they want a weight cert for my panel --is there anyway i can get around this so i can register it i am in thousand oaks ,ca. thanks scott
why do they want the weight? getting a certified weight isn't that hard to get, find the nearest co-op or truck stop with scales and have it weighed
It's a commercial vehicle - no way around it. As crapshoot says take it to a truck or public weigh scale scale to get it weighed, take printout to DMV. Okay edit: you added that it is not drivable - then either wait until it is and transfer it for now as title only or borrow a truck and trailer.
He can't. he has to have a certified weight slip showing VIN or License number to get title for a commercial vehicle. If it were a sedan delivery you can get it registered as a car, but panels are commercial and they charge registration based on weight for all commercial vehicles in CA
Exactly, had the same issue on my 49 Ford COE. Needed to have a certified weight certificate. I think there is an exception for older trucks (1937 and earlier???).
Do you mean the panel in the picture? The last time I assumed a person was talking about the vehicle in his picture I was wrong. If it is pre 1936 you can register it as a passenger car. It is buried deep in the vehicle code but it is there. My 1931 RDPU is registered as a passenger vehicle. I used to date a girl from AAA and she showed me where it was in the vehicle code. I am not sure about hauling stuff in the back of a pre 1936 commercial vehicle registered as a passenger vehicle. The law isn't clear on that point. You can find a copy of the vehicle code in the library. Charlie Stephens
The weight determines the cost of the registration for trucks and commercial vehicles used in commerce. Unless you plan on using this as a shop truck, I'd go for a specialty registration, like an antique, classic, collectible, etc.
heres what i found on the CA dmv website http://www.dmv.ca.gov/commercial/cvra.htm Commercial Vehicle Registration Act (CVRA) The Commercial Vehicle Registration Act (CVRA) changed the way the Department of Motor Vehicles registers commercial motor vehicles and some trailers. Which vehicles are affected? This law affects: Commercial motor vehicles with a declared gross vehicle weight (GVW) or combined gross vehicle weight (CGW) of 10,001 lbs. or more. Most trailers (for example, semi-trailers, boat trailers, utility trailers, or horse trailers.) Which vehicles are NOT affected? The following commercial motor vehicles are not affected: Pickups, even though a pickup can operate over 10,000 GVW. Light-weight trucks and vans if the declared GVW or CGW is 10,000 lbs. or less. Taxis and rental limousines (which include charter-party carriers operating limousines that pick up and deliver airport passengers) if the declared GVW is 10,000 or less. NOTE: Weight fees for the above vehicles (not including trailers) will continue to be based on the unladen weight.
Find a cool tow truck driver thats willing to tow it, take it off the hitch and onto the scale, then tow it back?
The collector car or Antique type plate in California has severe limits on how much you can drive it and it for Stock type vehicles. I know there are plenty of rods registered with them here, but i also know a guy who got a ticket and had his Antique plate pulled by DMV - something about a Blown Hemi not being stock in a T Bucket
This is probably the easiest way to find a Certified scales close to you. http://www.dmvscales.org/ Old rides dot com has pages that show the specs on various vehicles 50 AD series trucks here. http://www.oldride.com/library/1950_chevrolet_3100.html Still as the guys said, you will have to get the panel to a scales that can weigh it and print out a certified weight slip. That usually costs under ten bucks at a truck stop. I see three truck stops with Cat scales in that area http://catscale.findlocation.com/results.aspx Hunt a bit as there may be a certified truck scales a lot closer than that to you. This shows pretty much all public truck scales in the area. http://www.bigrigjobs.com/Truck-Scal...sand_Oaks.html And yes it is a commercial vehicle which means that you have to pay tonnage on it. No windows or back seat like a suburban. I even have to pay tonnage on my 85 Dodge Mini Ram van as it is listed as a commercial vehicle.
You have no choice but to get somebody with a roll back tow truck take it to the scales unload,weight reload and be done with it,too much trouble doing it with a trailer seeing that it doesn"t run,hey man at least you are able to get it registered.with the DMV being real assholes in other states you are getting off lite.
