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Tractor Supply Implement paint

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Kirk Hanning, Feb 22, 2011.

  1. Kirk Hanning
    Joined: Feb 27, 2005
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    I just came from my local TSC and looked closely at their tractor & implement enamel. They now carry a "restoration Series" style of the same paint for more $$. Standard being at $32.99 vs. $49.99 for the Restoration Series. Although the Restoration Series specifically says that it is an automotive paint that is intended to be sprayed vs. brush, roll or spray with the other. You can add enamel hardner to either product. Does anyone have any real world experience it at all?
     
  2. 53sled
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    its all in the prep work. cheap nason paint at oreilly can look great, if properly prepped.
     
  3. Mitchell Rish
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    Have used that exact paint with very good results . Indeed it is in the prep of the item being painted . I even cleared the stuff once - did pretty good for the money . No its not House of Color mode , but not many old school vehicles had that nice a paint when they were show room new.
     
  4. Kirk Hanning
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    I've painted quite a few cars but using PPG & HOK products with great results. I was just looking to see what else is out there on the low $$$.
     
  5. We have ford tractor grey on the ravens 27 roadster. it is the restoration quality paint sprayed on. Durable paint and good finish.
     
  6. Kirk Hanning
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    Was that using the straight "tractor & impliment paint" or the "restoration series"? I'll prolly buy a quart of each and see how the results differ as it's cheap enuff.
     
  7. pitman
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    Thinkin back to '67-'72, the enamels also benefited from mild temps and no visiting bugs or wind. Used to make a loop of masking tape inside out on the left hand (non-spraying)
    and if, ahem, IF a run appeared, the tape could be laid in and rolled upward to remove the drip.
     
  8. Kirk Hanning
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    My main objective is having a durable finish with a not so ultra shiny finish like modern paint & clears. Just trying to mimick a paint job of yester year more less.......and if it's cheap to boot why not give it a shot. By the sounds of it seems like a good way to go. Just like everything else I'll be spraying a test panel or 2 first.
     
  9. We used the restoration series. That was 2 or 3 years ago they had it @ tractor supply here at about 38.00 a gallon.

    Very good gloss.
     
  10. the-rodster
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    Massey Ferguson Grey



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  11. Kirk Hanning
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    It's just what I wanted to hear & see.......thanks for everyone's input much appreciated.
     
  12. MeanGene427
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    The worst part about the cheapo TSC paint is the fading- it'll look great when new, but the color will fade after a while, especially the brighter colors like International red. This has been discussed at great length and many times on the antique tractor forums- if your stuff spends any time outside and uncovered, it won't look the same after a while
    Yeah, got too much schidt- 6 Farmalls including 4 M's, 2 Fords, a Fergie, and a Case, and my gramps was an IH dealer
     
  13. jez95xj
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    I used regular massey red on my truck.
     
  14. djust
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    Let us know what you think after spraying it Kirk.
    Thinking about using it on my A Sedan.
    Curious about how glossy it turns out, I am looking for a Satin finish.
     
  15. Kirk Hanning
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    I was actually gonna mix International red with a tad of low gloss black to achieve a "dull" dark burgandy. I will defiitely posts some pics after it's sprayed but unfortunately it won't be for about a month or 2. I just finished my garage addition so the body is off to the sand blaster right now.
     
  16. Mr48chev
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    I've used the International Red (newer) spray bombs from International to paint repairs on tractors on the dairy I worked on and it got pressure washed the next day and just about every day after by guys who weren't too careful with the pressure washer and held up good. I'd have to agree that most of that farm equipment paint will fade pretty fast if you let it sit out in the weather for periods of time. Tough paint for a low price but the color selection is limited.
    If this flathead six powered boat tail roadster I'm collecting parts for ever gets off the ground and parts collecting stage I will most likely paint the majority of it the Ford blue.
     
  17. 50dodge4x4
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    Don't know about the tractor supply paint, but our local Farm & Fleet used to carry an implement paint. Looked very good the first year, and began fading in the 2nd year. By the 3rd year it would chip and scratch very easily. About 3 years was all it was good for. The add in hardner seemed to make little difference. They now have added a Vaspar Implement paint to their offerings, but have not tried it yet, but I should repaint the truck this year, so it might get some of that. Our local store can mix the implement paint to whatever color you want, yours should be able to as well. Gene
     
  18. ssimpala
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    I've used the Tractor Supply John Deere green and International red...both faded horribly and needed repaint within 3 years.
     
  19. I'm thinking of using the IH red on my car hauler when I get around to shooting it this Spring. Can't beat it for the money, and especially for the application.

    My trailer is shedded, anyway. The black that was shot on it new in 2000 faded out fairly quickly (I think four years?), so even if it lasts five years looking decent, I'm still ahead.
     
