Hot Rods Sanderson Headers SUCK. Who makes a SBC header for Saginaw Power Steering box?

Hi All,
I need some help.
I am very annoyed at Sanderson headers. Using them in a 1941 Ford Panel with SBC 350 and Saginaw Power Steering box.
I want to replace my Sanderson Headers. The Sanderson headers keep devoloping a leak, like burning a hole in the tubes where they come together and are welded at the collector. I am on my second set of headers and third repair.
Donna at Sanderson keeps blaming the carburetor and says that it is set wrong. I have changed to a Tri Power and still burned a hole in the right side after 2,000 miles of road tours.
Who makes a SBC header for Saginaw Power Steering box.

 

Hey Ford350. I can't help with the headers but would love to know
the history of your truck. I had one in the late 70s and sold it. It became a show truck in the Louisville ky area. I have lost track of it but I was the second owner and have a lot to share ref to its past.It's a long shot but
these 41s are few and far between !!! LOl. Thanks for your time.
Tom (Tired Old Man)

 

Hi Tom,
Good to hear from you. I am in WI. and get to Kentucky every year with this set up at Louisville NSRA event. Love it!
I have had this for 12 years or so and it was built here in WI I was told and have met the builder and 2 of the other owners.
I have done a lot to it and as you know it never stops. Working on replacing the radiator after a repair of a leak in it and want to replace the headers now also.
Then on to one of my 1948 Chrysler convertibles to install a 1955 Hemi in it.
Don

 

Take a look at Doug's D302 http://www.summitracing.com/parts/DOU-D302/?rtype=10 might work for you

 

Yes sir, The Dougs Headers are nice, I have a set with the coating, not a fleck of rust after two years, When I set up my carb it would make your eyes bleed no problems with the manifold though. I like your truck, I have a 38 panel same color as yours with a 351 W stroked, and steelies, dig the trailer too.

 

Thanks but those will not work due to the Saginaw steering box on the Left side being in the way.
Headers on the Left side need to go forward and then down to clear the steering box.

 

I had the same problem and it was caused by a vacuum leak and a lean situation. Once that was taken care of, no problem. Sanderson even sold me another set of headers at half price. Good people as far as I'm concerned...

 

Thanks on the truck and trailer, I love it and use the set up a lot. Great Fun!
I called Pertronix who are the guys that make Doug's, Hedman and Patriot I was told.
Tech guy there could not come up with a replacement.

 

"I had the same problem and it was caused by a vacuum leak and a lean situation. Once that was taken care of, no problem. Sanderson even sold me another set of headers at half price. Good people as far as I'm concerned..."

Yeah I had good service also each time I sent the headers in for repair but I do not want to do that each year and hear the same story on why I have a problem. Different engine in one case. Different carbs in another, so why me I asked to no one in particular.
If you hear the story the first time it sounds like it could be the problem.
But why right side only?
No exhaust restriction on right side, pipe goes down 5 inches before making the turn to the rear so flow should be good.

 

Doug's and Patriot as well as JBA, but not Hedman.

Do you know the part number of your Sanderson's?

 

hell ya they suck.....same story, passenger side block hugger cracked for the third time too, currently in the middle of replacing them with Patriots. Same friggin excuse from Donna...."its your motors tune"....B.S!!....i noticed the patriots have a thicker tube wall....better welds....just a nicer product

wish i could tell you what would bolt on.....anything is better then the sandersons......good luck man

what about ram horns?

 

Well it sucks that they are giving you the run around , but I am glad that I am not the only one they have done this too....blame game that is, I hate the it can't be us attitude.

 

then run em upside down like a ski boat...seriously, sounds like you're gonna have to make your own. While I can't comment on the quality of Sandersons....they sure are way more expensive than the quality they appear to NOT have

 

I know everyone thinks they NEED headers. Truth is, 90% don't. Get an exh manifold for a 55-6 Chevy. I believe the left side dumps up front. I use em to put V-8's in 49-54 Chevy/GMC trucks

 

if a poorly tuned motor causes this, why would only one side be damaged?, ive never seen this before.

im not trying to argue or anything....i just think its a poor product

 

"Doug's and Patriot as well as JBA, but not Hedman.

Do you know the part number of your Sanderson's?"

Part No. for the Sanderson's is CC4.

 

"I know everyone thinks they NEED headers. Truth is, 90% don't. Get an exh manifold for a 55-6 Chevy. I believe the left side dumps up front. I use em to put V-8's in 49-54 Chevy/GMC trucks"

I am seriously thinking of doing that and thanks for that information. Headers were on when I traded my Vette for this truck so I kept them through all the trouble and learning curve with Sanderson including the 1/2 price deal for a new set which I thought was so great.

 

OK, Now that I see a picture of them in the catalog, i see what you ae talking about. Can't help ya there. Sorry

 

Whatch you talkin bout Willis? Everyone does need Headers! That was sacrilegious of you to state that!


Are you trying to put me out of a job?

 

Thanks for the reply Don. Thats a very fine looking truck. Tom (Tired Old man)

 

"if a poorly tuned motor causes this, why would only one side be damaged?, ive never seen this before.

im not trying to argue or anything....i just think its a poor product"

Yeah, that is what I keep saying. Tech from Pertronics was really trying to help me and figure out a possible problem. He asked about a possible restriction in the exhaust in the right side and specifically the first tube from the collector...is it long enough before it makes the turn....yes it is. So he could not come up with a solution.
I blame Sanderson product especially after reading many posts on the Net on other sites.

I wanted to buy the Patriot 9308037H for the Right side but the tube size is 1 5/8 and Sanderson is 1 1/2...............Not good to mix up the sizes.

 

"ever had the exhaust gas analyzed ? sorta sounds like your tuning is doing it more then just a junk header or poor material/repairs."

I set it up last year at a local shop to have the engine analyzed but then they had trouble with the new equipment that was just installed. Then I bought the Tri Power from a 1966 GTO with Large 2G Rochestor carbs and thought that was then end of my problems.
Not so, still developed a exhasut manifold leak this year.
Bummed, I want to move on the another project.

 

Your car will be quieter/cooler through the firewall, less issues with blown gskts/exh leaks, it probly will work on your car, and you will NOT feel a drop in performance by the "seat of your pants". Good luck

 

You would be amazed at how cool you can make a set of cast iron manifolds with a little imagination, a die grinder, some sanding, and some brush on ceramic coating. You'll be the talk of the town, and you did it yourself BDM

 

Can you tell me more about exactly where the hole keeps happening? Also is it a crack, or a hole? Is it the same exact spot each time? A pic would help.

By the way, adding a tri-power may or may not change your air/fuel ratio. You are just as likely to have a rich or lean condition with three carbs as you are with one.

-Abone.

 

Agreed! So seldom used, they look awful "trick" with the mods outlined above

 

LOL. As much as i strive for performance....there's a place for everything. . As resourceful as you are, I doubt you'll ever be out of a job

 

I had nothing but problems with Sandersons on my 327 - went back to my cheap Hookers....

 

went back to what {} I hope the Misses aint looking over your shoulder

 

The leaks seem to be happening where the tubes are welded to the collector.
Yeah could still be air/fuel ratio. Why Right side only is the question I have.

NOTE, these headers were repaired by Sanderson and never used again. Just sitting out on the bench by the back building. So that is why you see the rust!