History Photos taken before WW2 - history in black and white

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Bell also built some early Aeroplanes, launched them on a frozen lake in New York. I believe Glenn Curtis was his test pilot.

 

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After the first flights in New York. Bell
moved his experiments to Baddeck
Bay, Nova Scotia, where in February
1909, with pilot and co-designer, Howard
McCurdy at the controls, Bell's 'Silver Dart'
'aeroplane' made what was to be the first
controlled powered flight in Canada and the
British Empire.

Mart3406
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From WikiPedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AEA_Silver_Dart

Specifications (Silver Dart)

General characteristics

Crew: 1

Length: 30 ft 0 in (9.15 m)
Wingspan: 49 ft 1 in (15.0 m)
Height: 9 ft 7 in (2.9 m)
Wing area: 52.3² (50²)
Empty weight: 320 lb (145 kg)
Powerplant: 1× Curtiss water-cooled
V8 engine, 50 hp (37 kW)

Performance
Maximum speed: 40 mph (35 knots,
64 km/h)
Range: 20 mi (17 nm, 35 km)
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Margaret Callahan 1936.

 

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This brand of bread was sold in Portland, Oregon for most of my life and only seems to be gone for twenty years or so. The owners must have been relatives. It couldn't have been a world wide company.

 

1920 touring car needs an ID, on behalf of American-Automobiles.com. THX!

 

Last week's quiz was not exactly one that stirred everyone up, nor was it easy. The car was a 1910 Jenkins, made in Rochester, NY. I think maybe we should give the quiz a rest for a while.

BUT, let's keep posting mystery photos to keep the gray matter in shape. There is no end to unidentified car photos, fortunately, and they seem to be a big part of this thread.

 

Duesenberg.

 

TWIN-6 replied: Jimi, here's another shot of the garage
and service rig, just west of Black Mountain, NC. <!-- / message --><!-- attachments -->



Jimi: A big THANKS, Twin! It really wasn't a dead spot,
as the first shot kind of made it appear. AND you've helped
peg it as Texaco, LOCATION, and they were a going enough
concern to have their own tow truck. Also, TWO pumps, not
just ONE. HAMBer Scrubba from Richmond, VA, also filled
in the following COOL INFO (THANKS, Ed!):

"Jimi, the pumps are popular Tokiem model #610 straight
shells . They were made from 1927-1930 and were using the
same shells as #620's made to 1946. I would say probably
the garage would have been in the early 1930's to perhaps
mabye 1937. Ed Shaver- 'scrubba .' <!-- / message --><!-- sig -->"

 

Jimi, I just noticed the Justus service rig is a 3rd series twin six. Probably started out as a 7 passenger touring car.

 

Sorry I didn't put in the effort to submit an answer, but at least I was right thinking it was a New York built car. Please post a new "What is It" contest photo.I've got to find some photos for a post later today. Bob

 

At first I thought Blitzen Bean was a spoof of Blitzen Benz, but months after I found this photo, I found a newspaper article explaining that's the driver's name. He's shown on the Klondike Valley Road, which no longer exists. Check the amount of road grime on the car and his pants - he must have put on a clean shirt and tie for the photo. The massive rig behind is a steam powered gold dredge.

 

Is Blitzen driving an EMF or a Flanders?

 

The car parked next to trailer LKD276 is a 1950 Buick. Where are you guys who argue the date of the start of World War Two when we need you?

 

And the car to the left of the caravan is a Mk V Jag. Produced from 1948-1951.

 

In the few months this thread has been running, occasionally a post war photo gets posted and a PM to the person who posted it usually results in the photo being deleted (and a link to where one can see the photo elsewhere, is put up in its place). The modern color photos were the best examples of what were the easiest infractions, if that's the right word. Sometimes we find cool photos and in our haste to post and share them, a post war image slips in basically by mistake.

I'd not have guessed this car was a '50 Buick, so I didn't think twice. Later cars are not my strong suit! I don't like sending PM's because I feel like a cop, and I'd much rather that we self-police. That's one reason we went with the title for the thread, to keep it very simple without reminding people: photos taken before WW2.

