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1932 Ford engine weight difference...4 vs. V8...

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 3wLarry, Dec 12, 2010.

  1. 3wLarry
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    I've searched and can't find the weights of an original 1932 4 banger and an original 1932 V8.

    I found generalized info, but not factual info.
     
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  2. DICK SPADARO
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    V8 weighs around 570 lbs , "B" weighs around 450 lbs
     
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  3. The37Kid
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    A top of the line overhead and 2 Winfields will add about 80 pounds to the 4Banger Larry, what are you building?:confused::D:rolleyes:
     
  4. 3wLarry
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    Thanks guys. I'm putting a stock 1955 Chevy 265/2brl/ '39 ******/40 banjo in a stock unboxed '32 frame and wanted to know how much the difference was in a stock '32 motor and the chevy. The Chevy is 531 lbs.

    Jason Smith at Hot Rod Garage did it in his roadster and it fits perfectly without cutting the stock firewall.

    I love the look of an unboxed frame...doesn't look street roddy...and I've driven Jason's roadster...it works great.

    I don't plan on beating on this setup, so an unboxed frame will work...and it's cheaper!

    pics of Jason's cool original, but modified front motor mounts, and the neat way he modified the front crossmember to clear the crank pulley:
     

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  5. HotRod33
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    I like the looks of the motor mounts and it makes it easy to get the exhaust in.......
     
  6. thunderbirdesq
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    So the stock deuce v8 weighs more than the chev? huh...

    I LOVE that mount setup. Looks about as good as a chevy can in an early ford ch***is. I mounted my late flathead the same way in my roadster ch***is. I did box the frame though, I gave it a HEAVY step box. The plates are almost 1/2" inward from the edge. It really firmed up the ch***is and without getting down on your knees or reaching inside the frame you can't tell it's not unboxed.
     
  7. 3wLarry
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    Jason's roadster is 100% stock except for the motor and ******...rearend, suspension, steering, and mechanical brakes!...it stops, steers, and rides/drives great!

    I want this same setup in mine, and with a 162hp motor, I won't be twisting the frame much.
     
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  8. tommy
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    I don't know who did mine or when it was done but they never boxed the frame either. I'm thinking about 1970. The engine appears to be a crate motor 1970 LT-1 with all the goodies. It's a pretty hefty sounding SB. The front mounts are similar but were home made and a little crude looking but that was before it became an art form.

    You've all seen the mud pictures so you know I don't baby it. Not a problem. I think the small tire patch lets it break the tires loose before anything dad happens.:D I don't smoke the tires but it has happened on occasions. :D
     
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  9. The37Kid
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    Larry what is the green bracketry that is in some photos but not in others?[​IMG]
     
  10. thunderbirdesq
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    I know there's alot of guys running around in cars with unboxed frames with no issues, and honestly, that WAS my plan when I started building the car. Until I had the bare ch***is laid out and saw how much flex I could put into it with my bare hands. I'm not making a case for it one way or the other, and my reasoning isn't entirely based on fact, but I just couldn't imagine myself cruising down the highway at 80mph with the occaisonal 100mph blast on the wet noodle of a deuce frame that laid before me, hahaha! :cool:

    Did it truly add stability and handling to the car? I'll never know, but it sure feels like it! It goes down the road straight as an arrow and I've had more than a few experienced hot-rodders comment after a ride in it that they can't believe how nice the car feels/handles at highway speeds using "all that original equipment!"

    But I digress... I do love the use of "stock-style" deuce front mounts! I'm excited to see your project come together.
     
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  11. 3wLarry
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    Bob, that's just an old tractor headlight bar that Jason just happened to lay down there. I moved it to get better pics.
     
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  12. 3wLarry
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    Jason re***ured me that with all the rigid sheetmetal in my '32 truck cab, and the structure of the pickup bed bolted to the frame, that I wouldn't have much flexing issues....a roadster will flex a whole lot more.
     
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  13. jambottle
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    I just bought this 32 ch***ie and i think the motor mounts are plenty strong but i`m not so sure about the rear suspension .this is an original ch***ie from the sixties and i know how its important to save this early workmanship!I will for sure have to spring for new tires and cotter keys for the tie rod ends.
     

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  14. The37Kid
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    Jambottle, Could you please start a seperate thread with those photos? I have a few oneliners I'd like to post. You have a plasmacutter I hope.
     
  15. oldebob
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    That was perfect. Thanks.
     
  16. andyg
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    roller..tell Jason "it's about time". Thought I was going to have to move out there and get it going myself! Great to see it back in! Take some video for us when he starts it. I want to here that beast!

    btw...I love my mechanicals too!...and thanks for the wishbone and axle. Angela is very excited about them too. that's what the bones and axle are for...her pickup. but if you need them back let me know.
     
  17. Bruce Lancaster
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    I'm at work with limited s**** iron and bookage, but here's what I have from the specs in the salesman's book:
    V8 engine, weight is as shipped with trans and clutch, so to compare someone needs to weigh deuce 4 and 8 transmissions: 615 pounds
    B engine, equipped as above: 464 pounds

    Ford Deee-Luxe coupe: 2464 V8, 2364 B. Note there's still 50 pounds to account for there...??

    Notes...engines left the Rouge as running units, all accessories and trans on. That is presumably the weight given, and non-32 engines would differ mostly as a function of iron vs aluminum for heads, flywheel and clutch type, and things like that. I ***ume the car weights given in the book ***ume standard configuration, with rumble included only on cars that had it standard and so forth.
     

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