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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by sic7cadi, Feb 21, 2011.

  1. sic7cadi
    Joined: Jan 14, 2011
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    sic7cadi
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    from Hensley,AR

    I was just wanting to hear what any of you who have delt with this company is. I'm looking into buying their 390/429 headers for my cadillac but have read very few good reviews and almost all bad ones. They are the only company who makes a header for my engine and I feel if I replace the cracked manifold with a used one it will most likely crack again bc the car is a car that gets drove almost everyday.
     
  2. Gman0046
    Joined: Jul 24, 2005
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    Had them on a 350 in a 46 Ford for over 10 years and never had a problem.
     
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  3. WAY overpriced. If your Caddy motor is stock and not in need of headers, put some used exh manifolds back on it after trueing them on a belt sander for a few minutes
     
  4. sic7cadi
    Joined: Jan 14, 2011
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    sic7cadi
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    from Hensley,AR

    I'm having a hard time finding a stock manifold.. It seems everyone has already sold the p***enger side to someone else with my problem
     
  5. I've run a set of their block huggers on a sbc for 5 years with no problems.
     
  6. 49ratfink
    Joined: Feb 8, 2004
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    49ratfink
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    from California

    very expensive. I bought some for my 49 Chevy before I went with Mustang II since they were the only ones offering headers for stock steering.

    had no quality problems, just general header problems. finally got some sort of locking header bolts and different gaskets and it all worked.
     
  7. sic7cadi
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    sic7cadi
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    from Hensley,AR

    sweet! I was hoping most of what I was reading from their unhappy customers was on custom build headers.. I may go ahead and get a set soon and pray for the best since it is one of their offered headers. I was reading a lot about wire from the welder inside the headers and not lining up with the exhaust ports but it was looking like they was talkin about custom built
     
  8. sic7cadi
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    sic7cadi
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    from Hensley,AR

    also it the coating worth the extra $150 I'm not building the car for show.. I use it to drive and have fun in like i believe they should be
     
  9. 49ratfink
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    from California


    I didn't get the coating because I'm a cheap ***. is it a thermal coating to keep down the heat?

    having no coating didn't bother me, but the car never sat out in the cold overnite, and was never driven in the rain, so not sure how that would effect the rust issues. mine stayed pretty clean over the 3 years I drove it.
     
  10. derelict
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    Good outfit with a good product.
     
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  11. patrick66
    Joined: May 14, 2008
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    Bought a used set of Sanderson blockhuggers for a BB Mopar several years ago and installed them in a '70 Dodge D100 pickup --- worked great, no leaks.
     
  12. herb65
    Joined: Feb 4, 2011
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    from iowa

    Had them on a 351 cleveland for years and never had a problem.Only one that made them for the app. and good customer service.
     
  13. coupemerc
    Joined: Jul 16, 2007
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    I bought a set of block huggers back in 2005 for my Merc. They were the only ones that would clear the stock steering box. They were expensive but I have had zero problems.
     
  14. Von Rigg Fink
    Joined: Jun 11, 2007
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    from Garage

    Ive got a set of block huggers on a 327, so far 4 years no problems. It dont get driven much, and its garage kept, so for what thats worth to ya
     
  15. wirebender
    Joined: Dec 14, 2009
    Posts: 59

    wirebender
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    from Illinois

    I've had a set of long tube,ceramic coated,for 6 years. They fit very well.I had some rust issues 2 years ago. I called them ,sent them back ,they recoated them free of charge. All it cost me was the ride back.
     
  16. Vergil
    Joined: Dec 10, 2005
    Posts: 785

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    Running Sanderson Coated hugger center dump headers on both of my av8's, like them a lot.

    Vergi;l
     
  17. falconsprint63
    Joined: May 17, 2007
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    from Mayberry

    keep us caddy guys posted about how they work. fit, quality etc.
     
  18. hot rod rod
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    hot rod rod
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    A Very Good Product...with Great results !.
     
