Just wondering if anyone on here has used this product. Will be spraying the coupe on Wednesday with DBC base coat and was thinking about this clear so as to get a more satin finish. My concerns are since you do not sand and buff this and I dont paint in a booth there might be some dust issue. Also wondering if down the road this can be topcoated with the more traditional clear and then sanded and buffed for that glossy look. Any info will be appreciated.
I've painted it in my garage in what would be called terrible conditions and it came out good. Don't stir the dust up right before you spray it. If you blow out your garage wait a couple of days before shooting. Another tip is strain the clear with doubled filters. If not strained good you will get little white spots. Also i like to add a little extra reducer. maybe 10 percent. With a minimum 2 coats. I like 2. Not sure about the clearing over it. I guess I need to try it. I would think it would come out milky. Clark
Another thing I would like to add is make sure car is clean washed ,wheel wells and underside hood ,Lots of hidden dust there also undercar ,This is just a general statement ,,,,,,,,,
As for dust in satin or flat paint "it is what it is" what comes out of the gun is what you have. I know the paint companys have been trying to find solutions for this. I have heard matte finishes are getting popular with high end cars like lambos, mercedes, etc. I believe you could scuff and re-clear with shiny clear if you wanted
my painter is using dupont's version of flex and flat product and he's having some issues with it. seeing some satin paint jobs i thought that some striping was inevitable, although he found it unacceptable. and the recent detroit auto show had some satin/flat paint jobs that were flawless. so is there some "trick" to avoid the striping effect? it's on a 66 cadillac with a gunmetal base. the striping isn't too obvious but you can see it in certain light, at a certian angle. right now there is two coats of the matte clear on it. does it maybe need another coat to even it out? sorry to dig this thread up but have you guys had any more experiences with this type of product?
Hey, If there's any '' trick '' to shooting a mat or semi-mat finish, and avoid the dredded ''tiger striping'' it's proper gun triggering and reduction of the finish. You've got to shoot this type of product much like it was an old acrylic enamel. There's no hope of coloursanding and wheeling making you look like you knew what you were doing to begin with! Full 50% overlap on your pattern, proper reduction & correct distance + proper triggering. I don't like flattened clears, PERIOD! a clear coat, even a preminum one, has a full time job protecting the base from the sun's UVs plus the heat. You add flattner (usually ground pumice) to the clear, and now the clear's binder , urethane resin, now has to do double duty of holding the flattened clear together plus, protecting the base. " All great truths begin as blasphemies "
so since it already has two coats of clear on it do you think that if we sand it down with 1200 and give it another go it would do more harm than good? it's weird the first coat was perfect. but the recommended second coat is what made it look striped.
Probably wouldn't hurt. The first coat over any freshly sanded surface usually flows well because there is little or no friction between the sanded surface, and the coat just shot. If too long a period between the first and second coat goes by, or the first coat wasn't shot wet enough, a rough second coat can be expected. Proper reduction, plus proper pressure @ the gun, plus proper distance from the guns' spray tip to the surface being sprayed together with a 50% overlap on your spray pattern equals a well sprayed surface. " Don't drink the Kool-Aid "
I'd follow Clarks directions closely and youi'll be okie dokie. The truck in the pic has 2 coats of Flex-n-Flat with a 75% overlap when spraying. No striping/modeling of any type within the finish. Seeing that the PPG tech sheet says that you can add standard clear to vary the amount of sheen I'd say go for it.
with the dupont product, the mixing ratios are specified as "semi-gloss", "eggshell", and "flat". was it like that with the ppg? i want a satin finish similar to yours. i've also noticed that it seems to have dyed back more over the last few days and it now looks pretty flat. the color is a gunmetal so it basically looks like primer, which isn't what i was going for, i think if it was a little more glossy it would look alot better.
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