Register now to get rid of these ads!

sbc problems

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by boneafide, Jun 17, 2010.

  1. boneafide
    Joined: Mar 7, 2010
    Posts: 2

    boneafide
    Member

  2. wino01
    Joined: Dec 19, 2007
    Posts: 381

    wino01
    Member

    Give him a second guys, he is having some pushrod problems and also some typing issues.
     
  3. I'm having them too ... the SBC problems that is. I have so many SBC's apart and spread out all over my garage right now....blocks, cranks, heads, pans, intakes......trying to make one good one out of the lot. Sounds a lot easier than it is....for me anywho.
     
  4. wino01
    Joined: Dec 19, 2007
    Posts: 381

    wino01
    Member

    He's got a sbc vortec, w/ early heads and he has an iissue with bending pushrods. The first time, it bent 2 pushrods and the lifters came apart. Now he has bent pushrods and the lifters seem to be ok. He pulled the intake and a lifter was laying in the valley. I don't know maybe a bad cam?
     
  5. badshifter
    Joined: Apr 28, 2006
    Posts: 3,573

    badshifter
    Member

    I see the problem.... No intro from a FNG... all other problems are secondary
     
  6. outlaw56
    Joined: Mar 28, 2010
    Posts: 105

    outlaw56
    Member
    from Hines, MN

    What is your adjustment for the Valves?
     
  7. isn't there a sbc formummm...for all things bowtie?....just sayin....
     
  8. wino01
    Joined: Dec 19, 2007
    Posts: 381

    wino01
    Member

    I think he will be glad to get some answers anywhere he can.

    The valves were set at 3/4 turn after quiet.

    He has been on here about 2 years.
    I called him and he is retyping. Soon to come
     
  9. Russco
    Joined: Nov 27, 2005
    Posts: 4,329

    Russco
    Member
    from Central IL

    I would Check for coil bind and valve clearance issues first.
     
  10. outlaw56
    Joined: Mar 28, 2010
    Posts: 105

    outlaw56
    Member
    from Hines, MN

    Learn to type/peck, give intro, give more specs in order to trouble shoot "on line".
     
  11. wino01
    Joined: Dec 19, 2007
    Posts: 381

    wino01
    Member

    We checked coil bind today and seems to be no issues.
    I don't think there are any issues w/ running the early heads but unsure.
     
  12. erlomd
    Joined: Apr 26, 2008
    Posts: 1,212

    erlomd
    Member

    at first i thought it was a funny thread...laughed my ass off at first...well...now that I know its serious, it could be the cylinder filling with unburnt fuel due to a bad coil or spark plug...maybe also preignition probs....I hope you solve your issues....but hey, welcome to the HAMB!
     
    Last edited: Jun 17, 2010
  13. wino01
    Joined: Dec 19, 2007
    Posts: 381

    wino01
    Member

    I called him and he will post under his name pontiac4903
    His wifes isnt working!!!
    That is funny .
    He will try again
     
  14. Pontiac4903
    Joined: Mar 11, 2008
    Posts: 24

    Pontiac4903
    Member

    Sorry for all the problems. I logged in under the wife's user name and everything appears to be ok. I type and type and type, get ready to send and the damn thing says I need to sign in. Been there and done it. Then it erases the message. HAPPENED THREE TIMES, I'M TIRED AND CAN'T TYPE. SORRY AGAIN.
     
  15. That happened to me a lot too......now when i finish typing I "copy" using the right click and then I can "paste" it back in if it goes missing..works great.

    There is obviously a mechanical problem here. Valves hitting pistons, valve guides hitting retainers, valve springs stacking up...that kinda thing. Are you running a massive cam? Do you have adequate valve to piston clearance? If the pushrod bends enough it will fall out of position, allowing the lifters to be thrown up out of their bores.

    When is he having these problems? As soon as it is started? During a 6500 rpm 3rd to 4th shift?

    I can't see it being a cam problem. I am assuming you are using the lifters that were made for that engine. They can't (?) get "caught" on anything. They simply push the pushrod. Now something is stopping the pushrod from being pushed up...mechanical interference of some sort. Are you using a large cam, but aren't using the "long slot" rockers maybe?

    You can run Vortec heads on the earlier engines so I assume you can run early heads on a Vortec engine.
     
    Last edited: Jun 17, 2010
  16. wino01
    Joined: Dec 19, 2007
    Posts: 381

    wino01
    Member

    We pulled the heads and valves today, all clerances are good. He was unaware of any issues. The first issue was found when he bought the engine from a buddy, ran a comp. test and found the issue. This time it was found when installing a new intake. He did not notice anything.
     
  17. wonder what that was??? but hey my balls itch not unlike the crabs but more like lobsters!!!
    i wonder if any of my HAMB brothers can help me with that?? :D
     
  18. If the slot in the rocker is not long enough (not allowing enough movement) the pushrod will bend. Are you running a large cam or is it stock?

    With the heads back on (don't use new head gaskets, you aren't going to be firing the engine this way, just mocking it up so you can check stuff, you may need to pull the heads again) and the intake off and the valve covers off, turn it over SLOWLY by hand. There is something binding here and it should be fairly obvious. Just set the lifters, rockers and pushrods for one cylinder at a time and turn the engine over by hand.

    Did you use clay to check for valve to piston clearance? Did you remove the clay? Not making fun, anything is possible.
     
    Last edited: Jun 17, 2010
  19. erlomd
    Joined: Apr 26, 2008
    Posts: 1,212

    erlomd
    Member

    in the meantime try applying listerine....hey its an antiseptic....go get yourself diagnosed correctly though with your honkey ass doc! and wash your hands after scratching your balls!
     
  20. Self aligning rockers verses the old style. Rocker needs to match the type of head >>>>.
     
  21. Vandy
    Joined: Nov 15, 2009
    Posts: 368

    Vandy
    Member
    from L.A. Ca

    Speaking of rockers, you do know that with early heads you can use late or early rockers but with late (86 & newer) heads you must use late rockers if the pushrod hole in the head is round & not slotted.
    Van
     
  22. That is certainly possible...I just assumed the shortblock was Vortec and the heads (rockers included) were old style. That would be a nice easy fix, hope you're right. So hard to diagnose when it isn't right there in front of you.

    Sorry Vandy...I got this in before I saw your post. That is interesting, one of these possibilites has to solve their problems.
     
    Last edited: Jun 17, 2010

Share This Page

Register now to get rid of these ads!

Archive

Copyright © 1995-2021 The Jalopy Journal: Steal our stuff, we'll kick your teeth in. Terms of Service. Privacy Policy.

Atomic Industry
Forum software by XenForo™ ©2010-2014 XenForo Ltd.