A photo of a post war car should not be posted. But occasionally it does happen, and because I am not a moderator (or worse) I have nudged a few by PM to change their posts - it has always been cordial, and worked - and I recommend that others try a polite PM to bring a slip-up to the attention of the person who posted a photo from after the war. Personally, I am not sweating when the war broke out, or when it ended (VE day? VJ day?) because we've head some very interesting WW2 pix of vehicles, planes, etc. posted and it does allow some leeway.

I never dreamed when starting this thread that it would have lasted this long, or seen the level of support or following that it has. And no other thread has a "rule" about what should be posted. But what has evolved is a great stash of really old photos covering all sorts of vehicles and related subject matter that does not look like any other thread. Thanks to the efforts of so many, we have a truly unique thing here.

On a website for hot rodders, this material is not exactly mainstream! As Jimi noted, the photos and vehicles in them are a part of history and context. Like chapter one in a book leading up to hot rods (?). And as The37kid said, we have Ryan and Co. to thank for allowing us space to have fun. Let's keep having fun and sharing the incredible talent and knowledge on the HAMB -- and try our best to stick to the original theme by posting photos taken before WW2.

 

Twin, yeah, this thread has been popular (rating nearly 4.7!) AND stayed largely OT, probably BECAUSE you worded the thread title so plainly, right up front. I found it kind of restrictive at first, to be honest, but it seems to have worked out for the best, creating a repository (beats the hell out of suppository, don't it?) of truly OLD car pix.

My only wish is that the effort would have been made (by posters and viewers both) to ID the cars when they are posted. I feel it would double the fun value, and it would make this thread a real RESOURCE for finding a visual on a really RARE make (you know, those that were only made for one or two years, e.g.). Hey, sometimes literally NOBODY honestly knows what a car is; but some cars go by without even a guess, and it seems like a missed opportunity to do something worthwhile. Just my two bits.

Not to belabor the other debate, but I may have missed something. Are photos taken in 1942 through 1945 (the "war years," for the U.S., anyway) permitted? A heck of a lot of activity took place during those four years, and pix were taken. But that was certainly NOT "Before WWII." And if we are sticking to pix before December 8, 1941 (the day FDR successfully called for a war declaration on Japan), that's fine. Just checking where we stand at present. Are we still trying for strictly PRE-World War II?

 

Twin, THANKS for ID-ing the '20 Duesy! I'd have never guessed, as the STYLING seems so boilerplate like other 1920 models. BUT, this is ILLUTRATIVE of the fact, IMO, that Fred and Augie were great engineers -- not stylists nor marketers.

Shortly after the pictured car came out, the brothers had the misfortune to hire Martin VanZandt for about a year to handle the business end of things. (This is the same VanZandt infamous for his questionable antics with his own Revere autos at Logansport, IN!). Fortunately VanZandt left quickly (with the company further weakened fiscally), and we ALL know how Duesenbergs' style grew to match internal quality after E.L. Cord got them into HIS stable! So, it all turned out for the best!

Man, what a WILD ride some of those companies had -- those that made it and some that didn't!

 

I'm posting only pre-war photos, and I have to believe that's what thread followers expect from each other. My personal take is that I am not sweating the pix that have crept into the war years, and I readily admit I slacked off on sending PM's to folks who posted wartime photos. We don't have a foolproof system here, and it is self-policing. That said, we are still striving to post only photos taken before WW2 photos, yes.

 

A couple mystery cars. No idea what they are.

 

Vacation summer of 1941,

 

1938 Phantom Corsair. Only one was ever built. The brainchild of Rust Heinz, 25-year-old heir to the ketchup fortune, the Corsair was to sell for $12,500 with modernism that was more than skin-deep - it boasted features that wouldn’t take hold for a generation, such as padded interiors and gauges for fuel economy and battery charge, a barometer and compass, front-wheel drive, and electric gear shift. Tragically, Heinz died in a car accident before the Corsair saw an assembly line.