Give thanks for the Banger Meet Nov. 2010

That is a sweet ride... Reedy

 

Thank you, Reddy

 

What is that exhaust header? The whole pickup looks clean and cool.

 

Just Plain Bill
The exhaust header's are two stock model A manifolds cut in half, and blocked off on the cut ends Reddy

 

How do you get on the Banger Thread? I go to my control panel and can not get on. What is the trick?

Thanks

 

Does anybody make a louvered tailgate for model "a" pickups .I thought I saw them someplace and now I can not remember where.

 

If the engine is stuck do not tear it apart until you remove the distributor. I have two or three model "a" engines that were stuck. Once I removed the distributor they were no longer stuck. It does not happen all the time but I has happened enough. The distributors were rusted and stuck not the engines.

 

HA , Damn it, I thought I was the only one with that idea!!.
I have a bigger issue with it than you do in that I have a steering box in the way too.

I have used the front halves to make another twin outlet pair as well, with side exit pipes, and have been working on a modified stock intake manifold for twin updrafts , but once again the steering box is in the way.

What is the make of your finned side plate in the original photo?

 

there's someone in calif. that makes different size panels that are lovered. you can cut them to fit your tail gate. guy was at my house yesterday with them on his 32 pick up and they looked great.

 

Hi Guys
While I`m fully conversant with the V8 flattie, having had one in my roadster for 30 years now, I guess the basics are the same for V8s and bangers, but what are the pitfalls/do`s and dont`s of building a B banger,****embly wise?.
Also, are there any books available like the Ceridono/Smith engine manual and the Oddo Flathead engine builder`s handbook, but for the A/B motors?, or any `on line` links to a full step by step modified B banger buildup?.

I`m currently having `the works` done on a B motor here in the UK, insert bearings, full pressure oiling, line boring, full balance and bigger valves etc. The porting etc I`ll be doing myself along with the final****embly.
The company doing the machine work (Belcher eng.) will undoubtedly be able to guide me through the****embly, they`ve been working on bangers (both stock and modified) for years, but it`d be cool to have my own `to hand` source of buildup info.

Any help would be very much appreciated ..... Thanks...

 

When you talk about tachometers the term dizzy seems to be mentioned a lot. What the heck is a dizzy?

 

distributor.

 

My car back in 1956 when the past owner (DAVE) had it in high school. He made a set up like that but some rat******** walked off with it in the late sixties. I was thinking it might be cool to take a B manifold and us it on the front and the down pipe would come back at the angle. Some day I will find a B manifold cheep and cut it in half and see if it will clear the back manifold. One more thing for my big list

 

Can someone tell me about this head that I have. I have several different model A heads and none of them have these markings on them. It probably isnt anything important but I am curious.

 

Is there a Diamond cast under the water pump mount?

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Fordrat, that looks like a date code to me.

 

My thought exactly but from what I know about Diamond blocks and heads they did not really exist until the last B motor came off the****embly line. Earliest diamond engine I have of the (5) is a 1935 date code. Earliest head is on the block and matches the 35' date code. I have a bunch of Diamond heads and some have made in usa on them along with date codes and FORD cast on them some have all of those markings some have one of them. Hopefully the OP shows us the ports and underside of the water pump mount.

1931 from the date code is too early as far as I know. And supposedly production stopped in 1940 with the advent of the 9n in 1939 as a viable alternative to model A technology. Oldest block/head I have has a date code of 1940. So that kinda rules out 1941. I am perplexed by the code. I kinda have a collection of diamonds. Its funny no speed heads but tons of diamonds.

Honestly Bruce Lancaster may have some info someplace on the Diamond facts and fiction. This is all I have collected.-Weeks.

 

Heres a question for y'all.

Im going to pick up a model B cam, connecting rods, and various internal parts on friday. They were all the spare parts from an old timers 32 ford pickup. He no longer has the truck so no longer needs the parts.

My question is: what is better an A engine with a B cam, or a stock B engine? What would i gain by installing the B cam in my '30 A engine?

 

That was my first thought when I saw the head, but no it doesn't have a diamond. I agree that it is a date code, it reads I-31. If Im not mistaken that September 1931. I have also never seen the other marking the F__MF. It looks like someone took a grinder to that other letters.

Weeks46; You mentioned a speed head. Can you explain that alittle more?

 

Hillbilly-
If you put a B cam (and use the B lifters also-they have a larger "foot") a B carb and manifold, you will have B performance. While the B head is slightly higher compression than an A- what you want to look for in a stock head is one with a large B cast in the top- this takes an A water pump, and is what Ford sold as the "Police head"- It is the highest ratio of the stock heads. The head for the stock B engine has a large C on the top, and takes a 3 bolt water pump, but is not enough higher compression than the A head, to be worth changing IMHO.

A plus is the block is less likely to crack on the head surface around the exhaust valve, as the casting is thicker in the deck area on an A

A minus is that you have smaller bearings, and the lose the POSSIBILITY of a factory counterweighted crank.


Herb Kephart

 

Ford engines were also used by manufactures of farm equipment, I believe yor head was used by Massy Furgenson.

Gleener also used Ford engines on their Combines. The engine number on the Gleener had a prefix of GL followed by the numeric serial (GL12345).

 

Oh wow thats pretty neat! I did alittle reasearch and I think it was used on a Ferguson A. Which was produced between 1936-38.

 

Yes you will lose that but why not counterweight the model A crank? just have it checked for true after the welding is done.

 

did I hear some where that smaller bearings are yes weaker but don't they free but a little hp

 

Only because the OP sounded like he wanted to build something out of stock Ford parts. You are correct, welding counterweights on a non-counterweighted crank is the way to go- but it is considerably more expensive than what I was talking about. I've done it with four cylinder Chevy cranks, and it does make for a much smoother running engine---after the crank is rebalanced.
Easier yet is to take the supposedly shrunk on counterweights (which I have always found to be a loose fit, after the pins are drilled out) from a BB shaft, and put them on an A--but balancing is still mandatory.

Herb Kephart

 

well i picked up the parts mentioned previously, they turned out to be A parts but i bought them anyways. Good thing is they are all in usable condition. I posted them in the classifieds, maybe some one has a use for them.

 

I also have a question about this exhaust manifold. Im told its to help with heating. Since i am building a speedster i wont need it for heat. Should i get rid of it and go with the tube style factory manifold for better flow and less weight? Are these worth anything if i did take it off?


I also have a pair of the "tube" style model A exhaust manifolds. Is it true that you can cut them in half and run the two rear sections as dual exhaust? Like a split manifold?

 

" Is it true that you can cut them in half and run the two rear sections as dual exhaust? Like a split manifold? "

go back to post #94

 

boy do i feel stupid. I guess its true

 

Hate to interrupt but...

I put my trans on today and as my pal and I were putting the rear end on we found an extra part. How important is the washer with 4 holes that goes with the flywheel?