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History Photos taken before WW2 - history in black and white

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  1. T-Head
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    I have a 6-70 Thomas here in the shop (as in photo 3) and compared some things last night and there are differences in the already mentioned things I brought up yesterday and ehdubya also noticed them.....Radiator & hood. I have been studing chassis details as that is all we can really go by and there are differences.

    The original photo is good but not to blow up and see little things we could use for a positive ID. From what I can already see I don't think is is unless we can come up with a higher resolution photo I can look at more chassis details on.......
     

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  2. jimi'shemi291
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    Cutline said these were Badger trucks, but I'm not so sure of the one at left. And the one at right has some interesting tires, quite unlike the solids at left. Guys??? (Pic is THANKS to American-Automobiles.com!)
     
  3. T-Head
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    Is this guy holding flowers on his Willys-Knight because it died??
     

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  4. jimi'shemi291
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    1924 Studebaker BIG SIX and the little boy & girl
    seem to be having a blast just sort of "hanging
    out"! Potent 353-CID mill w. 5" stroke and roomy
    126-inch wheelbase. Cool ride AND a Bi-Flex bumper
    to boot for the moderate price of $2,400. THANKS
    is due the Surrey Vintage Vehicle Society!
     
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  6. T-Head
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    Check out the lamps on the little roadster in this photo taken in the UK??
     

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  7. twin6
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    Hook and ladder company in a parade, location unknown.
     

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  8. twin6
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    Kids!
     

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  9. T-Head
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    Thomas also sold their 6-70 automobile chassis with stiffer springs and bigger wheels and tires to fire truck builders. This must be a new one being delivered in front of the dealers store front in Salt Lake City. USHS photo.
     

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  10. MrFire
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    Exerpt about FWD's;

    The Four Wheel Drive Auto Co., FWD, was formed by Zachow and Besserdich, initially under the name of Badger, and selling its first 4X4 car <NOBR>in 1911 [Bal87]</NOBR>.
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    Besserdich went on to help start another famous 4X4 truck company that came to be known after the town of Oshkosh.
    The first world war gave FWD's fortunes a boost with many of their 4X4 trucks being used by the US and British armies. The truck pictured (right) is an FWD model B of 1917, serial number 3002, held by the Imperial War Museum (UK). Forward control was required to give the drivers a better view of the road close to the front wheels.

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    Engine: Wisconsin 4-cyl petrol 56bhp,
    chassis weight: 6200lbs,
    loa:215", width:70.5", height:89".
    Note the solid rubber tyres! The ride must be rough beyond description; just give the drivers of past years a moment's thought when you are debating whether to fit Super Swampers or Desert Duellers to your own truck.
    The transfer case with propeller shafts to the front and rear live axles can be clearly seen on the left hand side of the truck. The transfer case provided part-time four wheel drive and high and low ratios.
    - L_A11ison
     
  11. MrFire
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    US Army FWD truck built in Clintonville, Wisconsin, but right hand drive:

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  12. ehdubya
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    The car on the top left is getting up to the size of the 'B' car.
     

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  13. T-Head
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    A few Sterlings, a shaft drive and two chain drives.....
     

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  14. MrFire
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    Don't know what makes/models these are:

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  16. MrFire
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    Australian Army Service Corps 1918 Thornycroft truck:

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  17. MrFire
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    Australian Army 1931 Albion truck:

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  18. MrFire
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    Australian Army 1933 Albion truck:

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  19. MrFire
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    Mack EXBX Tank Transporter - (easily lifted by 1 man for ease of unloading :confused: :)):


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  20. ehdubya
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    They were also built under license by Kissel .Mitchell and Premier and the US Army ended up with around 15000 surplus after the war causing a glut in the US and European markets.
     
  21. jimi'shemi291
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    You have to love this holdup/shootout scene
    from the mid-'30s, rife with vintage autos.
    ANYBODY WANNA DATE AND TYPE THESE???
    This is THANKS to PackardInfo.com and is
    housed in the Detroit Public Library, National
    Automotive History Collection.
     
  22. jimi'shemi291
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    Color magazine ad from 1919, thanks to Chuck's Toyland site. Isn't this one sweet early illustration? Just reeks of automotive nostalgia!
     
  23. SUNROOFCORD
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    ZIS 102, a pre-war Russian Superior Class Phaeton.
     

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    1913 Cadillac Model 30 really doing its thing: TOURING in Arizona! Jim Ehlers of Lake City, FL, posted these with the Surrey Vintage Vehicle Society, and THANKS are due both! The pix were from Jim's grandparent and were shot near Globe, AZ. SVVS member Tim Harding ID'd the car -- not easy since Caddy made this model for years.
     
  25. SUNROOFCORD
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    1938 Gaz 60 Russian Half Track
     

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  26. jimi'shemi291
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    SunRoof, thanks for the pic of the pre-war ZIS ! Mostly what I see is the post-war models based on the Packard dies Roosevelt pressed Packard to donate to the Soviets in the dark days of the war.

    Is it just me, or does it appear the Russians were sort of imitating Cadillac in that pre-war model?
     
  27. SUNROOFCORD
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    1939 ZIS 101-A Sport from the USSR
     

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    Looks more Mopar Like to me, 1938 Chrysler-Desoto. Although, the front fenders do have a GM flair to them.
     
  29. jimi'shemi291
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    I've always felt that one of Hilter's biggest blunders was in under-estimating the American, Russian, British, Australian, etc., capacities not only to fight BUT to produce a groundswell of engineering and industrial might, as well! The Wer Macht invincible? NOT!

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  30. jimi'shemi291
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    Yup, now you mention it, Chrysler/DeSoto it is!

    Hey, but THIS is one sweet machine! Never saw this before. WOW. needs a dashing Omar Sharii sitting in it, top down!

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