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  1. jimi'shemi291
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    The Hindenburgh wasn't the only fatal calamity involving a lighter-
    than-air craft. Here is the sobering aftermath of what was called
    the "Shenandoah Disaster," September 1925, near Sharon, Ohio,
    THANKS to Shorpy! The old-fashioned (but effective!) panoramic
    photo was captured by one Rell Sam Clements. 14 lives were lost,
    versus 29 who made it. The airship was a craft of the U.S. Navy
    fleet.

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    Adding insult to injury, Captain Zachary Lansdowne, knowing
    of predicted storms, recommended to his commander that the
    aircraft remain on the ground. He was overruled and died,
    along with 13 of his command. So much for the brass giving
    a hoot for good advice, eh? No matter! WWI hero Billy Mitchell
    got revenge by openly criticizing the brass, though he was
    effectively drummed out of the service for taking a stand!
    But Mitchell ALWAYS stood up for the flyboys! THANKS for this
    photo go to CORBIS!

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  3. jimi'shemi291
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    You can see that this May 11, 1932, pic is retouched to show
    the three U.S. Navy seamen who were among 60 who attempted
    to help moor the USS Macon at San Diego. Two fell from over 200
    feet, and the third hung on for two hours for rescue. One of many
    tragedies that cropped up in the Zeppelin programs of Germany,
    England and the U.S. This photo is THANKS to SignOnSanDiego!
     
  4. Novadude55
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    Ahhhhhhhhhhh :D:D:D:D:D :cool:
    Thanks
     
  5. Novadude55
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    Who took that pic?? What ship??
     
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    The original dog in the painting was a terrier mix of two different terriers. The guy who painted it if memory serves right was Francis Barraud. He inherited the dog after his brother died. The guy was mesmerized at the dog listening to the gramaphone . It made such a mark on the guy he painted the original painting two years after the dog died. He tried to sell the picture to a few companies including Edison Bell but no one was interested. He called the painting his masters voice. Aftr a while the grammaphone company was interested but wanted their model painted. So they gave him one of the new ones and he repainted over the original gramaphone. That't the story behind the dog and gramaphone. As far a the dog goes it got its name Nipper from the way it would like to take "nips" at the back of peoples ankles. The "little nipper" is probably from when RCA had the ads of the big and little dogs about 10-20 years ago. I think they named the small dog chipper at that time. I use to restore old radios and such years ago and I have thousands of old documents and manuals. I always like the story on this one. Another good one was David Sarnoff and how he got his start with Marconi wireless. He ran errands to Marconis mistress. When David got older he eventually turned the Marconi company into RCA.
     
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    USS Cape Esperance (CVE-88)
     
  8. Novadude55
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    Great Shot whoever took it, I have a thing for carriers, since I lived on one for the 3 1/2 yrs, this one was an escort carrier, here is more info: USS CAPE ESPERANCE was the 34th CASABLANCA - class escort aircraft carrier. Decommissioned on August 22, 1946, the CAPE ESPERANCE was placed in the Pacific Reserve Fleet, Bremerton. Recommissioned on August 5, 1950, the CAPE ESPERANCE was assigned to the Military Sea Transportation Service, serving as T-CVE 88 until re-classified as CVU 88 on June 12, 1955. Finally decommissioned on January 15, 1959, the CAPE ESPERANCE was stricken from the Navy list on March 1, 1959, and was sold on May 14, 1959.
     
  9. Novadude55
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    And for Twin6, back atcha: 1933 Reo Speedwagon Model BN
    :cool::cool:
     
  10. jimi'shemi291
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    Willy, THAT is a wonderful story! Pretty amazing, really. We take so many of these trademarked images for granted. But there's OFTEN a back story that's super interesting. Good to know the REAL story. And isn't that what makes this thread so great?

    BTW, is that an Intruder there on the deck of the carrier, guys?
     
  11. Novadude55
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    [QUOTE BTW, is that an Intruder there on the deck of the carrier, guys?[/QUOTE]

    Nope, not from 54, have to look it up, maybe a Skyraider,,
     
  12. jimi'shemi291
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    This pic of James Dean, apparently on the set
    of one of his three movies, is THANKS to a site
    just called starssmoking. Smokin'? Yeah, he
    was. Too bad he couldn't stay around longer.

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    THANKS to the selvedgeyard, here's a small pic
    of James Dean with his "Little Bastard." Studio
    execs wrote his contract to preclude his racing
    during production of a movie. Good thing?
    He was driving TO a race date when he got
    clobbered. If I understand correctly, a photo
    genius named William Gedney took this shot.
     
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    Thanks, NovaDude. That big canopy had me wondering, bro.
     
  14. jimi'shemi291
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    Hey, NovaDude, I'll BET that REO body likely came from these folks! This ad is from a COOL site SunRoofCord steered me to.

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    1928 ad for Cantrell suburban bodies, Huntington, NY
     
  15. Novadude55
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    I believe it is an F86 Sabre,, see pic below
     
  16. Novadude55
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    AWESOME,, yes Cantrell,, would be J.T. Cantrell of Huntington, N.Y., was a well-known maker of woodie station wagons.
     
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    I'll be going past here this weekend and I'll get an updated pic. It looks almost nothing like this now. Other than the interstate running beside it, it's now more wooded than in this pic.

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  18. Deuce Daddy Don
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    AAHH!!-----The 'ol "M-boat!!!---Hit the beaches many times in one like that in the Korean war!!!!!!!!!-------Don
     
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    Not a Sabre-----McDonnell F2H Banshee---First made in 1947
     
  21. Novadude55
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    Ok, thanks for clarifying,
    I stand/sit corrected..:cool:
     
  22. Bob W
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    It's a F-86 Sabre built by North American Aviation , or, a CL-13 built under licence by Canadair. The CL-13 had more powerfull engines and I think the turning radius was shorter.

