Customs Will these new Cragar wheels get me banned???

i love em with the www. but then again i just love www's

 

I see some of this can get personal. Hemi's right. Certain things didn't happen until later. My late father was a racer. He did what he could with old parts, a cutting torch, and an arc welder. Right after WWII most of the old stuff was getting scarfed up for scrap. Very few wanted to take an old car and build a racer or hot rod here in the greater Detroit area just after the war and guys like Barney Pollard were in to preservation of the rare and uniques. Considering what the industry and economic times were the "fashion" of a kool car took quite a bit longer to develop. Dad didn't get a feel for kustoms until the early 50s as an apprentice at a little place called Don's Custom Shop in Lincoln Park. Here's one from then, I'm thinking around 51-53:



It was begining to catch on in a big way. He never did have any stories of the likes of an Ed Roth or our resident plowboy because it just wasn't something that was happening yet. He drove a 47 Caddy Sedanette, a big model 62 that was Robin's Egg Blue with shaved handles and an electric decklid among other kustom tricks he'd learned, got that on the road around 54. Motown was crawling with fast full size cars by the early 60s and many of them were decked out pretty special. Chrome and add ons were getting easy and places like Gratiot Auto Supply advertised on TV. Dad was still stuck in his way and world of things, like the older cars modded up, never cared for mags and speed equipment. Just a brief look into growing up with one who really did do it back then and left me a permanent vision and old practices that still apply in my daily job now and then. This discussion isn't personal. It's supposed to fun.

 

I could say what I'm thinking, but it would be counterproductive and pretty rude. I'm done with this thread.

 

Me too.....lead them to water, but ya can't make them drink.

 

a few examples...

 

every time I hear someone saying period this or period that here I puke.

 

DAMN. I REALLY wanted to sign off on this thing, but here we go. I only see one car there with wide whites. The others are all 1" whitewalls which any number of us have already pointed out are period correct on alloy wheels. Unless thats the point you are making.

 

let me tell you, as a magazine editor for a "traditional" style magazine, i have to deal with on a daily basis. i love these debates. i turn cars down all the time because of a lame ass late model part on a "period" build. it has already been stated several times: "build your car any way you want, but if you are building a traditional car there are guidlines." thats all there is to it. if you dont see it that way, you are not into period builds, and that is fine, but the hamb is dedicated to period builds. i have been referred to as a traditional nazi, and i am way ok with that.

 

almost all the photos i ran accross were black walls or pinners. the coupe was the only shot i found with a wider white wall. for the record, i personally dont care for a www on a mag wheel.

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Getting this thread back on the original subject.. I agree with you about WWW on mag wheels. Like the pic of the Corvette, thin whitewalls look great with mags.

BTW...you edit a great traditional rod and kulture car magazine! I especally like the features on early-mid 60's style customs.

 

ROFL! Me too, how can you tell? I say "thats it, this thread is headed for the gutter" two posts later, I'm at it again. Its like heroin. FWIW, I have a couple photos here and there of cars with alloy wheels and wide whites. Almost all of them date from a brief 6 month period around the end of '63 and the beginning of '64, which was right around the time WWW's faded from popularity, and alloy wheels started to come on line. This is also the time frame for the wide whites on the Little Coffin and Andy Kazzas car, and it marks the death of the WWW. For every period photo I have of a car with alloy wheels and WWW's I can dig up a few thousand with blackwalls or pinners. So as long as you stick to the alloy wheels that were available in the first couple months of '64, straight spoke torque-trusts, small-window halibrands, genuine steel rim Raders, and Astro Supremes, and dont run any other parts on the car that are readily indentifiable as being later than the first few months of '64, its period correct (Ratfink, try gravol, it helps). Cragars, torque-thrust D's or anything else that came on the scene after this time frame. Sorry, you cant even make the case. Modern, fantasy land, hollywood romance, history revisionist bullshit.

 

Oh, and Zombie, I do read your mag.

 

Agreed. "Period correct" is the classic car guy's equivalent of "my dick is bigger than yours."

 

I got em on my 48 sedan

 

This is like when my wife asks me "do these pants make me look fat"?????

no correct answer here... ooooh of course not.....

(keeps my teeth where they belong)!!

I like em.. of course I can go either way... trad or not so trad..

 

I'm OK with the wheels but I say we ban him for starting this thread.

