Crappy work from Winfields Rod and Custom

Somebody has been mislead. Everybody that chops tops uses filler.

 

Jesus Christ, Just contact the Guy already and quit talkin about it! All this shit and everyones posts are all based on speculation. This thread should have never been started until he talked with Gene personally. So quit saying "Whats done is done" grow some balls and call the guy for fuck sake!

 

I agree. Do it one on one. Lippy

 

Did someone copy this thread from Yellow Bullet's trashed or be trashed section?

 

I see that this work done, is great for a driver quality car. Some more filler, putty, alot of primer and even more quality time block sanding would let you have nice shiny smooth paint. Then drive the car to any and all car events that you can make time to attend. Have fun with the custom car. Yet, if you are wanting a stunner car show quality custom. There is a large amount of rework, and work that just needs to be done the first time. Just to get it to a point where filler can then be started to being applied.

This week end I looked over the "Emerald Tide" show pickup really well at the KKOA event in Salina, KS. NOW, that is some highly skilled metal work ! I might say ! ! !

 

i was an i.s.c.a. judge for 30 years. anyway at the same time as the cool 50 merc made the show circut there was a 50-51 pontiac limo. this must of been in the early80s anyway one of the back doors must of weighed 1000 lbs.it lookedgood with paint on it. also if you look thru one of the 4 barris cutoms book you see him brazing yes brazing a headlight . how good does glass stick to braze? mike

 

I just hate the whole "before you bash him see what hes gonna do" thing,

so if he gets his money back he should shut up and let other people have a bad experience?

There just too much shit like that going on, thats why i hate lawyers and shit like that, well just give you some money to shut up even thou you kid was molested right, its bullshit.

this guys and everyones opinion should be here or somwhere for other people to make their decisions from, theres good and bad about Gene in this post, thats the way it is.

jeff

 

1950 standard - victor oxy/ac torch , hammer/dolly, lead , big grinders, hacksaw, braze, etc.

2010 standard - tig, sheetmetal mig, h/d, english wheel, 045 cutting discs, rage-filler etc.

The lines could come out the same but the process and metal finishing are totally different.


TP

 

I think if it were me someone was talking about...I would be defending something by now? Too bad on the work , needs to be addressed in person and find out what the heck was going on?

 

I don't think he said Gene told him to F-off. You might re-read the posts

 

If the man showed the photos, and told everyone this is the work of the guy down the street everyone would say the work was bad and he was screwed.
everyone would be saying he went for the low ball price and got what he paid for.
The guy go's with a Top name, and spends top bucks, waits a long time and ends up with this quality?

 

Lets be clear guys, I would say that this quoted post from the first page states that he did try and speak with Gene and was unsuccessful.

I don't blame him one bit for posting this up. Someone above said that if it was someone other than a hot rod legend everyone would be saying to string them up by his nuts. That couldn't be more true.

 

Quoted for truth.

 

@ Brickster...
You are correct I read wrong... he said IF... my mistake

 

Gene's at Salina this weekend.

 

I disagree , the man PAID for a job which by reputation should have better standards. I build houses and any one at any time can post pictures of anything I have ever done any freaking time they want.It's theirs and they own it and can post at will.

 

That is correct, In his defense. He will not have time to reply anytime soon.

 

That is exactly the kind of crap that needs to stop. The baseball star can hit women because he's a baseball star, the singer can molest children because he's a singer, the renowned custom car builder legend can rip people off with shoddy work because of his history, etc... how about some accountability? It sounds like the shop gave the customer his money back already but that doesn't stop the shop from ripping the next guy off. Maybe a thread like this one will stop that next guy from getting ripped off at that shop. That work is total crap.

 

Looking for? Needing? It is a problem between you ( the customer) and the shop owner. To air it here, BEFORE a reasonable response from thee man is lame.

 

More than likely Gene didn't actually do the work. He has employees you know.

 

I will back up the OP, it is SHITTY work out of GENE WINFIELDS SHOP. Several of us have called out bad work by him and other "masters" in the past only to have the ball lickers defend said masters. It is time for the HERO WORSHIP to stop. Gene sent out sub-par work, period.

 

I'M sure he cashed the check , his shop / his work period.

 

I love all these do gooder's on here. You weren't the one who got screwed on a job. This guy pays money and all you have to say is "You should contact Gene first..." Fuck that. Any one who attacks this guy should reimburse him his money then YOU go talk to Gene and get your money back. That job is horrible. Anyone want to ask if I can do it better? I can. The chop on my car was the first one I or my friend had ever done and it is way better than that.

It is obvious Gene didn't personally handle the work. Pick up a rod and kulture and you can see a tech section on a chop he did and it is obviously way better. The responsibility ultimately lies with him. You can't be the king and then when one of your guys messes up say "well that wasn't me". If you're cashing the checks its your problem when this happens.

 

After all this I want someone to tell me again , please say it one more time so I can fall down laughing, please stand up and shout it out like I know you can , YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR !!!! Another instance where that shit don't work..

 

I can't comment on Gene's work, but I can on old, custom body work. For a couple years in the middle 70's, I worked for Vintage Auto Shop in Arlington Heights, north of Cincinnati. It was mostly english stuff [Rolls, Jag, Etc] with some 30's Cad and Packard. I was appalled at times to discover that the great old custom body builders like Gurney Nutting [but not Brewster - the best] had loads of a plaster like filler, shaped to perfection, over primitive gas welds in both steel and aluminum. At one time, I spent weeks shrinking, hammering, dollying, and vixen filing peaks in a pair of Type 57 Bugatti front fenders, after they been annealed, because the originals were so crude. Vintage had been doing this for 20 years before I got there, and used a filler called All-Metal all the time. They had not perfected techniques to perfectly metal finish repairs, and had no problems with filler and primer. They had a car at Pebble Beach that did quite well in '78. Times have changed, but old world techniques produce old world results.

 

Well put, Tman.

Maybe its just my line of work, but all the words that come out of peoples mouths don't mean half as much to me as their actions.

That car was chopped at Winfield's shop, and those photos tell the story better than Gene or anybody else could. Words don't change facts.

The HAMB isn't the right place for sacred cows.

The fact is, for a *lot* of money, and a year, that is the chop he got.

That's the long and the short of it.

 

I understand it's his shop. however, if he's not there he can't exactly oversee what his workers are doing. I mean am I'm wrong?

 

I think the heads are up the asses of those who bash the guy for voicing his bad experience, or as other's call it, "bashing Winfield."

Pot and kettle, anyone?

 

Some of you guys must have an extra set of hands. How can you pleasure Gene Winfield and type at the same time?

 

If the car was there a year...Gene had the opportunity to see what was being done.

I would like to hear how this turns out for all involved.

Neal