Engine sealer what type are you using.

What type of engine / transmission etc gasket sealer is everyone using. I have being using the ThreeBond 1211 Silicone Liquid Gasket. Let me know if anyone else is using this product how you like it so far. Or what other type of sealer is everyone else using to assemble engines trans etc...
Thanks !
Frenchy

 

Toyota FIPG...best stuff ever, hands down.

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i agree only problem is that it works too well (lots of leverege to get thinds appart)

 

i found ultra black is neerly as good as the toyota stuff but heaps cheeper

 

Can you buy the Toyota sealer at the Toyota dealer.

Thanks
Frenchy

 

That toyota stuff is like you welded the pan on when it sets up hands down it's the best. Next in line is the GM grey silicone in the chaulking tube.

 

the toyota grey, and the nissan grey are awesome, i used to think nissan orange was the best, but the grey is much better, and the bonus is i work on nissans for a living, so i get it for free instead of 28 bucks a tube

 

Permatex Right Stuff. Nothing better!
Silicone's for bathtubs

 

Yamabond rocks, spendy shit bhought from the Yamaha dealer.

 

I just started using the Permatex Right Stuff in the black caulking tube and I like it.
Easy to get started again after it has been sitting.

 

God I must be really old, I have never heard of any of this stuff. I use Coppercoat,it worked well for me in 1970 and still does,It kind of reminds me of metalflake also.

 

THE RIGHT STUFF. I use it on every job i do. It is hands down the best sealer out there! i wouldnt use anything else

 

I use Ultra Black. But, a lot of guys swear by The Right Stuff too

 

Toyota product!!!! How come you did not know this Frenchy?

 

I did but I wanted to see if there was something else on the market that may be as good. Just to let you know I have signed up for the show in Tucson on October the 16th I will bring my 32 Hot Rod Lincoln.

Thanks
Frenchy

 

I have to be careful here taking about foreign cars we have a few people that do not like to see post about them.

Thanks !
Frenchy

 

Seems to me that we have achieved very little in this thread, since everybody stands by their own product choice, a little confusing to an old guy like me.

Maybe they should be rated in a 1 thru 5 score, or at least why one is better than another!!!

Guess I am leaning towards the Right Stuff simply because it is easy to get.

How about a recommendation on a Sealer for sealing head bolts into water jackets

 

For sealing threads, Loc-Tite liquid thread sealer.
It's white gooey stuff that smells like candy...don't taste like it , though....

 

I use plumbers thread dope with teflon.

 

I'm a big fan of the Motorcraft Ultra Silicone Sealant, aka Diesel Grey(and yes I work at a Ford dealer). It comes in the small tubes or the caulk gun size. Stuff works too good sometimes, its the factory sealant for the newer 7.3L 'stroke diesel oil pans, and it can make the pan a one time use part...

 

I've had great resuilts with the GM Assembly Adhesive. If you know someone that turns a "Goodwrench" you might get it for free. GM allows three (3) tubes for an intake and it only takes about 1/2 tube.

 

Talk about feeling old...I still use Permatex Aviation Sealant. The messy brown shit that only cleans up with denatured alky. I built 3 BBCs from bare block out and each build was that stuff exclusively on all the metal parts. Intake ports, timing cover, valve covers and oil pan. Each one was zero leak build from the start. The best part was that when things had to come apart for upgrades or service they did just that, came apart w/out any issues. Way faster to clean off the old gaskets and no orange globs in the filter when it was cut open. On the valve covers I only apply it to the tin since we needed to lash valves at the track now and then. I did use a real nice bead of black silicone at the front and back of the intake and just a nice lil dab at the corners of the rubber pan end seals.

 

mopar grey from the dealer is the baddest stuff out there

 

I really appreciate everybody opinion on this subject.

Thanks
Frenchy

 

FIPG for me also. Just got a couple of tubes this week.

 

I like it too just because I get it free at work.

 

Ed Hale put a motor together for me once. He used Indian Head sealer because it was easy to clean off with acetone. Since he was a racer, teardowns were often. I have been using it with great success. It works great on head bolts and various gaskets.

I use Permatex Ultra black on rear ends, trans pans, and around water passages on the intake.

 

I agree that the GM adhesive is really good but its not cheap if you have to buy it.

 

FIPG is a generic term (Form In Place Gasket). It simply refers to the type of gasket, ie, a liquid that hardens when installed, rather than a pre-cut paper type.

We use Loctite 5999 at our engine assembly plant. Ours are 50# buckets but it also comes in caulk gun size. You can only leave the part exposed for 10 mins max before the bead begins to skin over, but it's good stuff. Use about a 2mm bead for two machined surfaces and 4-5mm for stamped-to-machine bonds. We've never had any issue with it. Says that the surfaces need to be perfectly clean, no oil, etc, but normally that's not the case and as long as the bead goes where it should we have zero issues. Since I've been here we've built ~500,000 engines with no known failures.

One of the other plants uses Loctite 5205 (509 is about the same), it can sit out a bit longer because it's anaerobic (hardens in the absence of air). Pretty gooey stuff though. I believe it comes in tubes.

 

The Toyota stuff is all that. They also make stuff for transmission and differential applications. It is salmon colored and works for gear oil/ atf.