Is NY a hot rod friendly state? Do you still have to get your cars inspected? How do they handle modifications?
YES! I don't know of any problems getting a Hot Rod regestered in New York state. Rhinebeck N.Y. is tomorrow and 200-300 will be driving there.
No problem on vehicles older than 25 years,just the safety stuff.On older than 25 years there's no emissions and the exhaust system is not a part of inspection from what I know.NYC area might have stricter rules?Original equipment is the only thing required.If the car fails a NY inspection it's probably a real piece of **** NY DMV is looser than most states.No tiles on 72 and older.You can normally run an old car with zero paperwork through the system no problem.
for inspections that is the easy part. Are you considering the city area? let me know if you are inspection is easy
Start with a regular registration, then apply for historic or YOM plates. You will not believe how stupid easy it is to register an old car in NY. Just have your insurance card and walk in. You will be required to pay tax when you do register it. Tax is a one time only, at first registration. At registration they will ask if you want a temporary inspection, YES. They give you 10 days to find an inspector that you like. Where are you moving to? Or just thinking about it?
Right now it is the thinking stage. My wife is from Buffalo area. Being that I already own the cars and have clear ***les in my name would I still have to pay the tax? I paid tax on them when I bought them here and transfered the ***les. They are in project stage now, do I wait till they are drivers to get them in my name in NY or would this be done still in project stage? If they are registered as historical is there restricted driving times or can i drive anytime i want?
depending on your cl***ic insurance i know the company i have ( hamb vendor)americancollectors.com has a policy that if the car is worth over $10 grand i think you can drive it everyday to work but others are more restricted speaking of inspection is my 47 going to need one im not telling anyone about the upgrades
Not entirely sure if you have to pay taxes again or if they pro-rate the taxes based on what you already payed in Ohio. I can check next week when I go to ***le my car. What part of Buffalo are you looking to move to? There is alot of car clubs and activity in this area.
It's always been my experience with NYS DMV that each time a car is registered or ***led sales tax is collected. Not talking about renewals here, just transfer of ownership.
When a car changes ownership the new owner pays the sales tax on the amount paid, Both parties lie and swear to it on an MV 51 form. There is a safety inspection lights, horn, brakes, suspension and steering, windshield must be gl*** and wipers need to be there. Standards are what the car was born with or better. YOM and Antique tags are limited mileage ( 2K per year) insurance policies are usually written that way also. There are guys running old dirt track modified cars around with lights, and horn. The only problem might be if your car is pre 72 (the ***le law year) you will not get a ***le (nor will you have to spend the 75 bucks to get one) you will get a transferrable registration do***ent) good for NY but might be a problem if you move out of state. SO if you have a tilte from another state you might want to make a certified copy of it if NY wants the old one, they may not. All the fees just went up and some counties are charging a renewal surcharge cause the economy went to **** and they need funds. The registration for antique or YOM is for one year only, regular cars are for 2 years. Flat fee, just renewed mine for 28 bucks uset to be 17 (or was that my trailer) Inspection is annual at 10 bucks a pop. Recently gotten a little tought to get a lick it and stick inspection due to a computer tie in to the Albany DMV headquarters. All stickers now have a bar code that is flashable at the road side, If the numbers don's agree, its a big violation. However I can not ever remember a YOM car or Historic being pulled over unless the driver did something stooopid.
Years ago I bought a Pontiac from a couple who'd moved from PA to Binghamton and registered it here before they sold it. I have in a file folder here someplace the PA ***le that came with it, apparently the DMV gave it back to them when they put the car on the road here. If you have a seperate registration card, you may not even need to show the DMV the ***le itself - which means if you leave NY for some reason, you still have a ***le in your name for the car. The MV51 and MV51-B forms are only for in situations where there is no paperwork, and one is only needed when you've owned a vehicle less than 12 months. To get plates using those you need insurance, filled out green MV80, a pencil etch or photo of your serial tag, and weight - either a certified scale weight slip, or sometimes they can fudge it if you give them enough serial number info to look up other cars in the system - but that's the key, they can only look up by serial/VIN - the last one I did we had a hard time finding a match in the system, kept getting Hondas instead of Chevrolets. NY bangs you for two years reg based on the vehicle weight. Another goofy thing about that Pontiac - it said it weighed 2300 lbs on the old paperwork, so that's what I paid. I had a '59 Olds same body style, only difference was it had A/C and on the NY reg it said it weighed 4400 lbs. I guess it depends on what clerk you get, I've had them adjust the weight right at the counter before when they thought it might be too much. I had an inspector's license. They are supposed to pull one wheel and look over the brakes, and you can flunk one for having brake hoses in poor shape, rotty body mounts or frame issues, and other stuff - even that varies some with the inspector. I'd ***ume your cars are decent or you wouldn't bring them here, so odds are you shouldn't have a problem. From what I've heard we have a fender law (cars over like 2300 lbs), but it's apparently not enforced, as mentioned above there are guys running old stock cars on the road, a local guy has a full on tube frame ch***is car with a '36 Chevy coach body on it, that really raced 30 odd years ago, on the road and driven literally to the grocery store once in a while.
