History Auto racing 1894-1942

I have found in a digital newspaper an article that says the winner of the race did so with Studebaker


27 frebuary 1922
Buenos Aires - Rosario - Buenos Aires,
700 miles of bad road;
10 hours 23 m. 51 seconds,
in competition with 22 cars and
among them, two Lancia, 2 Packard,
2 Hudson, 2 Buick, a Cole and
A Cadillac.

this is the link http://hemeroteca.lavanguardia.es/preview/1920/10/27/pagina-28/33286531/pdf.html?search=hudson


I found varius Races in Argentina

started 5 JANUARY 1919: Began season with the traditional domestic car Chiesa Francisco Cup, organized by the Club Gimnasia y Esgrima in the path Rosario-Santa Fe-Rosario. It was the first time that Ford and Chevrolet brands competed with each other on the roads of Argentina. However, he won a Fiat driven by Juan Bautista Macchi.

On 06/01/1920 take another racing career organized by the "Club Gimnasia y Esgrima" Chiesa Cup by winning our representative Juan Masoero. The 2nd. edition of January 6, 1919 was won by John Macchi.

05/06/1921: The traditional dispute Mile Championship en route to La Plata. Within the different categories won Samuel Dorrego, Horacio Lacroze, Gordon Brown, Ricardo Fabini Borrat Angel Schoega and in category "Ladies," Elvira de Echazú (with a Nasch).

On 06.01.1921 took place the 4th. edition of the race car for the Cup Francisco Chiesa. The winner is the rider free Luis Riol.

On 21/01/1921 our representatives Mariano de la Fuente Juan Masoero ranked first and third respectively in the race Buenos Aires - Rosario - Buenos Aires by Osvaldo Magnasco Cup organized by the Argentine Automobile Club.

On 08/01/1922 the race is run again Rosario - Santa Fe - Rosario, claiming
Chiesa Cup final to top-ranked past winners, Mr. Jorge Cohen.

 

Click in the link and view photos and description of the history of de 500 millas argentinas

http://www.rafaela.com.ar/seccionesfijas/imagenes/ayer/autodromo/autodromo.htm

 

Ratamahata,

This subject is off topic for this forum but i will give you this link anyway if you want information of the Rafaela INDY 300 @ Autodromo de Rafaela - Feb. 28, 1971.

I think this is the only time the USAC held a championship race outside of the U.S.

Spanish version : http://autoracing.virgula.uol.com.br/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t49847,html

English version :http://translate.google.com.au/tran...om.br/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t49847.html

 

Two photos of the Bugatti driven by Jorge Perin and the Hudson driven by Raul Riganti on the "Los Toboganes" circuit in the town of Esperanza, Province of Santa Fe, Arg. Sept.3rd, 1928.

 

Load of good pre-war Morgan stuff here:

http://www.morgan3w.de/index.htm

I give T Head about 4 months to build himself a "Detroit"

 

Hope I'm not off topic here or covering old ground but am rather interested in the 1926,27 Delage 15 S8. I realize they didn't really feature in the US but I think one raced unsuccessfully in the Indianapolis 500 perhaps in the late 20s or early 30s. Does anyone know where the surviving cars are. I have searched the web and see one went up for auction in 2007 but generally not much available data or photos out there on these cars beyond coffee table info. Can any one help re photos, web sites, publication references etc.

 

Kume, Welcome to the HAMB. this Delage GP car is in the Coiler Collection in Florida, and is the former Briggs Cunningham car. I really liked the looks of it when Briggs owned it and the hood was engine turned, louvers and all. It is the same car that ran Indy in 1929 with Louis Chiron finishing in 7th place. That photo may have been taken at Lime Rock last Labor Day. The restoration is correct for the period with a flat finish to the paint.

 

The Dick Seaman-Guilio Ramponi modified car also claims to be the Chiron 29 Indy car. It wasn't running and didn't sell in 2007 so it came back down here to have the motor done. It sounds spine tingling nasty like an injected sprinter with an 8k redline the mechanics reckon is conservative, amazing considering the opposition were struggling at about half that.
I have a few pics on a 'bricked' hard drive I hope to recover, Kurtis and I posted some pics earlier in the thread.