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadair_Sabre
     
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    I love the F-86, I used to work for North American
     
  24. Mazooma1
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    The “fastest track in Europe”, the Opel Rennbahn, just outside of Rüsselsheim was actually commissioned in the 1920’s. The maximum speeds capable were 140 kilometres per hour on the track.

    At the opening in 1920 she was the first permanent race track in Germany. The Berlin Avus was opened in 1921, the Nürburgring in 1927 and the Hockenheimring in 1932.

    More than 10,000 visitors attended the first race on 24 October 1920, at the height of it’s popularity there were up to 50,000 spectators.
    The reason that Opel built its own course at the gates of the city was probably due to the complaints of local residents about dangerous driving in the streets and the unbearable noise. Up until this point Opel tested its vehicles on the roads of the town.

    Despite the generally poor economic conditions in 1916 planning started for the track to be used for both experimental use and as a race track. The 1.5-kilometer circuit was designed in the form of a symmetrical ellipse by the architect and geometrician Jacob Bischofsheimer Ritzert.

    Today the track is hidden in the forest, but when it was constructed it lay in an open field beside the road from Trebur to Rüsselsheim. Car races and 24-hour motorcycle races were held at the same time, as a good test for the vehicles produced in the factory.

    The track also hosted the "Opel-Show" from 1924, which was first time that the entire day's production of the factory - 25 Opel "Laubfroch" or “Tree Frog” cars were displayed, Opel being the first manufacturer to adopt the innovation of assembly-line mass-produced cars in Germany.
    Due to the rapid development of automobile industry in that time, ten years after completion the track was out-of-date for races and was later only used for testing purposes until WW2.

    After WW2 the US Army leased the track and used it for testing purposes until 1948. Once the lease expired in 1949 basically it ended the era of this gem. The Forestry Service broke holes in the track and planted trees - the track lying dormant for decades since.

    Now the track is again begining to become more prominent in the public consciousness, as it is now part of the "Route of Industrial Heritage" and the Regional Park.

    By 2009 the track will again be largely exposed and through viewing platforms visitors will be able to get a glimpse of the track, which is still well preserved. Information panels and historic photos will show the importance of this historic heritage.

    Today the owner of the track is the city of Mainz. A complete reconstruction of the oval is not intended. It is no longer possible, because of the new national road L3012 between Rüsselsheim & Trebur which unfortunately meant that a 380-meter-long section of the home straight had to be demolished.

    Technical Data
    • Design / shape: asymmetrical ellipse in a north / south exposure, covering 15.34 hectares.
    • Length: 1.5 kilometres.
    • Width: 12 m.
    • Intrinsic safety zone stripes: 8 m.
    • Pavement thickness: 32 cm, of which 16 cm concrete.
    • Joint distance: about 5 m.
    • Conclusion: concrete collar - continuous / 1.5 m wide.
    • Steep curve: 32 °.
    • Maximum Speed: 140 km / h.
    • Grandstands: 5, for spectators, press, goal judges, as well as special guests and Opel family.
    • Built-up area: 450 Square Metre paddock and maintenance area further building of keeper's house, tool shed and toilet facilities.
    • Spectators: 50,000 max.
    • Race cars, motorcycles, - with side cars, bikes, bird race.
    • Bridge: left of the entrance was later erected a transition.

    Dates
    • 1916 contract award by Carl Opel, planning by the architect and geometer Jacob Bischofsheimer Ritzert - Royal Prussian architect and surveyor.
    • 1917 Construction work begins. Rüsselsheim 8417 sq, 5000 employed.
    • 1919 Construction completed in October.
    • 1920 24. October, opening with 10,000 fans.
    • 1922 Opel Grand Prize of 100,000 Reichsmark.
    • 1925 Legendary Laubfroch parade, one days extra production was increased from 25 to 125 units.
    • 1928 test and demonstration of the Opel Motoclub (motorcycles).
    • 1928 on March 12, tests of the rocket car RAK1 by Fritz von Opel.
    • 1929 Static tests of the first liquid materials-aircraft missiles.
    • 1931 to 1936 starting point of the "Opel caravans".
    • 1934 in August, Heini Dittmar in his self-designed and-built "Condor" landed here to set the world gliding altitude record and won the Opel Soaring prize.
    • 1934/35 New test track in the works.
     
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    Jet is a McDonnell F2H-3 Banshee. You can see it has two exhausts. The North American F-86/FJ series was a single engine jet. Plane on the left looks to be a Douglas AD-1 Skyraider. The ship may be the USS Cape Esperance (CVE-88) an escort carrier that saw duty in the Korean War.

    Kurt O. (current Douglas/Boeing employee, former North American, lifelong plane nut)
     
  26. If you folded the wings on a F86 it would break!:rolleyes:
     
  27. 4everblue
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    What a great shot. Louvers, pinstriping, trips, flat top with fenders ( Chicago box ) I wonder if the gunsights were filled in?
     
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    "Hey, Frenchy...Stick it!....NO, not literally...!"

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  29. Beach Bum
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    Not if it was an FJ-2/3/4 Fury!
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    Naval version of the F-86. Actually the F-86 was based on the straight wing FJ-1 and the FJ-2/3/4 had swept wings .

    Kurt O.
     
  30. Novadude55
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    Hey Mazooma, Love the way you show the before and after pic,, way cool!!
     
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