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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by scootermcrad, May 6, 2010.

  1. scootermcrad
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    Anyone have/use a hoop style rotisserie? Does it work well? Thinking about making one. Seems pretty simple.

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  2. i wonder how you get the body on it , maybe with that forklift?

    i ***ume it's not your car pictured , but a convertible body with no bracing is not a good idea
     
  3. scootermcrad
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    Oh yeah! I didn't even notice that! HAHA! Yeah, that's not such a good idea. Not mine, nope.

    I'm guessing you just raise up each end until you can get the hoops mounted. Yeah, I see what you're saying.
     
  4. alchemy
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    That's a unibody car. It's not gonna get any stronger setting on the ground than it is up in the air.
     
  5. J&JHotrods
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    A friend of my dad built one for his '34. No pics of it, but just on the inside of 2 of the hoops, he made flat pads to accept jack stands to keep it upright(or whatever position you desired), and the whole deal was a bolt-together type deal, and the body was on jackstands. The hoops basically install from the front and rear with angle iron attaching both hoops together in a 3,6,9, 12 clocking position, as viewed from the front.
     
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  7. 49ratfink
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    where you going to get the hoops? I know a guy who had a non-car fab shop that had a big wazzooo machine for hoop making. I'm sure they would cost a bunch more than what I have in my "regular" rotisserie.

    ""That's a unibody car. It's not gonna get any stronger setting on the ground than it is up in the air.""

    should have been braced before they ever started to take it apart.
     
  8. scootermcrad
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    Going to have someone roll the hoops for me. The rest looks pretty simple to me.
     
  9. Kramer
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    Interesting concept, using hoops. I was going to use two engine stands to build one similar to the one in the above link, but never got around to it. Probably still will as I have all the tack welded brackets on my T frame to weld up.:D
     
  10. 31aBoy
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    I agree with bracing a car before you get it on a rotisserie, but they have that car mounted in the same area where the rear axle and front suspension would be mounted, so i don't see what all the fuss is about.
     
  11. scootermcrad
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    I was thinking it would be easier to rotate the load (body, frame, or whatever is mounted) with the hoop design.
     
  12. R Frederick
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    Especially with the roller bases.
     
  13. 49ratfink
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    ease of rotation is also a question of balance. gotta get the weight centered in whatever you build.

    there is an engineer type selling some nice ones around here at the local swaps. he has it set up so you barely have to push the car to rotate.

    I built one out of my s**** pile loosely based on his handout he was giving out. I only had to purchase a couple of tubes that fit inside of each other for the rotating part. takes a bit of effort to rotate it, but it only cost me about 50 bucks.
     
  14. 49ratfink
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    in the car shown the door gaps could close up a bit at the top. it needs a brace to keep that measurement exact. I'd brace between the front "frame rails" also.
     
  15. scootermcrad
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    You guys forced me to change the picture to something that's supported properly? :rolleyes:

    Couldn't find one with an on-topic car! Sorry! :rolleyes:
     
  16. well , i didn't see it was a unibody and it may be OK....it just doesn't look right. i still would have spent a few minutes and built a brace for the door openings


    it really doesn't make any difference because it's not the original poster's car and it's not the subject of this thread. i just made an unwanted observation in my first post

    back to the rotisserie

    edit: i now see you changed the picture
     
  17. scootermcrad
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    SOOOO.... does anyone use one of these?? :D:rolleyes:
     
  18. goford51
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    here were im at they are doing alot of fiber optic cable the rolls are about the same size as what you would need you might could get one cheap and its already rolled looks like it would work good
     
  19. 49ratfink
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    hey where did the convertible go?
     
  20. scootermcrad
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    The Mustang beat it up and took it's place. :D Was just trying to get things back on-track...
     
  21. AAFD
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    I swiped these pics off another forum because I'd like to build something like this someday. No, the VW isn't HAMB friendly, but the rotisserie idea is very simple and effective.
     

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  22. Kevinsrodshop
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    Wow thats a good idea! I like the roller one better than the VW one since you could leave it in one spot and rotate it all day but the VW one would be easier to build. Either way a really good idea.
     
  23. scootermcrad
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    Gonna' bump this up one more time...

    For those of you that actually use them, how do you like painting with them i place or do you do your prep work only?
     
  24. Auto Doug
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    [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]Hey guys thanks for finding and discussing my new rotisserie the Roller Hoop it is still a bit of a new concept for most, but a couple dozens of them out across the country now, and we have six of them in use at our shop. Should be just a matter of time before you start seeing the Product in more places. It truly works great for all (and any) restoration projects be sure to visit our web site to see more pictures of it in use. [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
     
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  26. vintage6t
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    Here's a link for a partial loop design. I bookmarked this one about 5 years ago b/c I thought it was a pretty simple idea. Rollover Unit
     
  27. 1950ChevySuburban
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    I have LOTS of these hoops, they come from Tucson Electric Power, our utility. They're used as wire spools, like giant 10foot wagon wheels. I cut them in half and use them as fencing. Check your local cable / electric utility, may get some free ones.
     
  28. bct
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    i seen one 20 years ago that bolted on the wheel mounting surface ....the fellow used it for sand blasting and body repair....he loved it
     
  29. scootermcrad
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    I indeed ended up making one... Wasn't as nice as the one Auto Doug mentions, but I simply couldn't afford the price tag and knew I wouldn't use it enough to make it worth my while even if I could. This worked fine for my little project...

    Eventually I'll weld more tabs to the hoop to mount other things in it and finish the braking system for it (screwdriver works just fine for now :D)


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    Fork lift worked great since I had it...

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  30. Auto Doug
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    Yes there is a lot to making something so simple, work so well! looks like your a man of means and determination. I had to develop mine as a full functioning system that would allow complete rotation over and over up to 26 revolution per minute to be able to get all the dirt and grit out of a body shell once blasted. It had to be transportable quickly and easily so I developed the rolling casters that quickly pin lock on to the Hoops. My media guy Loves it because he can roll it directly on the ground ( no moving parts to worry about getting media in etc). plus he can do the clean up job in less time, as with my end mount unit (it would be a couple of days since it took a lot more time to mess with the the mechanism to rotate it and so on). I also had to have away to stop and lock it in place when I had the body shell in the location I wanted to do metal work, all the way to finish prep work. The four foot brakes I developed work great and just applying one will lock and hold in position while you perform your work, toe kick the brake off and your rolling! that simple no bending down no wrench to tightening a bolt no pin to line up! Just a simple foot brake that work great! I have six units in my shop at any given time, and we have a few dozen of them out across the country, and I'm currently staging up ten more complete units for for our inventory, so all you guy that might need some help to get your project up and Rolling, I'll try to post a few pictures of my Roller Hoop system. [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
     

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