Hey guys love this thread though I havent read it all. BIG fan of JR stock racing. Also was a HUGE steve collison fan Rooder and supper staock before he passed. Ro mcgonegal is a great writer too. Heres my car If anyone has any info or pictures of the stephens pontiac cars I am writing an articale for amagize right now and would llove to hear it or see the pics. Thanks
Now Moroso needs to reissue these... 7.60 Stahl front cheaters. I picked these up last summer! Super light and require tubes. NOS from a PA speed shop! -Joe<!-- attachments -->
Bitchin!!!! Brand New Stahl Fronts, I wouldn't even know how or where to start to find this old stuff... I gotta start hang'n with you!! Larry
Mr. Colesy, You always come through with 'Great Stuff'. I wonder just how many 66' Biscayne's came through with the 427/425HP. Definitely a good combination on the track. Neil, In 1968, the 327/300HP 65' Biscayne and the 63' 327/250HP Corvette convertible both were classed in H/Stock (11.50 - 11.99 wt/hp). That would be I/Stock in 1969, and J/Stock in 1970. pc
Hey guys, I recently picked these parts up and was curious to see if rev limiters or cool cans were allowed in Junior Stock competition? I'm thinking they were used more in Super Stock or higher classes? Bear with me, I wasn't alive during that great era. I thought these parts were cool and had to have them anyway. I'm still searching for a 1969 NHRA rule book. -Joe
My father 1966 L-72 Biscayne(The Blue Buggy) in 1968 at Motion Performance [/IMG] Bill Mitchell and Joel Rosen tuning the Biscayne. [/IMG] [/IMG][/IMG]
Youtube video of the Blue Buggy at West Hampton Speedway in 68. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZc97wK0keM
In reading through the Car Craft 'Ultimate' series from '68 & '69 (and other publications from the era, like my personal favorite SS/DI) I'd say yes, both of these items are Class and period correct... hell even deep sump oil pans were allowed. Larry
Hey RAMZ---Is that you with the primered '65 A.K.A. "Thunderkiss"? Sounds just like your latest acquisition. If it is you, glad you're on board here---lots of cool Olds racers. Until next time..... Dave.
As for the M&H slicks---I have a "new" set of 9'' and have run with and without tubes and didn't really notice much of a difference. I plan to get a pair of those 7'' cheaters and mount them on a pair of 7'' Cragars. As for fronts--I'd REALLY like to have a pair of those Stahls--have Moroso's now and they aren't nostalgic enough for me. I think Coker has some Firestones or Goodrich Silvertowns that have the same profile and the diamond shaped edges near the treads but as of yet I haven't done any homework on them. Any thoughts? Also, MacNeish was running REAL close to the D/S record at the Dutch Classic recently--10.40s with a 302 stick---sure sounds like FUN to me!
I think you'll be happy with the 7" cheaters when you get them... the look correct and have nice BITE! Coker offers the Firestone 7.10-15 blackwall SKU 579880. I initially considered these because I thought they closely resembled the first generation Stahls with the thick pie crust design and being tall and narrow. 28.9" tall with a tread width of 4.5". -Joe
shhhhhhh. I bought these based on the Modern Rod magazine 65 442. The tires used in that test were Casler recaps. Im going to use the stock redline Tiger Paws on the front.
Neil, The 66' Biscayne (w/thin rectangular shaped tail-lights) came through with a 327/275 HP engine. The 327/300 HP engine was only available in the Corvette for that year. The engines came through with either a Holley #4160 550 cfm carb, and/or a Rochester Quadra-Jet. Compression ratio 10.25-1, and #461 casting heads (1.94 intake . 1.50 exhaust). Car weight #3430 lbs. Weight/break class (12.00 - 12.49) Our friend ran one, classed in I/S in 68' and then J/S in 69'. The difference between the 327/275 HP engine and Corvette 327/300 HP engine was the carburetor. The Corvette utilized the Model #4160 585 cfm carburetor. Both the 327/275 HP and 327/300 HP used the same cast iron intake manifold. pc
Some of the guys made their 'cool cans' out of the containers that potato chips were sold in at the time. Although (PA) 'UTZ' chip cans were about .00024 faster , I constructed mine from one made by the (also PA) 'Charles Chip' Company. It looks well-used and a bit forlorn in this shot taken right before the new owner came to pick the Pontiac up, on that bittersweet day, sometime in 1970.
