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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by koolkemp, Apr 17, 2010.

  1. BigSlick
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    Outstanding!!!
     
  2. Rickybop
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    Wow...you're fearless. I've been waiting to see you chop it. Lookin' goooood.
     
  3. fitzee
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    Nice work.post like these make me want to start chopping something.
     
  4. GizmoJoe
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    Man... With guys like Rikster helping out with great ideas and pics, this is going to even more killer.

    BTW.. the electrolysis works well. Like everything else it has it's place. I still like Evapo-Rust though.
     
  5. Hackerbilt
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    Excellent excellent job!
    Fitzee and I look forward to seeing the car next weekend. Maybe we can get a run in it!
    Should be done and painted by then the way your going...hahaha

    Looks great now and with the little tweeks you'll be making as you go it'll be killer.
     
  6. koolkemp
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    Thanks for all the comments guys it gets to be more fun after yet another obstacle is overcome! B pillars will stay straight, never seen a 41-48 done with them back in the day , and I will round the tops of the doors like the De Valle car and probably the bottoms as well and trunk corners too. I will get those pics done for you today Rik, you can post them directly to the thread or pm me which ever you prefer !
     
  7. Stefan T
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    You are good sheet metal guy

    Verry nice done.
    Keep up and you have a nice ready car soon

    /Stefan
     
  8. Rikster
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    Has been done... and looks good. But I still prefer the B-pillars straight.

    Photo from the Barris Kustom City site...

    1947 Mercury by Barris for Cliff Rockohn

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  9. aldixie
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    Great Work. I would of looked at that car at the start and said no way.
     
  10. need louvers ?
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    Ya, I have to agree that the stock length on the windows would go a long way to making this a little more cohesive. Please understand that I think it looks great as it is, and I'm sure not cutting down his tons of work, I've just always thought that this chop could be improved. I saw in one of the earlier pictures a section of the old fordor quarter windows that could be a source for the new. might make the whole process easier to do, and seemed to have the right contours. Possibly grafting this into the right space might be a better solution. As far as the slanted pillars go, If we're talking history, this build would have been just on the cusp of when the Barris brothers and the Ayalas started with the massive reshaping of this stuff. I thought about it a little last night and remembered that he ended up with several doors during the switching around and collection phase - how about using the front tops of another pair of doors? Not necessarily slanted, but would work better with roundness these car take on when the drip rails are pared away. Ah... It's all just armchair quarterbacking from here anyways! It's going to be cool any way it ends up.
     
  11. amazing work, you need to radius the corners of the doors...if you havent seen Dice K's Ford Coupe it's perfect to me except the doors need to be rounded they look out of place square to me
     
  12. I don't know if this will help you or not with the 1/4 windows. I have scanned some photo's from the late 80's I took of this car after I finished it.

    The owner had the '48 chopped by Doug Thompson in the mid 80's. The owner then had me do the rest of the work.

    It was a pleasure to meet and go to Doug's shop. He was a very friendly person to talk to and gave me lots of advice while I was building the coupe.

    I think he is one of the best customizers ever.
     

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  13. Rikster
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    WOW that is a great car... of coarse its a short door coupe with much different proportions that need a different approach. But no matter what... that is a fantastic custom. I'm a big fan of Doughs work and I had never seen this one before. He did a great job on the chop, and you on the rest of the work... if you have more photos of it... please scan and post.

    Thanks you
     
  14. koolkemp
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    I agree 100% Dougs work is fantastic, I dont know if I have ever seen the business coupe above before though , do you know its whereabouts today?
     
  15. koolkemp
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    I sent the pics to you Rik ...work your magic , let me know if you need anything else.
     
  16. I apologize for overlooking the fact that your car is a long door coupe. I was so drawn in by your 1/4 window question I didn't stop to think about the difference in the doors.

    Rikster is correct...... 2 different cars...... completely.

    I'll see if the original customer has any more pictures. He sold it in the 90's. I have no idea where it went.

    I was in my early 30's when I did the car and never thought about taking pictures of cars that I was working on. You are doing a great job on documenting your build with pictures and text.

    Didn't mean to butt into your thread. You are doing a fantastic job.

    Kustoms are King.
     
