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  1. jimi'shemi291
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    Thanks for the clarification, man. Maybe I was the only one thrown off. But I mentioned early-onset Alzheimer's before. LOL
     
  2. alsancle
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    Duesenberg A powered special being brought out of the garage for the first time in 50 years (the guy behind the wheel is a very well known restorer). Car was purchased by the seller's dad with that body on it in 1933.

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  3. From the Chrysler Airflow: One tough car! thread

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=510853&page=2


    There's still Airflow's out there, just waiting. This one been sitting in the same location for decades in Washington. Thats a 1934 "SE" sedan according to the grill and side panels. but the rear doors and large headlights make it look like an "CW" body. wheelbase measurement will tell you for sure.

    according to my books. if thats a CW sedan, there was only 17 ever made!! and if it was a town sedan still only 28 made!! wow.... and there it sits getting beat on.

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  4. jimi'shemi291
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    Every junkyard owner seems to have his own priorities and business angle. But I just can't fathom that this Airflow wasn't at least hoisted a couple of decades back and put under a roof. To paraphase the old hymn: "Amazing Waste" !!!

    HJ, you happend to have pix of one like this RESTORED, for sake of visual comparison?
     
  5. jimi'shemi291
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    SINGER was made in the US 1914-1920. BUT, is this
    the British Singer, started about 1905? Someone sug-
    gested so, and about 1927. If my memory serves, I think
    the Brit Singer was finally absorbed into the big Rootes
    family in the mid-'50s and renamed. But what? Sunbeam,
    maybe?


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    Plot thickens: We have this early '20s Singer shot
    by Douglass Wilkinson for Remarkable Cars at
    Woodstock, GA. That seems to say U.S., and the
    narrow radiator shell looks very much like the
    cars' in the B&W shots above.

    SO, British or U.S.???
     
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    At the very top was the model CW Airflow Custom Imperial with a body built by LeBaron on a 146.5 in (3,720 mm) wheelbase. It is believed that only three 1934 Imperial Airflows still exist.<SUP id=cite_ref-1 class=reference></SUP>
    The Airflow models offered for 1935 were the same as in 1934, with the exception of the Airflow Eight two door sedan which was dropped.

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    1935 Chrysler C-2 Imperial Airflow Sedan
    C2 Imperial Airflow 8, wheelbase - 128,0 inches:
    6-passenger 4-door sedan, 3998 pounds (1815 kg), 1475 US dollars, 2398 built.

    CW Custom Imperial Airflow 8, wheelbase - 146,5 inches:
    8-passenger sedan, 4785 pounds, 5000 US dollars, 15 built
    8-passenger sedan limousine, 5990 pounds, 5145 US dollars, 15 built
    8-passenger Town sedan limousine, 5090 pounds, 5145 US dollars, 2 built
     
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  8. swi66
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    The prototype of the Airflow still exists in the Chrysler Museum in Michigan
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    1932 Chrysler Trifon Special Airflow Prototype Concept Car
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    A 1935 Chrysler Airflow Imperial C2 prototype
    poses with its new Airstream running mate.




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  9. jimi'shemi291
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    Looking more like SirVival than a Tucker, a '72 Riviera customized
    as a Tucker wannabe! Yike! Thank good ness this never made it
    to mass production! An oddity posted by someone at the Tucker
    Club site.
     
  10. swi66
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    Possibly, this one should be extinct!
     
  11. alsancle
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    Jim may need to be banned from his own thread for that one. :)

    I think I like the back of the airflow prototype better then the production model. Although the nose is better on the production model.
     
  12. jimi'shemi291
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    Well, I love customs, lowriders as much as anybody. But THAT machine was ill conceived! Looks like something you'd have seen in one of those early-'70s blaxploitation movies!!!!

    Hey! But look, gang: There's ONLY ONE . . .so they CAN"T reproduce! LOL
     
  13. jimi'shemi291
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    I'm suspecting Alex Tremulis had some Edgar Allan Poe episodes
    in the '30s, folks. Rather wild Tremulis exercise from '37: a finned
    bubble-top with six wheels and Tatra fin! Looking more like a bath-
    tub Nash than a Tucker Torpedo, it seems only the rear vent glasses
    later made it into the Tucker 48 design. Another oddity I found on
    the Tucker Club site. For the record, I love Alex, though.