 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Alright I've laughed enough you guys got me eating like a tin of that cheese,butter,carmel popcorn a day with this shit! To the O.P. could it have been run in the sixties YES would it have probably NOT!!! Should you??? YOU DECIDE! just dont try and pass it as "back in the day"... But WTF do I know, was I there, no and I run those goofy as 10 spoke ets and disc brakes but something about shattering an ancient 12 spoke breadstick spindle mount on a launch or NOT being able to slow from 115mph in a short shutdown scares me so NAH if my car wasn't getting beat on I'd run 'em. Guess I'm a pussy! Please yourself and fuck anyone who won't give ya a hand? wait that might please them too.... Ah Hell Fuck Em let em have their opinions!

 

Sorry, I guess you were just in the moment. I haven't been signed on here long either but have been checking it out time to time since this vintage revival thing really started building momentum. It's special in that it's not just another hot rod site and many the new guys don't seem to get it.

As far as the OPs question goes, I'm not feelin' the combo either, although it would be technically possible mid to late '60s.

 

X3...I like em !!! You ask a simple question and deserve a civil answer.
(and please ignore all the other crap)

 

Forgive me but I'm ignorant of the protocol for car shows. But your choice of wheels determines whether or not you get into a car show? Is the show that important that you will allow it to dictate what you do to your car?

 

Okay guys....which is it? We've read absolutely not, they're not traditional, not period correct...it wasn't done ad nauseum. But, now we discover it was actually done, but not widely.Yes, but only for a brief time. So.... now that we know...whether you like them or not aside...are the mags and WWW gonna get Dimebag banned or not?

 

Who cares, is there a "Traditional Gay parade"? Where do I sign up?

 

I am really surprised that no one has mentioned the Toyota in this post. He is from B.C. so I guess it is okay to buy that crap for someone else to drive up there. I like the wheels if that means anything.

 

I don't know how you guys can make statements like that and still be hanging around here.

To those that say "Fuck 'em all" and "Do what you want"... I indirectly blame you for rat rods. It's attitudes like that that fuel the rat rod movement, and you should be ashamed of yourself.

You may not care how it was done, and if you REALLY don't... I don't know why you are here... especially if you don't want to learn, like the OP guy does. I applaud him for starting to build a ratty POS, and then seeing the light, and seeking help in striving for something that makes more sense. Nothing wrong with that..

 

That part is only referring to the Pileup and a few other shows. The rule was made to weed out cars with MODERN mags showing up. Just like a car posted here with 22" Foose wheels, wrong place wrong time. Carry on and have a nice day.

 

You'll totally get banned, you'll be a total outcast to the car scene and its very likely you'll get your drivers license revoked, but worse yet all of the "Traditional Banditos" will come to your house and declare marshall law on your front lawn and landscaping..... thats right Traditional Bandito Marshall Law, TBML for short, you ever hear of it? Probably not because its quite exclusive, I'm talking Skull and Bones shit here... And by marshall law I mean pooping and peeing and no not in the hot Asian porn kind kind of way... You ever step in a man sized shit pile in house shoes? Not a pretty site, good luck with that..


Damn dude u for real? Do what you want, if YOU like them then get them..forget what others think, its YOUR CAR and they're f-kin wheels, run them for a while and if later you decide that you want something different then change up.. 20 lug nuts later and done deal, its not like you planning on grafting a Hyundai Sonata front end to it...Although that may further up your chances on that hot Asian porn thing

Good luck whatever you do Bro!

 

best thing to do as far as the shows go is contact them, i'd be surprised if they caused you too much trouble as they do look "like" a 60's style wheel, mostly the rule is to weed out the big bling wheels and what not.

as far as running WWW with em, it's been done, on some cars it even looks OK, Sibley's and Plowboy's cars come to mind. On your car, I would say "not so much", course that's my opinion but you did ask for opinions...

 

I'll ditto on this one too.

 

If you are seriously new to this concept... shows like Billetproof and VLV have been screening cars for years. Granted some things get in that shouldn't.. but some of the earliest rules were "No Billet Wheels." If you had the Isky T and it was rolling on shiny new Intro wheels, you parked outside the gate and walked in. It's been going on all over the country in places that care...

If you show up at a dog show with a cat, or a vegan party with a steak...

 

Some of us who weren't "there" are doing just that, and then being told by the older "know-it-alls" that just because it is in old photgraphs from BITD, that it really wasn't like that....that "just because" there are a few pics that it wasn't traditional....
So whos' right? The old pics, or the OLD man.....

Pretty fucked up.....especially considering 90% of cars here wouldn't be considered a "period" car....

I'll stick to believing old pics....they don't have OPINIONS......