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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by budd, Nov 22, 2006.

  1. Kreepea_1
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    That photo is the only shot I have left, the rest were destroyed. I had my albums stored in my Fiero and, unfortunately, the sunroof in the Fiero developed a leak. In the photo you can see a piece of the stabilizer bar. The stabilizer bar could have been a bit of overkill but I didn't get a chance to try it out on any seriously winding roads. I have an old article with great illustrations that my be of use to you. Send me your email address and I'll send it to.
     

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  2. This is really a great thread on rear suspension "black art" of truck arms mounting , Makes it clear and I think I will give it a try, , Always seem to learn something new everyday on the HAMB, thanks ,,,,
     
  3. jr9162
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    What year truck did you get your stock trailing ams out of?
     
  4. Hackerbilt
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    They were stock in most 67-72 2wd Chevy pickups...
     
  5. thekid54
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    ^Actually, '60-'72
     
  6. i am using the trailing arms on my merc. I would like to see if anyone has shots of the bags mounted on the trailing arms.

    tok
     
  7. rusty48
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    Most GMC's in the 60's had leafs and Chevy's had coils but they could be ordered with either one.
     
  8. brokenspoke
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    Not true...You could order either suspension on either truck
     
  9. Hackerbilt
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    Wow! I did not realize it went that far back! Never really been around the early 60's model pickups.
    Hard to argue that it doesn't work according to that. 13 years of use?
    Cool.
     
  10. DrJ
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    SOME ONE ALL READY "CORRECTED" THIS "Flagrant lie" THREE FUCKING YEARS AGO!!!
    SO WHAT IF YOU COULD "SPECIAL ORDER" THEM... YOU COULD SPECIAL ORDER STEER HORNS ON THE GRILL TOO!!!
    THEY DIDN'T "COME WITH THEM" AND YOU WEREN"T LIKELY TO FIND ONE ON A LOT NEW AND YOU SURE AS HELL ARE GOING TO LOOK FOREVER AND A DAY FOR ONE OF THOSE ONE IN TEN THOUSAND "SPECIAL ORDERS" IN A JUNK YARD!!!
     
  11. budd
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    hey i started this thread..lol, i have never seen a 60's gmc 2wd pickup without coil springs, 4wd yes, maybe gmc's in Canada were different, the drivers side arm rusted out on my 72 3/4 ton 2wd and i pulled an arm off my 64 gmc 1/2 ton 2wd and it fit right on, the 3/4 ton did have an extra piece of 1/8" plate welded to the top for most of its length and i just made the same piece up and welded it to the 64 gmc arm.
     
  12. DrJ
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    Canada... Where they made Mercury trucks and Pontiacs that were Chevys under the fenders... :rolleyes:
    Furrin' car & truck idiosyncrasies don't coun't ;)

    Still... What yahoo brought this old thread up? It was three damn years ago!!!:(:mad::D

     
  13. torchmann
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    The way people overload their trucks way beyond capacity...Coils would begin to sag after being abused and no-one ever thought to replace them after they got all fagged out. leaf springs were more farmer proof.
     
  14. Someone please forward a link of this to Kyle Busch.

    After tonight's race, he's going to need it.

    JH
     
  15. hotrodsbyray
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    from Tennessee

    Anybody know what "race parts warehouse" may sell these arms / bushings / etc for a decent price?
     
  16. CoolHand
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    SCP

    Stock Car Products

    Do a google search, they're a big time supplier for the NASCAR touring guys.
     
  17. No disrespect intended DrJ, but do I sense some hostility here? Relax!:D

    Just wondering, do you think I can order steer horns on a new Tundra?;)
     
  18. Ok guys, I know this is a friggin old thread and pretty much unrelated to my question but who is a NASCAR fan, or at least takes some notice?
    I would like to know what the general thoughts seem to be on Aussie driver Marcos Ambrose??
    He had a strong following here in Oz, just wondering how hes going out there in the big bad world??...
    Thanks,
    Doc.
     
  19. dec102677
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    standard nascar truck arm is 51" long there r three types of busching u can put up front mono ball small rubber busching or large rubber busching they are 2 and 7/8 tall and 2 to 2 and 7/8 wide the pad comes in 16 degree or 8 degree and there is 12" short version they run on short track on left side shock mount is six inches of center line of rear tube pretty simple suspension set up i deal with it everyday if u need any help let me know can even build u some
     
  20. CoolHand
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    I dig him. He's fast, seems like a nice fellow, and he's not afraid of the big boys. He definitely belongs in the show.

