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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Saxman, Dec 10, 2010.

  1. Saxman
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    I really need some help here. You'd think it would be easy to find what I'm looking for but I've been to three auto parts stores and two hardware stores, I tried searching online and I still can't find what I need.

    Here's the deal. I'm looking for a 3/8" 90 degree fitting to go into my fuel pump, so that end needs to have an inverted flare. The other end I just want to connect my 3/8" hard line to run to my carbs.

    I need this fitting because of some clearance issues and I can't get a tight enough bend on the 3/8 tubing.

    They're out there. I've seen 'em on other cars, but damned if I can find one. Anyone have any idea? I figure if anyone would know, it would be my fellow HAMBers.
     
  2. 32-3 WINDOW
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    usally ive found good fittings and elbows thru wheatherhead sold thru n.a.p.a. , i think parker also makes them , do you have a house of hose or evco store in your area , hope this helps
     
  3. oj
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    I have seen 3/8 inverted flare swivel 90's but they are rare birds and don't recall what they came on - Internationals?
    what i would do is bend a short piece of tubing. The problem is that they have to swivel or else they'd tighten up in the wrong direction. Bending a piece of tubing you can clock it anywhere and just tighten the tube nut into the pump. Is there enough room? 3/8 90deg takes a fair amout of space.
     
  4. Saxman
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    Thanks for the responses.

    I'll check weatherhead. Thanks for the tip.

    oj - I can't get a tight enough bend on tubing to make it work. It ends up sticking out of the fuel pump about 3". I can see what you're saying about it needing to swivel or the darn thing could end up pointing down when it's tight. damn!

    I'm working on the ***umption that the end that goes into the fuel pump needs to be an inverted flare, not a pipe thread. Does that sound right?
     
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  5. tommy
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    Look up hydraulics in the yellow pages. Most likely there is a shop that repairs hydraulics for trucks and farm equipment. We have a chain around here that has all the fittings in bins. I have gone in looking for a certain fitting and walked out with a different combination of fittings that do the same job. It's a better chance that they will have the adapter elbows but if not they can get the job done.

    Don't overlook a plumbing/HVAC supply house.
     
  6. Saxman
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    Thanks Tommy. I'll see what I can find. Sometimes hotrodding is a pain in the ***.
     
  7. dreracecar
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    I have been thinking about this, There is a youtube video about "how they are made" trumphets or trombones and how they bend that very thin tubing so perfectly. Without going back ,I think they fill the parts with a mixture of soapy water and freeze the part-- the soapy water frozen is hard but flexable enough to bend, then is melted out. So mix the same and bend it around a socket because the mixture should keep the soft tube from colapsing, Worth a try?
     
  8. BISHOP
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  9. i've looked many times for a 90 degree fitting with 3/8 inverted flare female on one end and male on the other end..... neither Edelmann or Weatherhead have it

    if someone could come up with a source i could use some too
     
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  12. Saxman
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    Thanks for the info. I doesn't hurt to give it a try, I suppose.
     
  13. 61bone
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    Not a lot of info on the pump, but more than likely it is 1/4" pipe in the pump. If you have to have a flare in the pump, cap one end of your tube, fill with iced distilled water and cap other end, being sure you have all the air out. warm it up till it is just warm to the touch down the whole length. At this point, you'll be able to wrap it around a 1/4" bolt without it collapsing.
     
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  15. langy
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    90 degree Forged fittings are much tighter
     
  16. F&J
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    What do you mean by sometimes? :(


    Lots of good suggestions here already.

    Me? I would either make a tool to bend the tube tighter radius, or try what was said about the ice.

    Then you only have one joint to possibly leak.

    2nd choice, I'd try a Hydraulic shop. Lots of hyd systems have space problems and they may have something.

    Last option I would probably not do because there would be 3 joints to worry about: There is a straight and very short br*** fitting to screw into that flare and the other end is pipe thread. Then do a br*** 90 elbow fitting that has pipe-to-flare. Too many joints for me to worry about.
     
  17. If it is a standard type diaphragm pump, can you can separate it and "clock" it around for better clearance?
     
  18. Hellfish
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    The Weatherhead cabinets have been a disorganized mess at every NAPA I've ever been in. Usually I look for awhile, then the parts guy looks for awhile, then we give up, I find the part I want in the Weatherhead catalog behind the counter, they order it, and I have it the next day
     
  19. Ed D
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    Try WWW.br***fittings.com 402EEE is 3/8 90 degree inverted flare to male pipe thread they have what you need. Are you sure the pump is 3/8 mine was 1/4, but you never said what pump. Good luck Ed
     
  20. Saxman
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    Great solution! If the ice water doesn't work out, this will be my next choice. Thanks!
     
  21. Saxman
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    Problem solved. I never did find the fitting I needed but I managed to get a tight enough bend on the line to clear everything.

    Thanks for all the responses. Some good tricks here that I didn't know about before!
     

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