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Auto Enthusiasts who dodge taxes are in Schumer's crosshairs

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  1. ItsLUCKY
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    This just came to me from a car guy friend:



    Washington, D.C. - AP. Senator Charles Schumer (D-NY) held a press conference today in the Capitol's rotunda and stated that he is in the process of drafting a bill that will create a federal tax on all collector, antique, historic, special interest, hot rods and race cars. "This country is operating at a huge budget deficit," said Senator Schumer, "thanks to the previous administration's failure to seek new sources of revenue. We can no longer continue to just raise the taxes we already have. We are reaching the point of diminishing returns. We must find new sources of revenue. "There are more than one million collector cars in this country,"said Schumer, "and many of them are unregistered and untaxed. These vehicles represent sometimes sizeable assets which often appreciate from sale to sale. Much of these capital gains remain untaxed. It's about time these collectors—all of whom are rich—begin to pay their fair share. I've never heard of a poor person owning a Corvette, Ferrari, Deusenberg or Cobra." Citing the results of this year's automobile auctions in Scottsdale, Arizona as an example,where reported sales were in the tens of millions of dollars, Schumer said, "We're not talking about rusty old clunkers, here. Some of these cars represent the pinnacle of automotive history. Collectors who buy and sell them often do so privately. Some transactions are in cash and others include trades. All of these are under the Internal Revenue Service's radar. Well, that will soon end."Each state has different laws and requirements for collector cars. Those which tax them as personal property often use outdated values. An owner can pay taxes on a car the state determines is worth $5,000 and then turn around and sell it for $100,000 or more. Until now, all of this has been the purview of each state. Schumer's law will sidestep all state laws by levying a federal tax in addition to anything the individual states do. This new federal tax will be similar to the present federal tax on gasoline, which is in addition to whatever a state assesses. Part of the Schumer law includes the IRS opening up a special department to deal with collector cars. Values will be calculated annually and owners will be required to list all cars they own on their 1040 tax form. Because not all vehicles are registered, and thus may not be known to the individual states' motor vehicles departments—especially race cars which are not driven on public roads—the IRS will make use of the existing network of individual collector car enthusiast organizations across the country. Many of these car clubs maintain accurate registries which detail each car by its vehicle identification number and present or last known owner and their location. Assembling an all-inclusive federal database in conjunction with these registries will be one of the first steps in implementing the new law. Once the database of owners is cross-referenced with an annual index of current collector car values, every collector or race car in the country can be taxed at a fair rate. Initially, Schumer says, it will be 10% but that would rise depending on the type of car, number produced and condition. "Collectors are willing to pay more for certain cars," said Schumer, "because of their history or the small number that were produced. These factors increase a vehicle's worth to buyers, so why should these cars not be taxed at a higher rate? It's no different than our current progressive income tax rate." It is estimated that an annual 10% tax on all collector cars presently owned by American taxpayers—at their prevailing market value—would be more than $250,000,000. In four years the coffers of the federal government could be fattened by a billion dollars. "That's only a conservative estimate," said Schumer. "Nobody knows exactly how many collector cars are out there. But by this time next year, WE will know. Owners of these cars will finally have to pay up.Their free ride—on the backs of the poor—is over."
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  2. Johnny Speedster
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    Looks Like the folks in NY need to step up and vote his ass out
     
  3. AlbuqF-1
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    Schumer's a dick about just about anything that is fun.
     
  4. Big_John
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  5. the machine
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    How is this "on the backs of the poor". Scary shit that someone with power actually thinks like this.
     
  6. davedeltadog
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    I just moved out of NY because the state is run by dickheads like him. You notice, he didn't say anything about trying to reduce government spending or cutting back on his freebes. They just want find more revenue! Don't get me started on Obama, I don't think my blood pressure could take it.
     
  7. hellsgaterods
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    what a piece of trash!
     
  8. cuznbrucie
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    You guys are the dickheads......it's an April Fool's hoax for chrissakes!

    Do your homework first before you post such alarming and political shit!

    CB
     
  9. dirt slinger
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    I hate me some politicians.
     
  10. dirt slinger
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    Joke or not, I still hate them.
     
  11. 3wLarry
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    you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him masterbate...
     
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  12. Johnny99
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    That's funny! Kinda like the 750 million $$ damage done to the Wisconsin capitol building by the protesters, all B.S.:rolleyes: Wheres Edward R Murrow when you need him.
     
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  13. mossback44
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    The scary thing here is that a story like this is actually believable when it's attributed to a "progressive" like Schumer. Guys like him actually believe that whatever wealth exists in this country belongs to all of us collectively, regardless of who worked to produce it.
     
  14. Francisco Plumbero
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    I really hate this goddam April fools bull shit. It's gonna cause a revolution some day.
     
  15. I fled NYS years ago because the revenue-generating-dips that run the place ALWAYS create new taxe, fee, law, or insurance requirement cost the people more $$$. I am not surprised, as we all know someone who has been hustling a car or two over the years to generate some fun money. NYS has had people and businesses make an exodus from the empire state for years. And they can't figure why they have funding troubles...hmmm?
     
  16. ...Nevermind my rant. I still dont have much love left for NY.
     
  17. tubman
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    Even if it were true, what would be wrong with targeting those who dodge taxes? It sure ain't folks like us; it's probably the gold-chainers that are exploiting Barret-Jackson etc. I know a couple of these guys, and the things they get away with are scandalous. A lot of the initial response seems to be "knee-jerk" to me.
     
  18. dragsta
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    exactly.... the problem is, neither are the republican'ts. both major parties are rife with tax-n-spend-thrifts.... here's a April 1st email i got from the libertarian party:

     
  19. mammyjammer
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    Even if it was not a JOKE..which it is, I would be safe...
    It says"We are not talking about rusty old clunkers"
     
  20. rlsteel
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    I dont mind paying my fair share as long as it is fair, But I am glad it was a joke.I do have a tee shirt that say,s no more taxes more gravel roads. I like chuck.RLS
     
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