  19. sic7cadi
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    sic7cadi
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    from Hensley,AR

    I aim putting my order in tomorrow with them. I'm going to go ahead and get the coated headers hoping to get more life out of them. I did think of one concern with them though, my p***enger manifold is also part of my alt. bracket I'm hoping they address this with their headers. I will ask tomorrow before I order them
     
  20. Russ B
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    No complaints here on an 18 year old set of sbc block huggers in the '29 CC PU. I always would feel better getting uncoated, fitting them, adding any needed dings for a better fit, and then getting them coated if need be. The sbc set and full exhaust system was hi-temp powder coated up in White City, OR way back when, and is still doing OK.

    I have another set of their headers for my 392, but we got them only partially ***embled because we knew up front the fit was going to be tricky in my '51. I never did get them coated and they are still doing fine after about ten years.
     
  21. diegochero
    Joined: Jan 17, 2010
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    Very pricey stuff, but good quality. Installed some in a customer's off topic car, had minor fit issues, but nothing that couldn't be dealt with. Love the thick plate = no gasket idea, but damn there spendy!
     
  22. TwinTownTerror
    Joined: Dec 13, 2010
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    from Minnesota

    Buy them bare, make needed adjustments or whatever and then get some steel-it to coat them with. It is not shown on there website but if you email them or call them they can get you the info for their exhaust coating. Stuff is awesome!!! Cures by driving, and looks like clean freshly blasted steel when done.

    http://www.steel-it.com/
     
  23. had them on a 56 nomad years ago no probem
     
  24. sic7cadi
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    sic7cadi
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    from Hensley,AR

    Awesome I will have to check that coating out.. Do you know about what the cost of it is?
     
  25. Johnny1290
    Joined: Apr 20, 2006
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    Mine are coated and have never leaked on my SBC. 50fraud gave me a killer deal on his old ones. The car has been parked outside(so cal mind you) for years and no rust issues or anything even sitting in my friends backyard for a year. So it wasn't driven much but started regularly , FWIW. I never used an exhaust gasket.

    I know it' s not just me, I've overheard guys at swapmeets talking about her too.

    Nice headers, though.

    I have to think *maybe* some negative reviews are colored by her special brand of customer service.

    EDIT: I just did a google for "donna" and "sanderson" and there's a lot of less than stellar reviews LOL

    Just do a control f find on the page and type in donna, it's good for a laugh

    [​IMG]
     
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  26. sic7cadi
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    sic7cadi
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    from Hensley,AR

    I think it is Donna that is giving her a bad name from what i read.. between her at***ude and people expecting custom one off sets to be perfect.. It seems most everyone here is happy with them. I feel a lot better after everyones input so far about them and will be ordering them first thing tomorrow.
     
  27. The shop I worked for was/is a dealer. I sold dozens of sets. First hand experiences here. Caveat Emptor
     
  28. TwinTownTerror
    Joined: Dec 13, 2010
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    TwinTownTerror
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    from Minnesota

    This is what they sent me about a year ago.

    Please find attached the Data sheets for item# 7156 that you are looking for. This Item comes in Gallons and Quarts.

    Item# 7156G - There are (4) gallons per case at $130.15 per gallon. Single gallons are $194.41/ea.
    Item# 7156Q - There are (6) quarts per case at $38.24 per quart. Single quarts are $57.12 /ea.

    Both items are in stock.




    Quart and you can do a few sets of exhaust. A few years back I coated a buddies manifolds with this stuff. He was running dirt track modifieds and he loved it. Next thing I knew I was doing all the other guys' manifolds too for cases of beer! They all loved it.
     
    Last edited: Feb 21, 2011
  29. TwinTownTerror
    Joined: Dec 13, 2010
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    from Minnesota

    This was attached in that same email too.