     
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  15. swi66
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    There is another "Tucker" Orphan out there.
    Guy made a fiberglass body for his 66 Corvair
    Called it Tucker/Esche #1052

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    other lookalikes have been made as well.
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  16. jimi'shemi291
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    The Dezer Collection, Miami, FL, has this fully restored '52 Crosley
    Skorpion for sale on the 'net. Appraised at $40 grand, they ask around
    $35,000. Only 28 of these were built between '52 and '54. Since '52
    was finis for the Crosley factory, I don't know who built them OR if it
    was Crosley authorized.

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    Sorta looks like a mini-Muntz with Henry J tail buds! Supposedly,
    this was preceded by a prototyped called the "Wasp."
     
  17. jimi'shemi291
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    Hiya, SWI! I honestly think there may be be more Tucker repros,

    tribute cars, and Tucker-themed cars than there ever were actual
    Tuckers. Humor intended, but I think it may be true!

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    This must have been one of the earliest tributes or theme cars.
    I think I read someplace that this had a strong Buick bloodline behind it.

     
  18. jimi'shemi291
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    AJ, I bet you're right. Probably FEW made
    and even FEWER survivors, eh?

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    <CENTER>1933 Essex Terraplane 8 Convertible Coupe</CENTER>
     
  20. jimi'shemi291
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    Too bad they couldn't have been made in greater numbers. BEAUTIFUL grille! You can just see it on hotrods, if some were available.
     
  21. Thanks for the pics of the prototype! Okay, I'm feeling a little foolish that just now I'm seeing that the front sheet metal is actually the rear end of a stock coupe/roadster!

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  22. shelby1
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    I came across these pics in one of my wife's old text books,did a net search and all I came up with some pics of sales brochures and a little info....but nothing else. I have never heard of this car and can not find any other pics of one....any one know anything about them? ...looks like they were only built for 5 years.
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  24. shelby1
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    I believe this was one of the brochures that I found. I ran searches and could not find any cars that are still around today......look to be a good design for it's day. In one of my searches I found where there were like 20 auto manufacturers in the US in the first part of this century. Some only produced one car others less than ten before they went out of business. No know cars still exist for most of these.
    Kenny
     
  25. swi66
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    Well, the Premocar 4 banger was supplied by Duesenberg.
    I don't know about the 6 cylinder motor
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    President Warren G. Harding arriving in a Premocar.

    Kind of indicates it's more of an up-scale car!
     
  26. Kenny-

    Check this out:

    MOAAML = Mother Of All Automobile Manufacturers List:

    http://www.spiritus-temporis.com/list-of-automobile-manufacturers/companies-by-country.html
     
  27. jimi'shemi291
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    For my part, I really want to thank Kenny for bringing not only a name
    but a PHOTO to a make we haven't examined before on this thread.
    (ALSO, he's right: Most of the makes in the early history of the U.S. auto
    aren't represented by a single surviving specimen! Surely says something
    about how people regarded cars, early on! A point we've agreed on here
    before.)

    The Premocar marque was founded in 1920 and apparently made
    similar cars for '21 through '23, ranging from around $1,300 to $2,000
    -- not a Rolls-Royce but definitely not a Model-T Ford! They were
    built by the Preston Motor Corporation, Birmingham, AL, and rode
    on a 117-inch wheelbase with semi-eliptical springing.

    SWI, I'm glad you could find out who made the four-banger Duesenberg
    engine for this Alabama car. The Premocar 6-40 Series SIX-cylinder was
    a FALLS unit of 23-hp valve-in-head (F-head?) of 196-CID. These mostly
    used a splash-lube system, but I read that the "XP" version of the six also
    added presure-lube. The cooling system was a "thermo-syphon" system,
    which I've never heard of. Could it be the forerunner of the pressurized
    systems we have today?

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    President Warren G. Harding arriving in a Premocar. Since the photo says
    Birmingham Library, maybe the southern hosts were transporting the presi-
    dent from the train station to his appearance via a locally made auto?



     
  28. roadkillontheweb
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    One of the statements they were trying to make with the airflow was that cars were more aerodynamic going backward back then so it did not surprise me when I saw it at the National Desoto Club convention in Michigan.
     
  29. shelby1
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    from Lillian,Al

  30. Rowdy_one
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    Amen, both of you, its all about fuel mileage, plastic crap, all designed in a wind tunnel (ever notice airplanes all look similar?) tiny no interior room, nuttin new in years as far as asthetic design. (Jimi, I like your bean metaphor, ive used watermelon for years LOL)
     

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