 

Maybe a good time to put this in with the little bike engine cars

Not a racer but a little circus car w/4 cylinder Indian I think

 

I posted these in a Miller thread but didn't get a bite...




AR Image Gallery


I don't think those 2 pictures on the left behind the blue car display are Indy but some other brick surface.

 

If you look at the photo of the Chiron car at INDY it has a Bugatti steering box. I'll have to check the Cunningham owned era photos of the car, I remember the Bug box was on it at that time. The current restoration has Delage box. As to the Seaman car aren't there THREE cars made out of it, Chassis in one engine in a second and the other bits in the third?

 

Interesting that the Hudson is missing a rear wheel, but the knock-off is still in place!


Herb Kephart

 

Well spotted Herb. Looking at both photos i think there was some parts retrieving that took place before the cameraman snapped away.

 

Welcome to the Hamb.

There were four Factory Works cars built and three of these still exist. The other was used as parts at some stage after a crash. Prince Chula also had two chassis built in the 1930s and both exist today.

Go here for all the info you require:
http://forums.autosport.com/lofiversion/index.php/t63419.html

In regards to any publications go here:
www.delage-world.co.uk/publication.htm

Photos below from left to right:
1-1927 British GP @ Brooklands. Edmond Bourlier, Robert Benoist and Albert Divo.
2 & 3-1927 British GP. Robert Benoist.
4-1927 GP de l'ACF, Andre Morel.
5-1927 GP de l'ACF, Robert Benoist.
6-Andre Morel again and 7. is Louis Chiron at the 1929 Indy 500.

 

Ohhh you discovered me, i´m from Esperanza jajaja...

Between 1926 and 1929 those races were hold in the oval circuit located at the south of de town. That dirt track was about 18 km per lap, with straights of 7.km each one an two semi-circle curves. Was a semi-permanent track performed over public roads.

That circuit has no other name than "The Oval" and was performed by ESPERANZA AUTOMOVIL CLUB, and not lasted more than 1930, neither the circuit nor the club.

Afterwards, near 1945 born ESPERANZA MOTOR CLUB, and establish a new circuit, also a dirt track, but permanent and performed according actual features. Only 2.648 m per lap, three curves of diferents radius, and was located at the north of the city. This was called LOS TOBOGANES on account of the waves configurating the geographical features of the site


September 1928, coinciding with the Patronal fest was to be played the third test in this circuit and the expectation was the struggle between the protagonists of the race last year when Jorge Perin had set a record of 178 km / h and fraction of average Bucci against the team (which won) and with Hudson and Carlos Riganti, Zatuszek insisting starting with Mercedes and came to the fore.

The drivers lined up in rows of three, Juan zerba Balbi took the first place of the race with Delage, but soon he was got over by Perin, followed the first step for control Bucci, Riganti, Zatuszek, Desideri and Mestola. This time it involved a esperancino Aristides Robert, Spa-Castano the car that had crashed in 1926, he had purchased, modified and ran for the first time.

The poor visibility made the Bugatti of Perin crashed into the Hudson of Riganti, Bucci won the race again in Esperanza.



The city of Esperanza in that year...



This is Jorge Perín the pilot of the bugatti after the crashed...

 

Domingo Bucci Men of that old line of mechanical-experimenters-pilots, two-time winner in the oval of Esperanza.

 

I doubt this is indy...

 

GN??

 

I've been a bit busy making wiring harnesses for the roadster, here's a few static shots from last weekend Prescott Hillclimb












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NO silly!!! Frazer Nash "Rikki Tikki Tavi" on the test hill at Brooklands.

 

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Airborne 'Archie'............ it's a great shot.......


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Emilio Karstulovic On 14 November of 1926, Grand Prix de Santa Fe Province, opening of the oval circuit in Esperanza with a Renault N ° 13.

 

A quick thanks to Kurtis & The37kid for Delage question feed back. Knowledge base on the HAMB is fantastic esp this thread. Absolutely love these cars for their engineering and aesthetics and fascinating story about Louis and his demise because if these cars. Spent the night surfing and see that one sold in 2007 for US$1,635,560 - sounds like a bargain to me.

Cheers from Kume

 

This is Indy.

 

I'm not sure if you have come across this site for things Delage:

http://www.forum-auto.com/automobiles-mythiques-exception/section5/sujet378018.htm


Brooklands 1926: