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History Photos taken before WW2 - history in black and white

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by twin6, Jun 13, 2010.

  1. jimi'shemi291
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    MrFire, you've been posting some FAB stuff, mate!
    I think ehdubya would agree on this one: LOOKS
    like one of the "Magnificent 'even" showing off his
    muscles for the camera! LOL
     

  2. Damn that is one sexy car! I could almost see it on its guts tearing across the salt.......

    Doc.
     
  3. jimi'shemi291
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    You said it, Doc! In a different vein, here's former
    U.S. President Woodrow Wilson in a fourth-series
    Packard Twin Six for a parade.

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  4. spooler41
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    Post #2423, This looks like a Buick/ Pontiac blend,about 1938. It has '38 Buick front sheet metal, but what looks like a Pontiac,Indian hood trim.

    Jack
     
  5. SUNROOFCORD
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    I thought the front fenders looked Buick too, especially the parking lights. You may be correct looking at this comparison of a '38 Pontiac front end and a 1938 Chrysler.
     

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    So Twin6, how did I do?
     
  7. SUNROOFCORD
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    1937 Australia
     

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    Mr. Liebow and his Chrysler car, circa 1924, possibly the first Chrysler car in Western Australia
     

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  9. twin6
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    LOL! I haven't a CLUE, and from the lack of responses, I gather others are stumped also. That acetylene spotlight and overall look made me think this was earlier than 1912. You might be the winner, T - perhaps someone who knows Morgans will chime in and remove all doubt. Remember, when mystery pix get posted, more often than not the folks posting them don't know the real answer. I wish I knew 10% of them....
     
  10. jimi'shemi291
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    Jim-Bo, I don't doubt that. Wasn't '24 officially
    the first year after Walt phaased out the Chalmers
    and started making Chryslers on the same line?
    Honest question, as I'm not clear on the details.

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  11. twin6
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    Something good is cooking at EG's place (or is it a card game?)...
     

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    Civilian Conservation Corps lads and truck, in the 1930's.
     

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  13. jimi'shemi291
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    T-6 said: "I wish I knew 10% of them.... "

    Jimi laments: Me too, my simian friend! I'd sure get more to eat if I could. BUT, isn't that the fun of the super-early stuff? Mostly, the early pix aren't clear enough in detail. Makes it MORE than challenging! Excruciating would be more like it!!!

    Heck, we still haven't nailed down that long-nosed pre-WWI brute the lady is driving, though at least six or eight makes have been tried! LOL (Just makes you want to KNOW all the worse!)<!-- / message -->
     
  14. twin6
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    True, and we all learn by sharing our ideas, even when we don't have the right answer. Much more fun than these guys had - 1908 Buick wreck in Massachusetts.
     

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    :D Damn! I was hopin' I won the bananas! This car is defiantly a 1912 or 1913 Morgan Sports Runabout...here are some "evidence" shots. The maroon car is a 1912 Runabout..due to the more "square" body design, complete with doors. The B&W is of a 1913 Sports Runabout which uses a much rounded/sleeker racing style body that is void of doors and an optional windshield.

    In keeping with the spirit of this thread, I have posted a link to the 1912 Morgan photo, as it is a modern picture and does not fit the criteria:

    http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2515/4179265029_430244299d.jpg
     

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  16. twin6
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    Packard had 3 series of twin sixes spanning the model years 1916 through 1923. The Prez is in a 3rd series twin touring car, just like this guy: Nicholas Longworth, Speaker of the House, married to Alice Roosevelt, TR's daughter. There's a funny story about Longworth -- I've heard several versions, and the one at wiki is good:

    One day, while lounging in a chair at the Capitol, another member of the House ran his hand over Longworth's bald pate and commented, "Nice and smooth. Feels just like my wife's bottom." Longworth felt his own head and returned an answer: "Yes, so it does."

    Only on the HAMB...
     

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    Definitely no bananas with modern pix here. No soup, no nuts...
     
  18. jimi'shemi291
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    T-6, good catch! And thanks for correcting it so fast. I was quoting the source, BUT that's why we have a GROUP here to bring their cumulative expertise. THANKS again!
     
