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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by kurtis, Jul 18, 2009.

  1. ehdubya
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    Only what I read in a Ford book, that it was powered by an engine made from 2 model A Fords and called that by some.
     
  2. T-Head
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    Thanks....
     
  3. Bluto
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    I don't collect signs generally but this came from my old friend Mark Dees
    after we lost him

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  4. fur biscuit
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    the car in the right front is a Pope-Toledo

     
  5. T-Head
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    A driver getting ready for an exhibition run of a Stanley at the inaugural race meet on Old Orchard Beach, Labor Day 1911. It looks to be possibly the same model as the so called Vanderbilt cars.....

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    This might be L.F.N. Baldwin. He also set the fastest time at Dead Horse Hill with one of the two Vanderbilt racers in 1909 @ 54 seconds flat.
     
  8. The37Kid
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    That Stanley looks to be LEFT hand drive, most were right hand drive, always wondered why the 30HP cars were built that way.
     
  9. LeeStohr
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    That looks like one of the two 1906 'Vanderbilt' Stanleys. Below is Fred Marriot at the wheel of one. The Stanley's guaranteed these cars would do 120mph. However, Fred and Frank Durbin were beaten in a shakedown run at Reedville on May 30, 1906. Charles Basle's Mercedes 90 beat the new Stanley's that day. Still, the Stanley's promised the buyers of the cars that they would be ready for the Vanderbilt. Then the brothers went on summer vacation. At the last minute, FO Stanley sent a telegram to the buyers telling them not to enter the race and they would not be obligated to buy the cars.
    The racers went to Ormond Beach in 1907 where one car got to 102.8mph. It seems the cars knocked around for a few years after that, but the days of steam racers were over. I think only Webb Jay was able to take it to the explosion engine boys on the circle tracks with his White steam racers.
    Several beautiful replicas have been built of the 'Vanderbilt' Stanleys.

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  13. Bluto
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    What year is the issue of MMI is that I have a collection of many of those.

    The bad part is the Editor had a very 'Pro Greman' stance before we entered WWII as did many in the US. It is odd to read his editorals on "German Perfect''

    But then Pop Mechanics had a story that the Japanese woild never be good pilots because their mothers carried them on their backs.

    Where are the flying cars they told us were coming?
     
  14. MrFire
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    MMI - December 1933. :)
     
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    The start of a race at Clinton Minnesota which appears to be in the twenties......
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  17. gearguy
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    I presented a technical paper on Reverse Engineering this morning at the American Gear Manufacturers' Association Fall Technical Meeting in Milwaukee. Earlier this year I assisted in getting some oil pump gears for a 1991 Bennetton F1 car reverse engineered & manufactured. It was a great opportunity to educate over 100 Gear Engineers on one of the great "reverse engineering" stories of all time: Harry Miller & Fred Offenhauser "fixing" the Burman Peugot. I also mentioned Ettore Bugatti buying a Miller "for examination."
    Sadly, none of the under 50 year olds present knew anything about Miller, Offenhauser, or Bugatti.
    We have a lot of educating to do.

    Chuck Schultz
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  18. jimdillon
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    Chuck, It would be great if you could relate the extent of what exactly Miller (and Offenhauser) did in their fix of the Burman Peugeot. Pictures would be great as well. I have done a bit of research but am always looking for what others have found.-Jim
     
  19. T-Head
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    An early Indy start, possibly 1911......

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  20. T-Head
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    Yes..... I join Jim in wanting to know any details you can share......
     
  21. gearguy
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    I don't have any more details than what I have read in books, on line, and in this thread. As a gear engineer I'd love to run a stress analysis on those Miller front drive units. They are beautiful pieces but to the modern "tuned" eye they look weak in a few places.

    Chuck Schultz
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    PS: See my website for free pdf downloads on all my published technical writings. The Reverse Engineering paper will be "up" shortly.
    www.beytagear.com
     
  22. twin6
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    Edgar Apperson in Vanderbilt racer. Check the little sign in the window.
     

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    The Appperson demise, courtesy of Howard Kroplick's fantastic Vanderbilt site-

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