  20. F&J
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    See if you can find out what type of hardener. The reason is, Valspar makes an off brand, "polurethane enamel" for off road equipment/tractors. The place I got mine from told me the hardener is the exact same as single stage urethane auto paint. My daily driver sits out, never garaged for close to 5 years now. Never waxed, washed maybe once a year, and still has not gone dull.

    Poly/enamel dries as fast as SS, and is really resistant to highway stone chips, scratches from branches, etc. Sprayed real nice, too.
     
  21. xlr8
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    I've used quite a bit of the Van Sickle, which is oil based, don't know if the Tractor Supply is oil or not. The thing I've noticed about the oil based paint is that when you're spraying it you need to let it dry a little between coats. If you get it too heavy with a bunch of wet coats in a row, it will take FOREVER to dry, like even up to a week. But if you let it dull out a bit between coats it works fine.
     
  22. mustang9093
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    Take a look at the TCP Global site. I used their Hot Rod Flatz on the roadster with good results. It is single stage, covers well and is pre-flattened. Its been on 3 years and is holding up well, the top of the doors are polished a little but the color holds up well. I painted my truck with their restoration shop single stage blue metallic with the same results. The prices and shipping are very reasonable too.
     
  23. oldcarfart
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    I thought TSC paint was made by Valspar.
     
  24. niceguyede
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    for the price of the tcp global with shipping you can go to your local dupont or ppg jobber and come out ahead. If your ride is going to see more time in the sun than not you're better off going with automotive paint. Every paint supplier on the planet has a cheap line that will outlast anythig a tractor supply will sell. After all, a tractor isnt supposed to be pretty, its just supposed to work!! I've used the nason with really good results, as well as the rm limco, and verious others. If its enamel its going to fade with time but the biggest difference between tractor and auto paint is the chip resistance. You can polish faded but you have to fix chips!! Just my experience though, take it as you will.
     
  25. Country Gent
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    Use it quite alot on my old tractors. They have a few different colors in the restoration colors I mainly do John Deere.When using hardner to the paint, the paint get's very hard to a point it will chip easy. When it chips, it comes loose off the primer like it did not adhere as good as with not using the hardner. The problem with no hardner, not UV freindly. "DULLS UP" By the way, I use the same brand of primer. These are VALSPAR products. If you want a quality AUTO FINISH, stick with AUTOMOTIVE PAINT.(PPG, DUPONT,S.W., Martin Senyor (napa) The normal safe way is not to mix product brands. Go with the same brand from primer to finish. If you have a problem, they can't blame it on a mix of brands. Best thing to do is Call Valspar 1-800 and talk to a tech. Tell them what you have in mind for a finish. MEANEGENE427 also mentioned the fading.
     
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  26. Tacson
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    Wierd I was at Rod builder shop last week and he was telling me about using the paint from TSC!!! You all that have had experience with the Valspar line at TSC do you think the color would hold up better on the frame because the sheetmetal would be covering it? I am working on a driver 56' F100 pickup
     
  27. R Frederick
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    I've done a tractor. Sprays and covers real nice, takes forever to air dry, is real durable but fades/chalky with no maintenance in a couple years. I'm sure a car would be different since it's constantly clean or polished.
     
  28. krazy kory
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    2 parts TSC Ford Blue and 1 part TSC low gloss black. Wet sanded for an aged look.

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    TSC low gloss black. First pic when new second is two years old with miner faiding.
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    To me it works for the price.
     
  29. CutawayAl
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    The paint you asked about is alkyd enamel. That is the same type of enamel old tractors(and old enamel painted cars) were normally painted with. It can look very good when new, but doesn't weather and tolerate sun as well as better more modern alternatives, or even old-school solid lacquer colors. Depending on the paint, as little as a couple years of routine sun can seriously deteriorate alkyd.

    Adding flattener to paint reduces its durability. But, moderately flattened acrylic enamel is more durable than aykyd enamel. If what you are painting really matters, that's what I would do. It's going to cost a little more, but in the long run it's worth it. Experiment with different percentages of flattener until you get the gloss reduction you want. Depending on the flattener and what you want you will likely end up somewhere between 10% and 20%. Adding a catalyst to acrylic enamel makes it "better", but that will add considerable difficulty to consistent flattening and proper application.
     
  30. farmergal
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    we used the Valspar restoration series IH red on my tractor which we finished last fall. it has great sheen and its a great paint. We used a hardener in it and sprayed it with a gun. its currently housed under a breezeway next to the garage and house and its slightly exposed to the elements. I waxed it before bringing it to the fairs to protect it from any rain/wandering fingers. we opted not to put clear coat on top of the paint but i could only imagine what it would look like WITH it!! very pleased with it!

    This tractor isn't used for farm work anymore (although we could use it to do hay) and it's mainly used for fair displays and parades. When it gets dusty and dirty from sitting in the breezeway it comes out to be washed and cleaned.

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    Last edited: Feb 23, 2011

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