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How Do I Hook Up My Kickdown Cable

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  1. fiftyv8
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    I have installed a sbc engine and T700R ****** into my 1960F100.
    The sbc runs a quadrajet carby and I have it set up.
    The engine came out of an old hotrod which ran a different ****** so I am at a lose on how to hook up the T700R ****** correctly.

    Also I'd like to know what the rubber hose on the front of the carby is for?
     

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  2. Sullys garage
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    It is way cool that you put a chevy in a ford.You need a bracket to space the linkage so when you give it gas it also pulls the kick down cable.The 700 is a trickey fellow and you can burn up your ****** if not adjusted correctly.Bowler makes a self adjuster kit.Buy It! and it fixes it.Get on the web and learn the correct way to wire it and save the heartache.After that all will be cool.Enjoy.
     
  3. ibcalaveras
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    Sully is right,
    If not set right you will burn up your ******. I know from experience. Burned up a rebuilt ****** with only 300 miles on it. Its called a TV cable. (throttle Valve) Good luck
     
  4. Dane
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    Maybe these will help.

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  5. Francisco Plumbero
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    You really have that lokar unit set right up against the linkage, is that how it's supposed to be? It would seem that the thing is constantly engaged when you accelerate. Is it supposed to be engaged at all times?
    Any links you guys know about for setting up a TV cable would be helpful. Thanks
     
  6. R Frederick
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    I cut the part I needed out of an original throttle bracket and mounted it on the intake.
    [​IMG]
     
  7. Von Rigg Fink
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    TV cable is set to line pressure..If you dont know what your doing dont ..take it to someone who does..it also has to have the right amount of travel, with your throttle possition

    your 700r will love you for it, and last

    BTW..on a 700r4 ..its not a "kick down"..its a Throttle Valve possition..hence the term TV cable
     
  8. the-rodster
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    YES! Remember, it's not a kickdown cable.

    It should have zero slack, and move across the entire throttle range.

    Rich
     
  9. Sullys garage
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    Great Photos to help out a Hamber....
     
  10. gimpyshotrods
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    Also, make sure that the geometry is correct. Just because it has a ball stud that you can but the TV cable on does not mean that it is in the right place. You yourself said it previously had a different transmission.

    Look here:
    http://www.tciauto.com/Products/Instructions/instructions/gm_tv_cable_adjust.htm

    BOTH the geometry, and the adjustment are critical. You can burn up your transmission in mere minutes if they are wrong.
     
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  11. big creep
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    lokar has pdf files you can down load for free! and look on youtube too!
     
  12. ibcalaveras
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    I have a bow tie overdrives VT adapter on my truck. It for a 1406 edelbrock to 7000R4. Very well engineered They have other carbs listed on there web site. I don't recall what other carbs they have listed. Hope this helps....
     
  13. gimpyshotrods
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    Here:

    http://www.tvmadeez.com/

    Q-Jets are listed, and it looks like they need the "corrector" to fix the geometry.
     
  14. Francisco Plumbero
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    I just spent about 15 minutes on the phone waiting to talk to a guy from TCI. Well WTF?
    So I asked this guy what the proper setting is based upon for a C6 Ford transmission. According to this guy, a highly trained tech per the wording on the TCI site, you just set it to where it feels right and kicks down where it feels like it should. ......ah...huh....then he reiterates that yes sir you can burn up your transmission. ....ah...huh?
    So here we are again. So who would this fabulous tech who knows the secrets to adjusting this TV cable be? Or is this tech guy correct in that you just set it up by feel?
    If he is wrong then what the heck?

    Is it not as critical on a C6 Ford transmission? Is it just for these GM overdrive units that this is so critical?
     
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  15. gimpyshotrods
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    It is by no means as critical on a C6. You could even leave it off on a C6. In that application, it is a kickdown cable. It is meant to downshift when you gas it.

    On a 700R4/200R4, it controls a pressure valve in the valve body, which in turn controls pressure in the rest of the transmission.
     
  16. fiftyv8
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    The Bowler site is not accessible right now for some technical reason.
    However if I have a GM quadrajet carby hooked up to a GM T700 ******, I ***ume I dont need a corrector kit as seen on ebay listings, only an adjuster kit which does what?
    I am guessing maintains constant pressure some how!
    Any other seller of this item since Bowler site is not open.
     
  17. Francisco Plumbero
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    Yeah, that's what I thought, I did a double check on the C6 setup. There's no way it could be held that tight. You wouldn't be able to accelerate, the cable would hold you back. So this is an overdrive trans type of thing.
     
  18. fiftyv8
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    Any body on the black hose out of the front of my carby what is it for???
     
  19. Francisco Plumbero
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    PVC or block evacuation? Not sure on a quadra jet.
     
  20. gimpyshotrods
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    That would have gone to the charcoal canister on the donor vehicle. It was to draw the fuel vapors out of the tank, and into the canister. Put a rubber cap on it and call it done.
     
  21. fiftyv8
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    Great, thanks guys.
     
  22. judd55
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    Here's a few pages that pretty much explains it...........it's a set it and forget it, but as has been said already, you got to get it right the first time. I had some trouble with the ratcheting type cable stripping out, so I got a trans shop to do the deed, he put a manually adjustable cable on and set it up in the course of a few test drives, to dial it in to the correct shift points.

    TV Cable adjustment

    http://www.tciauto.com/Products/Instructions/instructions/gm_tv_cable_adjust.htm

    http://www.tvmadeez.com/article/index.html

    Geometry of TV cable

    http://www.cpttransmission.com/Files/tec2.jpg
     
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  23. 54HotRod
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    I hope you don't mind if I highjack this thread instead of starting another one about the same thing. I have a C6 and I'm going to put an Edlebrock performer dual carb and intake setup but I don't know where to get a bracket or cables. At the moment it currently has a kickdown lever or rod to the 351W engine. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks.
     
  24. judd55
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    Check here http://www.lokar.com/product-pgs/throttlecables-kickdowns/tc-kd-pgs/kd-cables.html
     
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  25. 54HotRod
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    Well, I feel like a dumb *** now. Thanks for the help you're awesome.
     
  26. judd55
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    No worries mate, Google's you're friend :D .........Look at previous post I changed the link.
     
  27. Leevon
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    I don't hear enough about using a pressure guage for the 700R4 set-up. IMO it's the by far the best, most reliable way to make sure you've got it right.
     
  28. fiftyv8
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    Boy, if anybody has used the guage and tell me/us of their experience I would sure be glad to know about it.

    I found this after site advice http://www.tvmadeez.com/article/index.php which has helped me get my head around what such a hook up involves.

    My manifold does not seem to lend itself to use the offered mounting brackets so I am in the throws of fabricating one right now using existing bolt in points.

    I am using an aftermarket braided cable which was probably a wrong move since everything else is stock chevy, may have been simpler just to use a stock length cable, may even still happen, will save screwing around with the carby lever connection.
     
  29. 1930 A
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    Some Q-jet carbs had the linkage for a TH350 kickdown cable which is not always the same throw (amount of travel) as a TH700R4. Therefore just because its a Q-jet doesn't mean the travel is right.
     
  30. river1
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