with good sound. great pics and a great "showman".
     
  10. davidwilson
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    easy! 16 plugs, dual distributors, run it rich, fire second distributor while exhaust valves are open
     
  11. blt2go
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    i don't see enough plug wires to pull that one off. am i missing something?
     
  12. Personally I like Bright White Flames !! >>>>.
     
  13. dirt racer
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    Annette,

    Nice pictures, thanks for posting them.

    Dirt Racer
     
  14. Boss Hydro
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    Hi David,

    We tried that set-up for awhile on our Big Time Memories Willys. We did it exactly the way you described and tried it with the plugs in the headers too with mixed results...... As you can see by the photo, we had some issues!

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  15. Boss Hydro
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    Your not missing anything. Over the past five years, we've played with different combos to get this to work. 16 plugs and dual mags was one of them, on both of these cars, we have just 8.
     
  16. Boss Hydro
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    Thanks Rocky!,

    Its all about the show! After a certain race on June 5th, we'll start "opening up" about how it all works. I think it would be neat to see big header flames become part of the nostalgia funny car scene again.......

    Rocky
     
  17. nailheadroadster
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    Great job! Awesome pics!
     
  18. walls
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    excuse my ignorance, what race are you talking about? just wondering if it was local since i see you're in philly.
     
  19. Boss Hydro
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    Sorry bout that! Its the Pep Boy / Bonifante performance Super Funny car showdown at Atco on June 5th. Its going to be a great time and a great show!

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  20. Solid Rock
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    I couldn't agree with you more Rocky. It is all about the show. Always has been and always will be.

    It looks like a great time at Hooters and I'm sure the Atco event will be a great success.

    Wish it was closer but it is a little too far for me to go.

    I'm headed out to RT 66 in a while to get a couple of test passes in.
     
  21. Boss Hydro
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    Good luck and be safe......we'll have a couple cars out tomorrow testing too. We have a busy year ahead with 20 races on the schedule....! Have to have all the fun you can...while you can! lol
     
  22. beegator
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    You are more than welcome. Geno (COBRASTAR) does outstanding work. Hope to see some of those photos on hero cards. :)
     
  23. hotrod mike
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    Hi Rocky,
    I saw the pics earlier on the FC board. Great job of promoting yourself and your team but also representing the nostalgia funny car movement. You, my friend, are a promotors dream. The flames out of both cars look spectacular! And, It's great to see BTM back out there too. Good luck this season, Mike
     
  24. Just out of curiosity, what's the significance (if any) of the H-D decals on the rocker covers?

    And so far as cool is concerned, it beats the hell out of anything I've got!
     
  25. flatheadpete
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    Cool....I mean, Hot....I mean....Man, that's bad ass.
     
  26. haroldd1963
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    Nice picture!!!
     
  27. Boss Hydro
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    Hi Mike!,

    Thanks for the kind words, it was nice to get the Big time Memories back on the track. I look forward to seeing you somewhere!

    Rocky
     
  28. Boss Hydro
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    The Screamin Eagle Funny Car is patterned after the Screamin Eagle motorcycles. We do displays for select Harley dealers.

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  29. 32v
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    just a guess.... would it be unburned nitro hitting moist oxygen when it leaves the header??
     
  30. Boss Hydro
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    I tried the 98% nitro deal too.... Very expensive! and believe it or not, not as effective. I believe the "nitro flames" you see on the big time NHRA cars is the Nitro that is lit, and is still burning when it comes out of the pipes. Its not so much it meeting the oxygen. On our deal, its a combo of "events" happening, one is where we lite the fuel and another is the "additive" we're using to extend the burn rate.
     

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