Anybody remember (and possibly have photos of) the Karen Gaines '57 Chevy 210 Post? It was Gold in color, and SS/QA (220hp/283 with a 4-Jet) I saw it race quit a bit at Coles County (Charleston, IL) in the early 70's... it was Hitter for sure! Here's a photo I came across, that reminded me of her... Her husband's speed shop noted on the lower rear quarters... Gaines Speed Sport Larry
I currently run the Coker supplied BF Goodrich Silvertown 7.10 X 15 bias tires on the front of my '66 Bel Air. They run out fine and are 28" tall, 4.6" tread with 7.40" sidewall. Their P/N is 57990. They wear well. I may sell the pair I have. I want a taller tire like the Firestone - 28.88" tall, 4.5" tread and a 7.60" sidewall. I didn't think they'd fit, so I ordered the BFG's.
I have a 57 Chevy 150 and want to give it the Jr. stock look,i am getting the cheater slicks and tall tires for the front,but were can i find tow tabs at.Also of the M&H 7 inch repro cheater slicks which one will be the bets to put on my 57 thanks
Please bear with me. I skimmed though this whole thread trying to find some specific rules on this class and can't seem to find any. I have a '67 Chevy II sedan that I'd like to do up as a Jr. Stock car and am I correct in thinking there are divisions of this class for different H.P./ weight ratings (referring to the charts I've seen posted)? My concern is that someone back in the day may not have even selected such a car in lieu of say a Camaro of the same year and have more factory power available. If not, what might the rules dictate for this specific car in Jr. Stock in say 1967/68? Thanks ahead for any replies.
The trouble with the 67 is you can't run a 283 with a four barrel carb (220hp 283) 66 was the last year for the 220hp engine. There are 327 engines you can run in faster classes. The 350hp 327 will put you in A/Stock.
Matt, The first year the Street-Hemi ran in A/Stock was 1966. The weight/break was 7.00 - 8.69 wt/hp. There was a difference in weight in the "B" Body cars, with the Hemi. The Belvedere I (sedan/post car) #3640 lbs. The Belvedere II (hardtop) #3667 lbs. The Satellite (hardtop) #3772 lbs. The Coronet (sedan/post car) #3654 lbs. The Coronet Deluxe (sedan/post car) #3658 lbs. The Coronet Model 440 (hardtop) #3676 lbs. The Coronet 500 (hardtop) #3758 lbs. The Charger #3895 lbs. PC
Hey Joe, here's a couple of photos I came across showing some 'legal' Jr.Stocker accessories... (cool can with FI and a "way deep" sump pan) Larry
Currently the 67/327/275 HP runs D,E,F and G stock stick and automatic depending on the body style. Wagons run lower. They are GOOD combos for stock elim. The 327/350 HP has been de-rated down to C/S and I think D/S stick only and is NOT such a good combo even with the engine factor being de-rated. The carb is to small. It no longer has to run A/S. This is for regular NHRA and IHRA stock classes. If you are planning to run IHRA "Pure" stock they are full lb breaks and run the same wt. break but with a different letter designation on the windows because of the full lb. breaks. There is no Jr. stock program that Im aware of with correct engine specs. Most are a bracket type of race and the car just is supposed to look correct.
Matt, If your Pop ran a 1966 Belvedere II hardtop with a 383/325HP automatic in 1966, it would be classed in D/SA (10.60 - 11.29 wt/hp). The car weight listing is #3457 lbs. The 1966 383's were rated at 325 HP. The 1966 D/SA (E.T.) record was 13.14, and the MPH record was 106.50 The records were set by a 1966 389/335 HP Pontiac GTO convertible, and a 1966 421/376 HP Pontiac Grand Prix. If your Pop was winning his class in (Iowa) at that time, I'm guessing he was probably running 14.00's, with the up-grades you listed. Headers, 7" slicks, and 4.10 gears. pc
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