Anyone ever built a gasser?

Never mind its like talking to a wall.

 

Hey good luck with your build. straight axle cars are cool....

 

Since we are on the subject of guys mis-using words, heres another one that the "g***er" types love to mis-use. lets take a look at the definition of the word "hate".
Definition of HATE

1
a : intense hostility and aversion usually deriving from fear, anger, or sense of injury b : extreme dislike or antipathy : loathing <had a great hate of hard work>

2
: an object of hatred <a generation whose finest hate had been big business — F. L. Paxson>

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westexgasrguy, do you and others really think a bunch of guys making fun of your automotive ignorance cons***utes hate? Do you feel persecuted for your faith? Have any HAMBers come by and erected a burning cross on your lawn? Been sent off to the gulag? House been firebombed? Have you been lynched recently? Tarred and feathered? Or do you think we fear you and your big bad g***ers? Far from it, They are actually a source of endless amu*****t, and yes, even mirth, merry-making and ridicule. But HATE? Cmon, get a grip.

 

In defense of the OP, most say straight axle when it doesn't have A arm front susp. The fact that it sweeps up at the ends and is NOT pefectly straight, does not mean it's not a straight axle to most. Yes the true term straight axle is a straight span of tubing and sometimes i-beam, but i bet those in the know have mis used this term. Maybe we should call it a solid axle...no wait it's hollow inside

If it isn't a g***er, than it has the raised front end style with SOLID axle emulating a g***er drag car or pickup.

Yes OP, many, many have been built.

 

Maybe these will help...

Mutt

 

Much prefer the term "straight axle" to "g***er", as Butch M has the cl*** to use. As far as I know, solid axle doesnt necessarily refer to the axle actually being physically solid, but it being a "live" axle, as opposed to independant, hence the common use of the phrase "solid axle corvette" to describe gen 1 corvettes as opposed to independant rear axle gen 2's.

 

Oh man, you are all **** (I said ****. G***er, get it?) and uptight with all that technical stuff. "G***er" is a state of mind, man...

Oh yea, and you "g***er" guys may wanna check out that pesky 24" rule that causes you so much grief and consternation, right there in the caption of the fifth photo.

 

What happened to hate'n on ratrods??

 

Amen and Hallelujah!

No a Street Beast is a really ****py KIT Car that sorta looks like a 34. Maybe you were thinking Street Freak?

Not hard to define at all - in fact one of the few types of cars that we talk about on here that actually has a RULE BOOK. unlike a Kustom, Custom, Hot Rod etc.

The RR guys got smart and left, unlike the G***er Poseurs

 

Man when I don't see much negative/positive feed back on my Henry J thread I think no one cares about this stuff...lol

 

How the hell did I miss this thread....I love it! Tell 'em Ed.....

 

have you looked at some of the so called g***ers? it a two for one...

 

Ate some chili the other night and built up a G***er like you wouldnt believe...

 

Yea, I threw that in there.

The kinda hard to define part is:
Does it have to have a solid axle? Nope, but it can.
Does it have to be jacked up. Nope, but it can.
Can it be low? Yea, but it doesn't have too be.

That kind of stuff, but you knew that. (G)
Larry T

 

Hahaha to everyone Ill get some pictures this weekend when we go down there and for those who hate on the g***ers, lets just say this small block we pulled out of his truck ran 11 seconds on pump gas that weighed over 3500 pounds. Where not doing the cheesy wannabe look, just trying something new on all our boundries. I like the mixed opinions going around though, its humerous

 

I figured you would show up as soon as the poop jokes started. What took you so long?

 

If a "g***er" is something that imitates a NHRA g***er you might take a look at http://g***ermadness.com/ and click on the "history" link on the left side of the home web page.

If you mean a straight axle street driver take a look at the posts about the Shakey Puddin 55 Chevy, if i remember correctly he did a good job of posting about the straight axle conversion of his drag car.

 

Nope not me. Wish it was, great place to be.

 

and "some guys here" just bristle at anything they don't like. Which in turn makes the younger generation think we're a bunch of jerk offs who just have bad at***udes.
A little encouragement with some history thrown in would go a lot farther than some of the negativity that goes on.

 

Yep! Sure is! I hang out all week and the day after if the weather is nice..

 

I agree with this completely. And I still say "HATERS".

 

It's a two way street. The younger guys don't seem to want to do any research or ask any questions - they just want to be cool. And the way a poster presents the question has a lot to do with the response they get.

For instance, Asking if "anybody here has ever built a 'g***er'" is like asking if anyone here owns an old car. A short search would show the answer, and allow the questioner to then ask the real question of 'How do I do it' because I don't know/need more information/need help with a specific problem.

After thousands of times trying to correct some mistakes you tend to have fun at the newbie's expense, which was the way it was done in the garage back when I was a kid. It's part of growing up. Embarr***ment won't kill you, especially on a message board. But it might teach you something to be called out on something as non-earth shattering as what is a "g***er".

