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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by kurtis, Jul 18, 2009.

  1. The37Kid
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    [​IMG]Never knew they actually did these things, always thought it was just poster artwork, thanks for the proof.
     
  2. Hey- I just noticed, the 100th anniversary of that event is tomorow.
     
  3. Ken_Schou
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    Some recent postings here have brought some questions to my mind re some motor sports facilities/tracks that seemingly existed in Brooklyn, NY that I never before heard of. Those are the (a) Manhattan Beach Motordrome, (b) the Coney Island Motordrome (not the Velodrome) and (c) the Dreamland Motordrome.

    Can anyone of you knowledgeable folks tell me any details about the above tracks? Things like when the opened/ran/existed .. where (street, avenue names, anything) they were, what ran there (type of cars &/or motorcycles, etc.), where they dirt, paved, boards, who promoted them, who sanctioned the events? ...... Anything at all would be GREATLY appreciated. No detail would be too small.

    THANKS in advance.
     
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    An admittance ticket from 1909.
     

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    Don , We are most interested in all of the information on these tracks along with photos of the same.
     
  6. ehdubya
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    I saw a postcard of the Auto Bolide years ago and thought it BS and apparently so did the punters at the time when they saw the apparatus. It appears Mauricia de Tiers may have only performed this stunt once in the US at Madison Square Gardens in 1905 and local gal local gal Miss Isabelle Butler took over doing it and the variation known as 'The Limit' depicted above.

    Scroll down to Circus Loop the Loop Acts for more... http://www.circushistory.org/Bandwagon/bw-1969May.htm
     
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    I don't think A existed, B and C were mini motordrome amusement park tracks but not as tight or vertical as what's become know as a Wall of Death.
    I think the Jockey Club abandoned Brighton to the autos in 1907, it was too sandy to be a fast horse track. Pictures of the Brighton Motordrome once the banking started 1909-13 seem to be as rare as any reference to a Manhattan Beach Motordrome.
     
  8. ehdubya
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    The news coverage of Brighton Beach Motordrome seems to talk about this drome and a dirt track without distinguishing them. That track agian...

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    and another Brighton Beach Motordrome...

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  9. T-Head
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    Have a good BDay and keep your great photos coming. T-H
     
  10. noboD
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    Happy BD to Keith. And congrats to Audi at Le Mans, finished 1,2,3.
     
  11. kurtis
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    Happy Birthday Keith.
     
  12. kurtis
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    Yes, it was a surprising win for Audi. Unfortunately for Peugeot they suffered a little bad luck from the onset which made their task all the more harder to achieve. It was an intriguing race never the less.
     

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    Thank you all,:eek::eek::eek:

    Le Mans is a special place, i watched todays race as much as possible. Fasinating to see it all unfold.

    I have been lucky enough to go 4 times (3 24hr + 1 classic)
    to keep this on topic (sort of) here's a couple from the classic.

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    Keith
     
  14. T-Head
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    Here is one more to add from the Le Mans Classic. It is a Montier equipped Model T Ford of the type that Kurtis is very interested in. I am going to let him tell you folks more about them someday here and also in the the racing thread I have established in the Model T ford section of the new Ford Barn Website the Ryan has built.

    Follow this link there to find out about one of the most versitile cars on the face of the earth. You may enjoy it.

    http://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3723
     

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    1921 Ballot ? At the French Grand Prix ?
     

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    Alfa Romeo 8C 2900 Le Mans.
     

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    A Hudson at speed on a board track.
     

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    Ferdinand Porsche.
     

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    A few bits of flotsam and jetsam from the New York racing scene: Staten Island, Empire City, Briarcliff, Morris Park, and Sheepshead Bay.

    The picture with the start of the race is the Brighton Beach Motordrome. The banking in the turns was fairly mild, but enough to increase the speeds that could be carried through the turns.

    This sort of stuff is very superficial and scarcely touches the surface -- much less scratches it -- of the New York racing scene of over a century ago. Again, a story for another time and place, but not here.
     

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    Interesting maps Don, This is Sheepshead 1915 350 mile start. Resta on pole, Aitken, Oldfield and Burman

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  23. Vitesse
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    Ballot 2LS - oui. Grand Prix de l'ACF - certainement. 1921 - non. ;)

    Actually 1922 at Strasbourg. Giulio Foresti and his mécanicien refuelling. Foresti is the one hauling the churn off the pit counter.

    This picture can be found in the LAT archive.
     
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    Quote: ehdubya

    Interesting maps Don, This is Sheepshead 1915 350 mile start. Resta on pole, Aitken, Oldfield and Burman.

    Your right about that...... here is a page from the November, 1915 Motor showing the same start. Photo 2.
     

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    I'll just throw a few out .................GN


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    Keith, what are the odd "Push bars" for?
     
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    Those I believe are tripping the timing devices.

    Great Pixs......What is the last one???
     
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