    I will say this though, he has shit luck. If an airplane crashed on a NASCAR track while a Cup race was in progress, it would land on poor ol' Marcos.

    He's already fast, but the finishes are lacking because of the aforementioned crummy luck. When his luck finally turns for the better, he will start to finish the race like he ran all day, consistently, instead of running well and getting run over, or blowing up, or getting hit my a seagull, etc. ;)

    They say the luck belongs to the good players, and to a certain extent this is true, but I tend to think that at the level those guys are playing at, the luck is what defines the good players and separates them from the rest of the pack.

    Take Johnson last weekend. Three laps down, motor looks to be blowing up, etc. He's hosed. But they never quit, they kept banging away at it, and they got it fixed. They were good, and persistent, and they pulled the engine back from the bring, but that alone wouldn't have gotten them the finish they ended up with. They got lucky twice with timely cautions and that got them back onto the lead lap. Those cautions fall in some other order, and they finish 35th instead of 13th, ya know?

    Now, don't get me wrong, those guys are some of the best (if not THE best) in the business, but the difference between a valiant effort that would have ultimately ended for naught, and the miraculous save that kept them in title contention was largely luck.

    Like my old man said, "You can't fight the flying fickle finger of fate." ;)
     
  21. spiffy1937
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    Hi Doc,
    The wife and I like him! (just wish he wasn't driving a Toyota) You'll be happy to know that he won at Watkins Glen today for the 2nd year in a row in the Nationwide series. Tomorrow is the Sprint Cup race at The Glen and he'll be in it. Do you get to watch any of the NASCAR races??
    Bruce
     
  22. Thanks guys, I know that an 'outsider' often cop's a lot of ill feelings in something like this. We had some English drivers come over and drive in V8 Supercars and they seemed to be hated just because they were Poms!
    We dont get any NASCAR coverage at all, not even Daytona other than a very rare race late at night or a mention on sports tonight. I would like to see some of the road course races though.
    Thanks,
    Doc.
     
  23. hotrodsbyray
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    Coolhand - I checked SPC and they were $300 apiece if I read their catalog right. Whew - I was hoping I could find them cheaper.

    Dec102677 - I might take you up on it! The 8 or 16 degree - what angle is that exactly - is it the angle the pad sits on the axle in relation to the arm?
     
  24. CoolHand
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    Sorry man, Superspeedway parts cost coin.

    They gotta be hell for stout to survive a 3,800 LB car at 200+ MPH, and the market is small.
     
  25. TurboHaddix
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    I got a realy nice set of RHE trailing arms off *bay for $75 last month. They were used but they were in great shape. The guy selling them was dismantling an old Dale Jr. car. Pretty neat to think I have genuine Dale Jr. parts going on my project.
     
  26. CoolHand
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    That is pretty cool.

    One word on used racing parts though: Magnaflux

    ;)
     
  27. Ambrose did a good job at Watkins Glen last weekend! I loved watching the V8s on Speedvision when they showed it.

    I does NOT get better than V8 SuperTourers at Mt. Panorama!
     
  28. Leevon
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    Old thread, but I just want to share and maybe somebody can use this info in the future. I have a trailing arm rear end in my '71 swb and have always liked the ride so I decided to adapt one to my '50 chevy truck. I found the whole back half of a truck for $50 and it came with new in the box bushings, u-bolts, and hardware. In this truck its as easy as trimming the crossmember ends to fit up to some channel inside the frame rails, finding axle center line and bolting or welding in. The only creativity required will be the upper bag or spring mounts and they are simple. Here it is in mock-up (crossmember is not trimmed yet and sits too high), I'll get some pics when it's all finished up. I'll be running bags and a small notch too:

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  29. krooser
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    Hey Leevon...can you tell me what the measurement is from the C/L of the rear axle to the center of the front arm mount? I want to put this deal in my f100 but with only a 100" wb (not a misprint!) I may have to shorten them a bit...

    Thanks.
     
  30. pdq67
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    I have asked several times on the other Boards like both T/C's and maybe even NastyZ28 what would happen if I used quarter elliptical springs center-bolt ridged mounted to H-D SFC's then on to something like Johnny-joints at the rearend housing at say the spring perches on my '67 Camaro SS/RS car like the old mag article put under the Chevette w/ the 500" Cad engine installed dam near mid-engine and got no reply's!

    Any takers"

    pdq67
     

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