  19. MrModelT
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    I would like to appeal that ruling if I may your honor. The "new" photo is only offered as evidence of proof to support my claim in identifying the mystery machine you posted previously and is therefor is not intended as an official contribution to this thread. The second photo offered as evidence was a period photo from 1913, fitting within the pre-1939 criteria for this thread.

    I am a strong supporter of this threads criteria and guidelines, but sometimes they must be bent or broken to prove a point.

    Thank you your honor. :D
     
  20. swi66
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    The "B" hubcaps?
    JC Whitney of course!

    Maybe a custom touch someone made for the car.
    Maybe to personalize the car for someone.
    Lot of that going on back in the day, especially with the higher end cars.

    So much of that car resembles the Great Race Thomas.
    And what differences can a year or two make?

    The cowl area is what really strikes me.
    Don't see many others with that specific shape, and body line.

    The hood and radiator?
    I really don't think we have enough of a good view to nail that down.
    They appear different, wish we had a straight on shot.
     
  21. twin6
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    I understand. There are a couple forces at work here. On the one hand, we've been trying since day 1 to make this thread different from others by posting only photos taken before WW2, and that's admittedly hard to do. On the other, we're all human and one irresistible drive we all have is to post photos from the more modern era to connect with the older ones - I call it the "then and now" type posts. Those are common on virtually every other thread on the HAMB. I participate in those threads when I've got material like that, and I love making those old/new photo links as much as anyone. It's not that there's anything inherently wrong or bad about the post war photos. But they do change the basic principle we started this with, and the more of them posted, the more this thread shifts away from what sets it apart, and what draws followers here. From the posted comments and ones I've gotten by PM, the support has been for keeping the unique and basic rule we started with. One way around posting a new photo but still making that old/new connection, is to include a link to a source where the new photo can be viewed. Some posts have already done this, and it seem quite workable, without bending or breaking anything. Bananas on me, T - Morgan it is (I guess)! Please - all - keep posting the great pix.
     
  22. twin6
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    Lozier, c. 1911. Heavy drool factor.
     

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  23. twin6
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    This would have been a decent photo of a couple sedans if it hadn't been for this mob....
     

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  24. twin6
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    The bad guys are in a 6th series Packard 8 (1929), with some accessories: single Pilot Ray light, monogram badge, Adonis radiator cap, windwings, horns, metal sidemount covers, and bumperettes (?). Strange chrome treatment in front of the radiator too. Very hard to say if it's a touring or phaeton - I am going with phaeton, with the shorter windshield - or if it's a standard 8 or super 8. They bad.
     
  25. MrModelT
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    "I must concur, good Suh!" You sure make a good closing argument :D

    This is a wonderful thread and I find the criteria/guidelines quite refreshing and a good challenge. It was rather "rebellious" of me to have posted such a "new" photo here...shame on me! :(

    So, in a gesture of good faith I have removed the "new" photo and replaced it with a link to the same before mentioned photo.

    ...can't say I'm not a team player :D

    T
     
  26. T-Head
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    Which brings up a good point the "B" could be from outside of the US....
     
  27. twin6
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    Like this? Someone sent me this ages ago, labeled "Berloit" which (if correct) must be furrin...
     

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  28. MrModelT
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    I don't think the mystery "B" car is "furrin"....just does not have that "European look". The picture you posted isn't "furrin" either...it is actually a 1906 Peirce "Great Arrow" touring. I offer you this link as evidence:

    http://www.pierce-arrow.org/annualmeet/meet01/GreatArrow.jpg

    Mr.T
     
  29. jimi'shemi291
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    T-6, you're sure earning yer banana today! Conducting court and stuff. We should call you Judge Joe! LOL

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    Talk about intriguing, T-6. Several things going for it. Big mutha-humpa for one, and rich Americans loved the panache of importing a foreign car. The four lights are pretty similar. Length of the hood comes closer than most others we've looked at. Appears to be right drive. Wasn't mama's car with 10-spoke wheels, though? And from this pic, I can't be sure: Is the radiator PAINTED, rather than bare, polished brass?
     
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