I put my '55 F100 on a rigid diet, lost the 6-way power seat, dropped in a 350 Chev w/ aluminum 350 T.H., changed to Monoleaf springs. Got a weight cert for 2975 lbs., under 3,000#, right? The jerk lady at DMV said after the paperwork was done, I'd still be charged the weight fee. ????? Getting a straight answer there is as bad as asking for the truth in Washington D.C.! Registration is coming back up in November, might try the small DMV in Turlock. (friendlier there)
Carnut.com has a lot of factory weights and other dimensions listed for a lot of cars. Maybe original weight documentation, say from a shop manual, might be sufficient?
Weight fee is for the tonnage that it "supposedly" can legally carry. All trucks except those with antique or vintage plates pay a "weight" or tonnage fee along with the regular fees on the tabs. It doesn't matter if you have a polished oak bed in the truck and it will never ever carryanything except a soft sided duffel bag and a cooler. But you can often get the tonnage reduced to the minimum if you don't ever haul or tow anything. My 48 is shown as a 1/4 ton which is the minimum tonnage in this state.
You are close to Camarillo, there are many truck scales there with all the produce going in and out. You need a weighmaster certificate, almost any truck scale will help you. If you get stuck finidng one call Gibbs International in camarillo, they will know where one is close by. Bryan
Not just CA... HI does the same... unless it's already reg'd here. My 46 weighs in at 3160 according to the scale reading when it came to HI
Bolt in a seat in the back its a Station Wagon, Put a bed and a porta potty in the back and it is a Motorhome. They will change the title from Commercial truck to Car or Motorhome if you ask
best idea yet, what about those really nice seats they put in minivans, the ones that pop off the tracks? anyway to put a set of tracks in there and a seat? that way when it's done, you can also have more then two people ride, if you want to go hang out and cruise with your buddies. I think some of those vans, the entire track assembly comes off in one piece, get one of those and the seats. just an idea for the future
that is what i am going to do put a seat in the back and have inspected again see what happens then if not then i guess to the scales i go thanks for the help guys
Your panel van looks like a 1 ton long wheelbase truck. Shipped weight on that vehicle is only 4220 lbs. The Max GVW on that truck is 6,700 lbs. Both of these weights are far below the 10,001 lb. weight requirement to be considered a commercial vehicle. Looks like DMV is trying to bamboozle you into thinking your truck is a commercial vehicle when it is not.
Nah, he's not getting bamboozled. That 10 thou thing that someone posted has to do with a heavier class of commercial. It is more of a motor carrier of property thing. In Ca, an Astro van is commercial and pays weight fees. For the "housecar" exemption it would need a sink with water supply and holding tank, toilet with holding tank, and cooking facility. Bryan
I gather bringing in a copy of "Standard Guide to Chevrolet Trucks" which shows the delivery weight in it, won't work? I always figured to do that here with the next one I registered without paperwork, but NYS is more generous in what they'll do - I've had clerks use the VIN/serial to look up someone else's same year-same make car and use the weight from that if I don't have one. Otherwise, when I had a trailer weighed on a Caterpiller Certified Scale, it cost me nine bucks -
My '29A CCPU is considered commercial in CA. Not too sure what business they think I am going to do with the now 38" bed, but there it is. Think of it as a bonus. You can park in commercial loading zones and not get a ticket! There is no way around it. Get it to a scale somehow. U-Haul and a trailer are an option. There are certified scales everywhere you find trucks, so like everywhere.
Are you planning on driving it soon? Maybe it can be registered non-op without the weight certificate. Consider calling the main DMV office in Sacramento to get the straight scoop.
To get around the weight cert, you would have to install seats to be able to register as a passenger vehicle. You would have to have it verified by DMV. The easiest thing to do is just register it commercial. 3.030 Conversion from Commercial to Auto License Plates (CVC §465) The vehicle owner may exchange the commercial license plates assigned to the vehicle for auto license plates on the following passenger-type vehicles: Passenger vehicles that do not transport persons "for hire." Station wagons. Pickup trucks with a camper permanently attached. Vans modified for human habitation. Multi-purpose vehicles. Clearance Requirements - The requirements for converting from commercial to auto plates are: The Certificate of Title. A Miscellaneous Certifications - Certification of Vehicle for Human Habitation (REG 256) completed by the applicant if the vehicle is a pickup with a camper attached or a van modified for human habitation.
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