An ambitious project (sad pictures)How much would you offer?

A fellow HAMBer, Joe Roberts and I went and looked at what is supposed to be a 27 Studebaker 2 door sedan. The poor thing has been out in the weather since sometime in the sixties. The wood is rotten throughout the car, thus it is collapsing in on itself.
I think that there are still some salvageable parts on the car so I made an offer on it. If the owner sells it to me, it will be quite the adventure just getting this thing loaded in one piece. I'll post more pictures when I figure out how to convert them.

 

You got plenty to work with. I'm thinking I'll make a "sport coupe" with this someday. That grille shell is cool. keep us posted.

 

Good luck, and as you mentioned, be carful loading that old gal....lots can happen if not carefull.....
Nice find by the way !!

 

dig that find...that dash clock is awesome! so big!

 

We will be sure and take pictures as we weed eat, cut down a couple of small trees, fumigate for critters and then load it up.

 

Apparently, I made the owner of this car mad by giving her a lowball offer. I really hate making offers on anything, just give me a price. How much would you guys offer on this car? It has been sitting in the same spot for probably 45 years. The top is completely gone and the cowl and windshield is leaning towards the back half of the car. You cant close the doors because the opening is way too small. No interior(of course) and who knows what lies underneath it. The only upside is that the complete drivetrain is there, untouched. The fenders may be salvageable along with the grille shell. I know very little about these pre-war cars and any help would be appreciated. I hate to see this car return to Mother Earth but that may be it's fate.

 

What did you offer?

 

$250.00

 

I really don't like making offer's on stuff like that... everyone's idea of what it's worth is different... I don't think your offer was too far out?

 

im not big on offers either...just tell me what you want and will go from there

 

I tried to get them to give me some kind of starting point. Now they are researching the car and want other opinions. Like I said before, I'm sure this car will add iron to the soil.

 

Got News!!! He's probably not going to have them knocking the door down to bid on it....

 

$250.00 ?? probably sell the headlights, grille and gauge panel for that.

 

I don't think that's too far out of line. Its not like you are going to turn around and sell the parts for a mint I don't see a deuce grille shell sitting in there anywhere.

 

that's more than what i would pay

 

If you strike a deal and decide you don't want to build it, I'd possibly be interested depending on which wheelbase. If they name a price that you don't want to give, I still might be interested. I have a Touring (19,122 original miles on the body) that I need to either build or find a chassis for - so if I could locate one for the "right price" I'd go that way. Chassis do tend to be around, and all I really need is the frame (I'm not a restorer!!) On the touring cars, the bodies returned to the earth much quicker.

 

Post better pictures if you want an honest assessment of value. None of your pictures show the main body, which will be the determining factor. If the only good pieces are the ones you have pictured, then $250 is probably fair. But if it has a salvageable body then it might be worth a decent amount more.

I have to agree with you though, it sucks when a seller won't name a price and wants you to make an offer, and then gets all upset when it's not high enough. Clearly they have a price in mind and they're just hoping you'll throw out something much higher. From the sound of it, you probably aren't going to be able to buy this car cheaply, and it's probably not worth paying a lot for it.

 

It's only a matter of time and money. Good luck!

 

Save your money,look for a project in better condition, Dave

 

Another one will fade into history because the owner is not willing to part with his "prize". On the other side of town there was a 67 Camaro sitting in an open car port for at LEAST 28 years (as long as I have been down here) The rust piled up under the car as it slowing deteriorated. A faded sign in the back window read "not for sale". The owner died late last year. When they tried to pull it out to take it to the salvage yard it broke in half. (told to me by the tow truck driver). Shame

 

They'd have to pay me the 250 to dig it out.

 

saw a 69 camaro 6 cly automatic disappear like that owner was legally blind let grass grow up under it nope its worth big money blah blah it sat when it was junked it to broke in half and was hauled off to become an import

 

By the sounds of it your offer was good. I bought a 29 Packard in Nebraska when building my truck(in 2007) for a few parts and only gave him $250 and it looked better than that.

 

More than fair offer IMHO....but hey, some folks just don't get it.....

 

You went where with Joe Roberts? Did that degenerate take bath before you left. Good luck getting that 27 Stude.

Blind Elwood

 

If someone won't name a price, I don't buy. I can't be buyer and seller both.

 

How much?
(I don't know what it's worth, make an offer.)
Well if you don't know what it's worth how will you know whether to accept an offer?
(I'll know it when I hear it.)
OK hear this: fuck you.

 

I could sell $1000 in parts out of it without even breathing hard and still have plenty left. If you're offering less than that, forget it - where the hell you going to find another '27 Stude? And you don't even show us the body, you've assumed it's junk because apparently you don't think you can fix it - but THAT DON'T MAKE IT JUNK. Too damned many guys go around wearing blinders limited by their own lack of skill to do much more than the basics, or they're afraid of rust, bodywork, metal fab and welding, so to them a car that needs some of that is junk, when there's 10 other guys who could and would build it if just to have something different. It's one thing to know your abilities and your limits, but it's another to not even be able to stop and think that other people may be able to do things you can't - that's just plain stupid.

No one repops parts for those cars - the guy who needs the pieces is going to fix them and use them. Now it's true that '27 Studes aren't Model A's and it may take some time to find the guy who needs the parts, but just the same when that guy does turn up - where's he going to find another one either.

And there's no reason the car can't be redone with steel to replace the wood, just the same as a GM car of the period.

So when you offer basically scrap money, was it me I'd be escorting you off the property with a shotgun, frankly. I'd sooner scrap it as sell it to you for scrap money.


Also, realize this is the HAMB so you're going to get a bunch of guys still stuck in 1965 who think that's more than fair, they can even point to examples they've bought just as cheap. Of course that fails totally to take into account when people who have something like this A: don't know what it's worth, and B: don't really care. Which is the only way you steal something like this. We had a '32 Packard Light Eight that was little more than half the frame with the motor, cowl, hood and grille and ended up trading it for about $2500 worth of old toys. It had been cut down not to a doodlebug but to a powerplant for belt driven machinery, perhaps a sawmill. Not everyone is starving, and not everyone wants to give this shit away for next to nothing either. A lot of guys don't get THAT.

 

LOL...good one!
AT a swap meet this past weekend a guy had 4 photos of a Ford Vicky, no fenders or running boards, supposedly runs, I inquired 'what are you looking to get?' He says" I'm taking offers.." I was so tempted to show him a wad of singles and fives I had in my pocket.

 

I agree with rustynewyorker in that the car is worth more then what you offered. From what I can see, theres stuff on the car still pretty nice.