  17. Mr.Musico
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    Great job, I missed this thread somehow- looks great so far
     
  18. koolkemp
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    Well Rikster worked his magic and man does it look cool !! He did a whole bunch of pics for me , I used some masking tape on the body Marked every inch , same with the quarter windows from the 4 door roof so everything could be kept in scale ! Hes even gonna make me a scale template that I can use as a guide , cant thank you enough Rik! So what do the rest of ya think? heres a cleaned up before pic and an after pic with the new quarter window shape ( even has rounded door tops !

    Before

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    After with the new shape, I think it looks way better, really flows with the roof and the proportions of the C pillar are perfect!

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    I meant to ask you Rik do you know what colors any of the orig cars were? Ie the De Valle car , Lopez, or Gils car ?
     
  19. Kreepea_1
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    Yeah, the redo does look better.
     
  20. superchiicken
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    Do it. Do it. Do it.! ( chanting ).
     
  21. GizmoJoe
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    Very nice.
    The longer window really flows much better.
    May I suggest that you only tack things in until they are photo-shopped by him first??
    Could save you lots of time and money with the cut-weld-re-cut-re-weld!!! ;)

    Hot enough there today?
     
  22. koolkemp
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    Lol not too bad was pretty cloudy all day remember I am used to the stinking hot humid Ottawa weather this stuffs a breeze ! Its still only tacked together so it wont be much trouble re-doing it but I will certainly ask Rik if he can work his magic before anything is welded solid.
     
  23. GizmoJoe
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    Wow... sure wasn't cloudy in New Minas. I had to make a day-run up there. 35c around 2:00.
    Glad you are in "cool" NS?
    You know.. I'm getting kinda tired of telling you how good that thing looks. ;)
    Seriously though.. the "little" changes like this will put this car over the top even more.
     
  24. koolkemp
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    Thanks Joe!! I am getting pretty excited about the whole thing, and Riksters work is really showing me the potential the car has ! It was still foggy in Halifax today till about lunchtime didnt see any sun till well after lunch what a difference an hour makes eh ! Fred said hes comin to Moncton this week with a duece, you gonna be able to take it in??
     
  25. koolkemp
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    Iwill will will (chanting back ):D
     
  26. koolkemp
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    Rikster is the man without his input I would prolly have it all welded up by now:eek:
     
  27. GizmoJoe
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    Excited? I bet you are!

    No Moncton for me :( :mad:
    You?

    I'm really glad that Fred will get there. And to be going in Bud's 32 will be a major plus as well. If you get to see it.. do!
    I've told him to take pictures of the show.
     
  28. need louvers ?
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    Much much better! I have to say that the lofting of that rear window section is amongst the best I've ever seen. That is no small deal... One last suggestion and I'll shut up... One of the things I liked best about Foose's car is the lack of skirts. In my mind they just make the back of a car look so vertical and "blocky". I know that to custom guys they seem to be manditory, but they look so good without. I think it was it was Valley custom that pretty much refused to do them on a car, so there is allot of historic precedent. Consider that my.04 - back to watching in awe.
     
  29. Rikster
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    Thanks Need Louvers.

    And I do have to agree with you on the skirts making the back of the car blocky and squire... In my book there are two ways to "overcome" this "problem". First will be using the long 1941 Ford/Mercury skirts. Or scratch built them according the lines of those (should not be any problem for Steve). Second option - one which I always prefer - is adding a stainless steel stone-guard to the rear fenders. The lines on those make the rear fender skirt combination visually more round.

    Bob Drake makes them


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    Last edited: Jul 6, 2010
  30. Rikster
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    Here are a few more steps from the Photoshop process.

    This is the photos that I started with...

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    The photo below photo shows the new rear quarter window shape with the old Photoshopped "Finished" window still in place.
    It also shows the one inch measuring blocks and the red line shows the actual top of the roof shape lowered vertically. The new shape of the side window bends down faster than the shape of the roof making the C-Pillar a bit wider towards the back/belt-line. Something which is obvious if you look at it very good, but not really to noticeable. But it is a crucial step in creating the perfect flow and to make at all pleasing for the eye. If the side windows would have been longer the whole top would have looked out of proportion. And the c-pillar would have looked strangely thin.
    The rear quarter window now ends in line with the beginning of the rear fender.

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    And this one shows the difference between the unchopped and chopped quarter window...

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    Last edited: Jul 6, 2010
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