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V8-60 front axles: an appreciation

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 50Fraud, Jun 22, 2009.

  1. steel rebel
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    They are getting hard to find but not imposable. Von Franko found one. I still see them at swaps. So if you gotta have one as I did they are still out there.
     

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  2. Fe26
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    That may have been me Bruce, I know how fond you are of Pitman Arms from earlier posts. Two tests are made, if both tests score an acceptable mark the part is passed. If one test is low and the other a pass, the readings are averaged. If the average is still below the desired mark a third test is made, if the second average reading is still below the mark, the part is scrapped.
    So two indents = pass with flying colours
    Three indents = scraped in by the skin of your teeth


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    These axels could be made in an Industrail Blacksmiths Forge. It would be a fairly straight forward process, but the tooling would be quite expensive. For so few axels made I wonder if someone didn't get their fingers burned. Maybe it seemed like a good idea at the time...

    Is it just me or do others also think these axels look better without holes drilled along the length. </O:p>
     
  3. titus
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    got this thing off of the "bay" about a year ago, i cant remember, my dad called me and said, "look at this axle and see if it is what it looks like" the add was for this axle on a buy it now for $325, i said it sure does, hit the buy it now button and this showed up at my door! very nice chrome too.

    JEFF
     

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  4. donut29
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    from canton MI

    Am I crazy for wanting to drill and sleeve one.

    My brother has one under his 34000 original mile 37 hump back nicest one I have ever seen
     
  5. No holes - I reckon, much prettier without
     
  6. 3day
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    i've just removed a nice original dropped I beam for a V8 60 axle cos they look so good (and i wanted the car a little higher). Just needs chroming though now!
     
  7. 3day
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    sorry pic didn't attach... hopefully now attached!
     

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  8. johnny bondo
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    you could make a copy that would look pretty close with some tube, a tubing roller/bender, and some steel stock on the lathe, weld it together and then grind it smooth and metal finish it.
     
  9. steel rebel
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    Why bother I think they are still around for about $400. I'm going to Turlock Ca. swap at the end of the month. I'll take my camera and if I see any I'll take some pictures.
     
  10. johnny bondo
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    400 dollars is a lot of money.... with 100 dollars you could make one if you had the tools.
     
  11. steel rebel
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    You could but it wouldn't be the same. It might look like it but it wouldn't be it. If that doesn't bother you go to it. I'll spend the $.

    After some thought I have come to the conclusion that everybody doesn't share my obsession with original parts. If someone could make a tube axle with the same "smile" as the original part their might be a market for it. I saw a beautifully done "Kookie Tribute Car" (is how he billed it) at a Minn. show a few years ago. It looked right on until you got up close and it had an Olds. rather than a Cad. engine and other not right pieces. He had done such a great job making the front tube axle that he had to tell me it wasn't an original V860. I say go ahead and make it and sell them to guys who don't mind fiberglass bodies and 350 Chevy. engines and leave the old stuff to us who can't compromise.
     
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  12. titus
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    heres a pic of another 60 hourse axle i just got, its perch bolt bosses are seperate from the axle, and just spot welded on, one of mine fell off.


    I also stuck a flashlight in to look down the tube and as far as i could see there were no part lines in the tubing or and welded ends.

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    JEFF
     
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  13. I like them they say Race Car to me.

    I wish I could get my hands on a straight one cheap or borrow one to build prints off of and pull a template from. I have an idea that I would like to get worked out.

    I'm pretty sure that a lot of them did rust away. Think about it you know how bad an old forged axle that has set in a field look now think about if it was sheet metal.

     
  14. carbuilder
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    I picked on up at the last swap meet for my 36 roadster it has some minor pitting. What is the best way to fill the pits tig or mig. I want to get it dropped & maybe crome plated dont know on that yet.
     
  15. Harms Way
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    I have a entire front suspension with one,... I was going to knock it apart this summer sometime,... I have no immediate need for the axle,.. SO,.. If your willing to pay shipping both ways (or if you or somebody you know is planning a trip to Michigan,... come and get it) ,... you could use this one as long as you need it,... (Within reason :D ),... Just a thought.
     
  16. Dave Zapatka
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    I got one a year ago for $400.00 and I think I stole it !
     
  17. titus
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    so the chrome one i got above for $150 was a good deal?:)
     
  18. I'm game. Summer gives me a chance to save up some money for shipping. Let me know when you have it apart.

    I should be able to turn it around pretty quick. So it shouldn't be here forever.

    I know that there are fellas that don't care for them I just always thought they were as nifty as pockets in a T shirt. I do stand with the no drill crowd on this subject BTW. I just never have liked the look of a tube axle with holes in it. V-8 60 or otherwise.
     
  19. alchemy
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    That doesn't beat the old chrome axle I got last fall, with some old chrome hotrod wishbones and batwings, for $75.
     
  20. Harms Way
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    Pictures ?????,... I'm waiting :D
     
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    Bumping an older thread...

    Since this thread had a big part in me deciding to use a V8/60 axle on the Chemical City Coupe, I figured it would be fitting to post a pic or two.


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    A big thanks to all who have contributed to this thread.



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  22. Nobey
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    Bob where did you ever find that picture? That Staggar Valve Fronty
    is one of only five produced. This particular car latter belonged to
    Bob Estes and was repainted yellow with red trim. The Frontys where
    very fast with a 60% win ratio. I redid the car for Bob in the nineties.
    Still has the (37) front axle. Everyone calls them a 37 axle, but I have
    seen them in 38s & 39s as well. Rich

    Side Note: Glen Meyer was killed in this car in N.Y.
     
  23. 3wLarry
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    I just happen to have a beautifully chromed one in my shop right now...getting ready to sell it for a friend for $1000...obo :eek:
     
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  24. Fenders
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    I have a Speedway catalog with the same page layout, pictures and information, right down to the price of all the axles.... the only difference is my page number is 71.

    My catalog is from 1983, and I'd be surprised if prices didn't change from 1960 to 1983.....
     
  25. Wardog
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    I bought this one at a swap meet and know nothing about it. I don't think it is an original, you can see it was welded at 45 &#176; and it has a 3/16 hole in the centre underneath.

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  26. 117harv
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    ^^^ that's not a V8-60, it's a Superbell tube axle.
     
  27. The37Kid
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    I love it when an old HAMB thread gets retured to the top, thank you daddyo's diner, great looking Coupe! The photo in question is in post #62, I had no idea it was the same car I saw in the Cunninghan collection back in 1974, beautiful restoration Nobey! Some time in the 1980's I saw the Jimmy Franklin Stagger Valve Fronty at Hershey. Not bad, seeing 2 of the 5 built. :) Bob
     
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  28. Yeah if that doesn't sell the axle I don't know what will! I've got a nice one hanging on the wall. Can't wait to spiff it up.
     
  29. 3day
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    from UK

    all chromed up
     

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  30. brokenspoke
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    I bought one a couple year ago at LSRR....I havent used it yet....as its a wall hanger....I should do something with it.....
     

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