I'll reiterate what others have said, it's awesome and sooo easy to register/inspect your old cars in NY state. I'm originally from PA which is absolute ****ing DMV hell. Having registered several old cars and a street rod tagged vehicle from PA in NY when I moved, you do NOT have to pay tax on vehicles you already own to register them. I also just spoke to the DMV about NY historic plates, there are no driving restrictions at all. Just cheaper registration and insurance for old cars!
Compared to most states, NY is pretty hot rod friendly. It seems to be the one thing here that isn't a pain in the ***. They are also trying to p*** a lifetime registration in NY for "Historic" cars. It's supposed to be something like $100 bucks for as long as you own it, one time, flat fee. Anyone hear about this?
when my son moved back from south dakato and reg. his car in NY they charged sales tax on it , because he still had his ny license. If you reg and change your out of state reg/license then you pay no tax. But everything depends on the DMV jerk you get, otherwise i say NY is hot rod freindly.
You have hell of a lot to haul if you move! Or you're gonna have a nice barn sale. Good luck making the move. Ohio will miss ya
One Caveat and a big one. If you are bringing in a car with a salvage ***le, be prepared to pay big bucks 250 or 300 to schedule and complete the NY anti theft deterent salvage vehicle inspection. And be prepared to bring reciepts ad pictures with lines and arrows on the front and a paragraph on the back explaining what the lines ad arrows mean. To prove your car is not built from stolen parts. My daughter is havig to junk her car coming in with a Florida ***le because the cast and time aed justified for a 16 year old car (94 Honda Accord EX coupe I bought new) She would need to have the inspection, 300 bucks, pay for a new ***le 75 bucks, pay the sales tax on the money we paid the ins company to retain the car, show her reciepts for all her parts dooe and fender, and prove she paid sales tax on them, and then pony up the registration fee surcharges and new plate fee. Plus it needs a new timing belt. And it would need to go through the NY safety inspection. So we decided to go another direction. DMV clerk told me the only other state they recognize a salvage inspection from is New Jersey, (go figure) So if anybody needs a ecent car for a young driver, and wants to jump through the NY hoopes let me know (good parts car too)
He got screwed. I changed my license over as soon as I moved here and later registered 3 vehicles with PA ***les in my name and didn't pay a dime in tax. How can they tax you on something you already own? Do they just pull a number out of the air?
I am not aware of any fender law here in N.Y. for non-commercial vehicles. Commercial vehicles do have fender requirements. You can view all the New York State Vehicle & Traffic Law at the address below. http://public.leginfo.state.ny.us/L...&BROWSER=BROWSER+&TOKEN=07353948+&TARGET=VIEW
It will be a little bit of both. I will be hauling a good amount of stuff up there with me and I will be selling a bunch of stuff as well. Right now it is just conversations between my wife and I. It may not even happen but i am trying to figure out what I would be getting myself into if it does. She is from Clarence but we would look for something in Niagra County so I do not have to deal with the city of Buffalo if I need to do something. SOmething out in the country. Two of the cars I will be bringing with me will be fender less hopefully there is not a fender law.
I have many good friends in Clarence, Great town, but expensive to live in. I live in the next town south of Clarence. Niagara County is not bad at all to live in. Are you coming to work in the GM plant with the new engine line coming?
The local NY DMV has always been cool to me with old cars. Just make sure you have all the forms, signed bill of sale, whatever is required. I've ran into shops that were not hotrod friendly when it came to doing inspections. Some shops are ultra-protective of their license and anything in the gray area is a no-go for them to p***. Bob
Once past the DMV it's clear sailing, sometimes they can be a real pain in the ***. It's hard for me to believe that somebody is moving to this state of taxation though, most want out not in...lol
That is what we are shooting for, there are a lot of factors not in my control. Clarence is very expensive, that is why we will not be moving there. My wifes parents built there in the '70's. Taxes seem to be cheaper in Niagra county and can live there without being too far from the plant. There should also be a few hospitals near for my wife to get a job. I hate to start over again but it can be hard not having anyone around when we need something. the new work is still a year and half to two years out so I have time to stash money for the move. Hopefully NY will become more gun friendly in the meantime. Next town south, is that Amherst?
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