Is everyone missing the second smaller scoop facing backwards (likely over a gauge) in the photo, or am I somehow mistaken? Are you just looking to recreate that car? Because I dont think your nose is off that exact one, as this thread seems to read.
Check out this Allard site, the nose reminds me of the them and other sports cars of the time. Just wonder if it was a modified piece and not scratch built fot the 26-27 T body. http://www.allardregister.org/
your probably mistaking the louvers as a shadow for a small longer scoop. there is a hole at the back of the long scoop, maybe for a fuel gauge. on the diagonal section of the hood side , even the irregular spacing of the attachment holes are the same.
Cool, we hold the C Modified Roadster record unblown at 266.050...we bumped it up this year in fact from our own record.
By the mid 50s the offset Indy roadsters were quickly obsoleting the upright champ cars. I would think old sheetmetal was still around that could be had for cheap or at least the bucks to hammer one out on. Especially in SoCal which was the hub of the Indy builders at the time.
Naa, its a lot taller and longer than a louver..I circled it in red. That about 2-3 inches tall. *passes out magnifying glasses*
I cant either, that's why I said it isn't that exact car. Edit: I should note that it is possible the car had multiple noses, but either way, thats a rearward facing scoop on the right side of the big scoop, to provide aerodynamics over a gauge, or something of the sort sticking up.
Check the length of the scoop/bulge on the hood against the tire in the 1956 pic Jimmy B posted. If there's one thing constant in regards to race cars is that they are constantly changing.
looks like the same nose,with a different hood. On the 10cx car the little scoop could have been removed,there lovers there now,the hole in the back of the hood . My guess it was where the mag stuck through, But its on the wrong side for chevy motor,Am I wrong but it looks like the same car only different color and different hood.The side lovers and the nose look to be the same.
Iv'e looked at alot of indy noses lately and they all seem to have a grill to allow cooling for multi lapps. Im thinking it was pretty easy to change the hood when bigger and faster engines came out. Or different injections were used,but the rest of the nose its the same on both of these cars.
My guess is that you're correct. In 56 it ran a flattie, in 61 a sbc and who knows what multitude of different engines and in what configurations it may have run over the years. As most racers do, things were changed/modified to accomodate whatever they were trying to accomplish.
The t cowl has been seriously changed to except the long nose. The driver sets way back and the cowl covers most of the doors. the belly pans all seem to be fitted just for this car. when you can do this kind of work changing a hood scoop or a hood seems like a small task. thanks for all the imput. This just keeps getting better and better.
So.....they dont get modified or replaced in a 1/2 century, or are they constantly changing? I'm willing to bet the nose isnt a one off, there is more than one, and this isnt off the car in the photo, but have at believing whatever.
As I said yesterday, it's a destroked 283 V 8. In fact, I believe the 255" blown Chevy links the two roadsters as the same car because the dark colored car was run by Tom Cobbs who also ran a blown 255" Chevy in his # 25 coupe which is now restored as the So Cal coupe. I'm guessing the engine Saderup ran in the roadster is, or was Tom Cobbs engine from the coupe.
If you look at boars pics you can see an outline where the scoop is in the earlier pic it was most likely aero for a guage? I think its the one!!
No, most pieces like this were a one off. People comissioned a metalman for the project if they wanted the very best. Looks like the real deal to me.
Phil Freudiger's grandson is on the HAMB he posted on the Tom Cobbs thread about his Grandpa's roadster Freudiger Might pay to PM Freudiger bigboar.
Here is a few more angles showing the lovers better,and where it hooks to the cowl, notice the different size lovers. If there is more than one of these out there id like to see it. and the 4 distinct anchor bolts where the nose hooks to the hood side.
I would agree that it may have been modified to fit the roadster as opposed to the original application, but no doubt it looks to be the actual nose from the roadster. Of all the pieces to have to replace, the actual hood would be the easiest to reproduce. If the car had something that required clearance at one point but was changed out later, any top contending racer would have the hood changed to reduce wind resistance. I can't imagine there would be too many (read: any other) noses exactly like this out there. Wicked find, building a tribute car is a great Idea.
Tribute car it is. just wish I could find a feature story showing the frame,rear end, front axle,etc. thanks for the input. this is going to be a fun build.
Phucker...why are you so invested in this nose not being from the car pictured? That nose that bigboar found is a beautiful piece of handmade art...DEFINITELY....a one off piece! I have never seen anything like that and I am sure I speak for a lot of people....the other poster who said that the hood "couldnt have been changed over the last 50 years" was being SARCASTIC....that is to say that to deny that this is the same nose simply because of a small guage pod or hole/bubble in the hood is ludicrous... bigboar...good luck with the build buddy...that nose is an awesome start!
Exactly right gasser dood, you'll notice if you hold your pointer over this... it clearly says sarcastic. I think maybe he's trying to live up his user name.
Im going forward with this tribute car The nose has been 99% comfirmed its the car in the pic. Seems most of the people involved with this car are gone. But I have some good people still searching for more imfo. I will keep you posted . going tomarrow to look at a cherry 27 t roadster body.
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