And if you add in the fact that "g***ers" went from any street driven coupe/sedan that had a modified engine and/or specific body modifications in the fifties to alky burning altereds in the 60s, then you have a lot of 'splainin' to do, especially with a web site with a narrow window of focus like the HAMB. The HAMB's growth has included lots of people who are ready to throw out wrong information in an effort to look 'cool'. And that just perpetuates the problem.

It's a forum with a cross section of people who don't all think alike, but share an interest. Take it or leave it.

In the end, the information usually comes out, unless the OP is really a ****/ahole, and like this thread, there will be silly comments and the help needed and people complaining about other people not being nice enough, and people telling that person why they are not nice enough in the beginnning, etc ect etc.


Crazy_Johnny seems to have had no problem with the thread. That's a good thing, I think.



Mutt

 

Well said.

The whole g***er thing has actually been cussed and discussed as much as what is a traditional hot rod.

Sometimes you have to filter what you read something that can only come with age I am afraid. Look at what some old bung hole like myself posts as though it were a piece of fish. not that **** in a box but a real piece of fish. When you eat it you have to eat the fish and spit out the bones. if you don't you will no doubt choke.

 

Maybe some guys might not be happy that the stuff they did for most of their life has been turned into caracuture of what it really was. You might ask Bones Balough, the Mazmanians, Skip Hess, George Montgomery, KS Pittman (RIP), Doug Cook, ............. and a ton of local racers that spent every spare hour and every spare dollar they had trying to win on Sunday what a g***er is.

And after it's been discussed a thousand times, and folks still say "their definition" of a g***er is that any car that they want to call a g***er is a g***er, then what good is a definition anyway? It can be anything.

Just from the outside looking in, I'd say the old racers definition (where it started) of a g***er and a guy that's building a street cars definition don't really have much in common.

It's just another opinion. I'll go along with the "just build what you want" folks, but please don't try to change my mind about what's what. I've spent lots of years forming my opinions, even if they're wrong. (G)

Off to the shop.
Larry T

 

Hey, pork - long time no chat. Glad to see you're still kickin'.....


Mutt

 

Guys, I'm a drag racer at heart and have been drag racing, wrenching, building engines, and restoring Pontiac's since 1979. Though I have ALWAYS thought G***ERS were cool, I never looked into the actual rules for the cl***. I've just always been on a go fast mission with my 66 GTO and built it in 1989 to fit into the S/G cl*** though I never ran the cl*** and in fact honestly (here's the H word) hate throttle stop racing. It's very boring. But I am a bracket racer.

Now that I've been building my 64 GTO project, I've learned (through the HAMB) that my build really isn't a G***ER. I'm 47 years old now and have ALWAYS thought that a straight axle, raised up high in the front, whether it was dual carbs, injected or blown was a g***er. I had never taken the time to read the cl*** rules so little did I know that moving the axle forward 1" from the factory location could disqualify the car from being a true G***er. Ya have to go by the rules if you want your car to fit into a certain catagory. I should have known this when I started my thread because I have had to follow the rules for S/ST 10.90, S/G 9.90, S/C.8.90 and Quick 16.

So I apologize to the guys who's feathers I ruffled in this thread with the comments I made not knowing the true cl*** rules until I read the old rule book that was posted. I think in general, like what I always thought was a g***er is the general perception of what the car is.

So now, what really is my car ? It looks like a g***er, It will have a full interior, it will have a blown engine, a stock style rear end in original loction, full fenders, but no front inner liners (DQ), and front axle moved forward a few inches (DQ). Had to do it that way since I'm using the factory ch***is, using all of the real gl***, approved wheels, etc. Will it be a cool car when it's finished ? I think so. Should I call it a G***ER ? Doesn't look like it.

So is it now and Altered Wheel Base?

So you all know, I didn't start this project with the mindset that it had to fit into a certain cl***. I started it with the mindset of a "Certain Look" I know when she's done, It will comply with the NHRA book for ET, speed, car requirements and safety.

Crazy Johnny, I apologize I didn't mean to jack your thread, but felt I owed some of the purist guys here an apology for the comments I made. I'm going to put this same post on my 64 GTO G***er thread to hopefully let guys know I'm really not an A hole and just want to build a cool car. Thanks, Dil

 

Well at 61 years old, and having spent many many years racing, I am not offended by anyone building a car for the street and calling it a g***er, nor am I offended by anyone using the term incorrectly.
I gladly help younger guys define the term, and would do so over and over again if it helps get them interested, or encourages them to build anything, rather than sit home and watch TV, or play video ganes.
I've tried to educate my own boys on what drag racing used to be and encourage them and their buddies to read and search out the correct info on what various types of cars are so they don't look or sound silly when speaking to old guys like myself.
The difference is, no matter how much I razz or kid them, I still take time to help them, not discourage them. I think it would go a long ways to not be as harsh as some seem to be when dealing with some new guy, when we have no idea of his age or background.
If you don't want to take the time to help out the next generation, then why take the time to harr*** them? Does it take less time to stop and type a derogatory post?

 

I have to agree with my buddy Butch.....

 

Crazy Johnny, you are taking it like a man, and actually seem to "get it". Kudos. As to some of the other guys on here, you know, the whiny, private school girl types with a persecution complex, well...

 

Learn to be cool and not a hamb cop!!!!!