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  1. MrFire
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    THANKS, everybody, on the mystery "Hunt." I too had thought about '23, and though the angle wasn't great, I thought maybe Leach -- certainly not Hunt and not as early as 1910. As Bob/37Kid suggested, the OWNER name seemed to make sense. But I still wondered how the eBay seller could be so sure, yet so wrong.

    Well, turns out that Twin 6 had the answer and, in fact, had posted the SAME pic earlier this thread (ID'd then, don't know). But BOTTOM LINE:

    1924 Flint !!!

    Thanks, Twin!
     
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    LGS said: The Standard Catalog says that maybe only a prototype was built of the 1920 Hunter.

    Thanks, LGS, gotta be a rare to extinct bird, the Hunter. And a photo or ad drawing would probably be near impossible to find! Most lists I looked at yesterday didn't even list it. And one or two that did had NO background info at all.

    I envy those with a copy of the Standard Catalogue!
     
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    I love the HAMB; often times, a puzzling question gets answered the SAME day! HJManiac, over on the extinct makes thread, had some more info, helping to explain that the pictured '24 FLINT actually featured bodywork by Hayes-Hunt. I found it pretty darn interesting, so maybe you all will too!

    To wit: "Another Hayes organization appeared in November 1922, this time in Elizabeth, New Jersey. The Hayes-Hunt Corp. purchased a 500,000 sq. ft. plant to supply the Elizabeth, New Jersey and Long Island City, New York Durant Motor Co. factories with closed bodies. Hayes-Hunt built over 400 bodies per day for the various Durant marques which included the Durant, Star and Flint automobiles. Hayes-Hunt is also listed as production body builders for Marmon, Reo and Graham.
    "H. Jay Hayes was president of the firm and even established an office in nearby New York City to oversee his small body-building empire. In a surprising move, the faltering Durant Motors purchased the entire Hayes-Hunt operations outright on May 24, 1928."



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    What is it? 1905 auto, THANKS to American-Automobiles.com.
     
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    Identified, THANKS to Twin6! WINTON!
     
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    Okay, okay, don't laugh! I should know this radiator shell, but the make won't come to mind. Fairly expensive car, I think (?). Marmon, maybe??? Jordan? (Essex?)

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    LINCOLN around 1921-22 with the painted radiator shell. Answer in four minutes.:D
     
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    http://www.studenthandouts.com/Gallery/WH10/10.10.Gallery.WWI.03.htm

    "A tank in action. Infantrymen are advancing up hill, behind the tank. The tank is propelled and steered by two caterpillar treads moved like belts, an American invention. The caterpillar treads were invented by James B. Hill (of Ohio and Louisiana), who referred to the contraption as "apron traction" (originally designed as part of the Buckeye Traction Ditcher)"
     
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    I have a picture of my uncle Victor from 1923 but I can't make out the badge on the radiator shell. Anyone here know?
    Thanks....
     
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    I've got something wrong.
    Sorry, I'll try it later with the pic.
     

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    That Franklin had a 4 cylinder engine mounted crosswise in front. Maybe the driver was cross.
     
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    Opening a can of worms here:D, according to wiki:-

    In 1877, a Russian, Fyodor Blinov, created a tracked vehicle called "wagon moved on endless rails" (caterpillars).<sup id="cite_ref-blinov_3-0" class="reference"></sup> It lacked self-propulsion—it was pulled by horses, instead. Blinov got a patent for his "wagon" the next year. Later, in 1881-1888 he created a steam-powered caterpillar-tractor. This self-propelled crawler was successfully tested and showed at a farmer's exhibition in 1896.

    An effective continuous track was invented and implemented by Alvin Lombard for the Lombard Steam Log Hauler. He was granted a patent in 1901. He built the first steam-powered log hauler at the Waterville Iron Works in Waterville, Maine, the same year. In all, 83 Lombard steam log haulers are known to have been built up to 1917, when production switched entirely to internal combustion engine powered machines, ending with a Fairbanks diesel powered unit in 1934. Undoubtedly, Alvin Lombard was the first commercial manufacturer of the tractor crawler. At least one of Lombard's steam-powered machines apparently remains in working order.<sup id="cite_ref-4" class="reference"></sup> A gasoline powered Lombard hauler is on display at the Maine State Museum in Augusta.

    At about the same time a British agricultural company, Hornsby in Grantham, developed a continuous track which was patented in 1905.<sup id="cite_ref-5" class="reference"></sup> The design differed from modern tracks in that it flexed in only one direction with the effect that the links locked together to form a solid rail on which the road wheels ran. Hornsby's tracked vehicles were given trials as artillery tractors by the British Army on several occasions between 1905 and 1910, but not adopted. The patent was purchased by American Benjamin Holt. The Hornsby tractors featured the track-steer clutch arrangement, which is the basis of the modern crawler operation, and some say an observing British soldier quipped that it crawled like a caterpillar. The word was shrewdly trademarked and defended by Holt.

    American James B. Hill, working in Bowling Green, Wood County, Ohio, patented what he termed "apron traction"<sup id="cite_ref-6" class="reference"></sup> on September 24, 1907.

    Following a merger and name change, The Holt Manufacturing Company became the Caterpillar Tractor Company in 1925.
     
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    Percy Maxim invent the first machinegun, the MAXIM gun. It evolved, as I recall, into the Vickers, plus other autos, including gas-ops. We should look for pix of that. Lots would have been mounted on vehicles.
     
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    Have to check to see if it was he or his son that was building cars for Pope, his book Horseless Carriage Days is great, came out in 1929. When I find it I'll post photos. :)
     

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