    STEEL IT High Temp Metallic Blend Coating #7156
    STEEL IT High Temp Metallic Blend #7156 is a multi-metal pigmented modified silicone
    finish designed for use on smoke stacks, exhaust manifolds, boiler doors and other high
    temperature applications where surface temperatures normally or frequently exceed 300°F, to
    provide a unique combination of high temperature and corrosion resistance. Two coats,
    applied at 3 dry mils each, will provide a singular degree of protections against water,
    corrosion and high temperature.
    STEEL IT High Temp Metallic Blend #7156 air dries under ambient temperature conditions,
    and may so be placed into light-moderate duty service. STEEL IT High Temp #7156 will air
    dry to touch in approximately 1 hour, after which time it may be recoated. For optimum
    corrosion resistance, the dried films should be baked at 400°F for a minimum of 30 minutes.
    Baking of two and three coat applications may be carried out after all applications have been
    made and allowed to fully dry.
    STEEL IT High Temp Metallic Blend # 7156 is self priming. Other primers are neither
    required nor recommended, although all steel surfaces should be clean and free of all
    contamination. Surfaces should be dry and sandblasted to at least a commercial quality
    (SSPC SP 6). For all high temperature applications a white metal quality (SSPC SP 5) is
    recommended. An adequate cut anchor pattern of 1.5 – 2.5 mils is recommended for
    optimized adhesion under extreme conditions.
    Protects Steel from: High heat exposure, especially when also
    exposed to atmospheric environments.
    Uses: For Structural and Miscellaneous Steel
    Exposed to Temperatures up to 1200°F
    Boiler Doors, Manifolds, Headers and
    Exhausts
    Long term Atmospheric Service
    System Recommendations: General Use – Low to Moderate
    Temperature Service Range( 300 - 600°F)
    Mild Atmospheric Exposure
    2 coats of STEEL IT #7156 for a total of 6
    mils DFT (Dry Film Thickness)
    Heavy Duty Use - High Temp
    Service Range (600 - 1200°F)
    Long Term Atmospheric Service
    3 coats of STEEL IT #7156 for a total of 9
    mils DFT (Dry Film Thickness)
    STEEL IT High Temp Metallic Blend #7156 Stainless Steel Coatings, Inc. Page 2 of 3
    Surface Preparation: General Use: Sandblast to at least a
    commercial grade blast (SSPC-SP-6)
    Heavy Duty Use: Sandblast to white
    metal (SSPC- SP-5). Cut or angular anchor
    pattern (1.5 – 2.5 mils deep)
    Film Thickness: General Use – 2 coats of 3 dry mils each
    (Total 6 mils DFT minimum).
    Heavy Duty Use – 3 coats of 3 dry mils each
    (Total 9 mils DFT minimum)
    Application: Spraying is the preferred application method.
    Conventional spray techniques employ a
    Binks #62 gun or equivalent with a 68PB Air
    Cap and a 66 Fluid Tip.
    Airless applications employ a DeVilbiss JGB
    – 501 airless gun or equivalent with a Fluid
    Tip Orifice of between 0.015" and 0.021".
    Pump Ratio should be at least 28:1. Other
    compatible combinations may work.
    Drying Time: Dry to Touch in about 1 hour. Allow 60
    minutes between coats. Fully Dry in
    approximately 24 hours.
    When fully dry, bake at 400° F for 30
    minutes (minimum) for full cure
    Where baking is not possible, the system will
    cure over time, with the heat of being in
    service.
    Coverage: Theoretical Coverage at 3 dry mils is 165
    sq. ft. / gal.
    In practice these values will be reduced by
    loss factors. For Practical Coverage
    estimate at 125 square feet / gallon
    Thin and Clean Up: Thinning is not recommended - only when
    mandatory for ease of application.
    For clean up use Xylene or Hi-flash
    Naphtha
    STEEL IT High Temp Metallic Blend #7156 Stainless Steel Coatings, Inc. Page 3 of 3
    Limitations: Apply only when surface temperatures are
    above 40° F
    Apply only when Relative Humidity is less
    than 86%
    Surface Temperature must be at least 5° F
    above Dew Point.
    Color: Metallic Gray
    Sheen: Very Low Gloss
    Total Solids: By weight: 51%
    By volume: 31%
    Weight per Gallon: 12.2 lbs.
    Shelf Life: 1 year
    V.O.C. 497 grams/liter (4.15 lbs / gal)
     
  30. squirrel
    Joined: Sep 23, 2004
    Posts: 59,938

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    Buying headers coated is risky...headers usually require a little bit of m***aging to fit, and if they're coated then you have to damage the coating to make them fit.

    Daily driver, headers kinda down low on the engine, I'd just paint them.
     

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