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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by drgrayson, Dec 1, 2010.

  1. drgrayson
    Joined: Nov 30, 2010
    Posts: 3

    drgrayson
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    Hi folks,

    I recently completed an engine swap in my 74 Chevy C-10 from a straight six to a 350. The fuel pump (external electric) I purchased is noisy and sounds like a bee is in the cab with me. Does anyone recommend a quiet pump that delivers around 6-1/2 psi to the carburater? I have an Edelbrock 650 cfm carb, running around 300hp. Some internet threads suggested a Carter or Mallery, but the Mallery's are more pricey.

    Thanks - Darren
     
  2. why not just use a mechanical pump? you can still have the electric , and put it on a switch so you only turn it on when needed
     
  3. Small little rubber mounts and a bit of clever thinking will help quiet it down. You also get what you pay for, its very easy to make a cheap and noisy pump, versus a efficient and quiet pump. Good Luck, Welcome to the HAMB, BDM
     
  4. George G
    Joined: Jun 28, 2005
    Posts: 1,275

    George G
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    Diaphragm-style electric pumps are quiet.
    Also, they only come on as needed, rather
    than running continuously like the Holley
    and most other actual 'electric-motor' driven
    pumps. At the most a diaphragm pump will
    only make a slight 'clicking' noise when it
    comes on. If you use it as a backup pump,
    mounted near the tank to feed a mechanical
    pump on the engine, you'll probably never
    or only very occasionally ever hear it.

    Mart3406

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  5. George G
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  6. zman
    Joined: Apr 2, 2001
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    zman
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    from Garner, NC

    Beside that fact that the '74 is way to new, 6 1/2 lbs is to much for that Edelbrock. Make sure you use a regulator on it and dial it down at least a lb. or so. And I'm wonderign what's wrong with a mechanical pump.
     
  7. banginona40
    Joined: Mar 5, 2007
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    I don't have the answer you are looking for, but I have used a Holley Blue which was very noisy and a Carter, which is a bit more quiet but still annoying. No place on my 350 for a mechanical but that would be my vote.
     
  8. Also easy to fab up a nice little sheet metal box or shroud for around the pump. Line the box with a sound deadener, a small piece of Dynamat or the like. You dont need a fancy brake to bend up some 18 or 20 gauge, just a vice, 2 pieces of wood 2 by 4 and a lil oomph. DONE. BDM Dont forget the rubber mounts and a good ground wire.
     
  9. The problem is that when the pump is pumping and the motor doesn't need any fuel- pump is noisy, run pump free (like into a bucket) pump quiet, so solution is use a by-pass regulator, use same size line as to carb, also on the inlet and outlet of pump, use a short piece of flex hose and isolated mounts, should quiet the pump alot. For safty's sake I used push-lock hose & fittings for my flex line, you can get black, so it's more hidden.
     
  10. SinisterCustom
    Joined: Feb 18, 2004
    Posts: 8,277

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    I've found Carter street pumps to be the quietest of "performance" electric fuel pumps...some of it comes down to it's mounting arrangement. Many "performance" pumps have built-in bypasses.
    A Mallory pump will drive you crazy...even when rubber mounted...
     
  11. landseaandair
    Joined: Feb 23, 2009
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    landseaandair
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    from phoenix

    Get that pump out of the cab! Main reason being, if you get a leak or have an accident, there will be pressurized fuel in the cab. Bad enough that the tanks in there with you.
     
  12. 57JoeFoMoPar
    Joined: Sep 14, 2004
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    I'm running a Holley Blue at the moment. Damn thing makes a real racket, and it started leaking on me and shut off completely recently. I just bought a Carter, which should hopefully work better. I can deal with noise, but I can't deal with unreliability. The Carter is a rotary vane style pump. Should be much quieter than the Holley
     
  13. oldDavey
    Joined: Sep 8, 2010
    Posts: 15

    oldDavey
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    from Mulino, OR

    After several Holleys and an Aeromotive,I've been using a Bosch for a 12 cylinder BMW on my 502 for over two years with zero grief. I've still using the Aeromotive bypass style regulator. Quiet, too.
    OD
     
  14. 57JoeFoMoPar
    Joined: Sep 14, 2004
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    Got a part number for that BMW pump, or at least a year and model? Sounds like an interesting option
     

  15. You don't need much of a pump to feed 300 hp. For what you are running a stock mechanical pump will give you all the fuel you will ever need.

    I'm going to guess that you have no provision for a mechanical?

    Mallorys by the way are noisey as hell. I like 'em but they are noisey as hell.
     
  16. Get a 200 series Stewart Warner !! You'll love it !!! >>>>.
     
  17. fab32
    Joined: May 14, 2002
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    Like someone already posted. There is no need for an electric pump on a 300 hp SBC. Pick up a mechanical with a "better than stock" delivery spec and you'll be more than happy..............and no noise.

    Frank
     
  18. oldDavey
    Joined: Sep 8, 2010
    Posts: 15

    oldDavey
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    from Mulino, OR

    Can't find the box or reciept. Think it's a Mercedes 12 cyl. pump though. The pump on my '73 Volvo looks the same. Probably any wrecking yard Volvo, BMW, Saab or whatever pump would work. Mine has a 13mm inlet and a 3/8" outlet. So does my old Volvo. New it was only $100 or so. The wrinkle is you need a return line and a bypass regulator . No thing. Keeps the fuel cool.
    OD
     
  19. newsomtravis
    Joined: Jun 1, 2009
    Posts: 562

    newsomtravis
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    from pville, ca

    i recently used a little mr. gasket little pump from auto zone, cheap, bout 45 bucks, and pretty damn quiet.....was suprised.....came in several pressure too, think i got one the was 4and half to 5......cheap get me down the road deal....
     
  20. terryr
    Joined: Feb 8, 2007
    Posts: 285

    terryr
    Member
    from earth

    Fords with EFi used external pumps for years. I converted a EFI car to carb and wanted to use the electric high pressure pump, but didn't have a regulator.
    I made a Tee fitting as shown to lower the pressure. The restrictor lets most of the gas return but keeps a bit of pressure at the carb.
    A 1/16 hole dropped carb pressure to 20psi, and a 1/8 to 13. It took a 11/64 to get to 8 psi, which is a fairly big hole. I suppose this is because as pressure drops in the pump, volume increases. The higher volume kept the pressure up.

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    It's been working for years. Factory quiet.
     

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