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'32 3 Window Gasser Garage Find, at Charlotte,NC Autofair Swapmeet

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 4ever18, Apr 9, 2011.

  1. 1934coupe
    Joined: Feb 22, 2007
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    35K is rediculous sooner or later reality will set in. Just like the housing boom a lot of people owe more than the houses are worth, the secondary problem with these inflated prices is it make houses like mine in NY ***essed higher thereby raising my taxes. If I was just starting out with a normal blue color job and a mortgage I could never by a car like that, maybe a 4dr whatever so I could participate in the hobby.

    Ask all you want but Did it sell.

    Pat
     
  2. JeffreyJames
    Joined: Jun 13, 2007
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    Am I the only one that thinks this car is rad? I mean 35k is a lot but then again I've seen crazy asking prices on a lot of things and this happens to be one that I'd actually consider if I had the money. I kinda think the lightening holes and that kind of stuff just can't be done with the same sense of significance as it was done early on. Sure they are crude and not perfect but a lot of cars were built that way. A dude back then (especially in the south) didn't have dimple dies to perfect all their lightening holes.

    I would have traded my '33 and perhaps my '32 for that car.
     
  3. Kreepea_1
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    Nope! I'm diggin' it too!
     
  4. frank spittle
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    Like the poor modifications or not that is the way most back yard G***ers looked back then. The touring pros were much nicer and a few non pros cars were built better but not many. There were not many safety rules so they were built insanely. I was around back then and I really appreciate seeing a true "time machine". I very seldom run across anything like it. When that car was built there were plenty of nice cars still around. I would guess this car was built from a near cherry driver by some shade tree mechanics who didn't get it worked out and it has somehow remained in a time capsule. It looks familiar. It seems like there was one here in the Carolinas running a 413 Wedge but that was too long ago for me to say for sure. It sure does bring back memories of the A/G***ers I watched in the late '50s-early '60s This is the very kind of race car many collectors will pay big bucks for restored. It would be nice to have some history but the do***entation is right there in front of you. I like it very much.
     
  5. Deuce Roadster
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    Either you get it or you do not :)

    If a person is not into steel 1932 Fords, not into true old traditional done hot rods ... they will not get it.

    I looked at the 3W coupe ... both at Charlotte and Knoxville.
    As the owner of a original Henry body 1932 Ford 3W coupe, I feel I have a better perspective of what's there and what has been done than most folks. IMHO, the coupe will sell in the price range it is priced at. :D

    The coupe had a crowd around it ... both at Charlotte and Knoxville. There are a good many folks who " GET IT " but do not have the money. A good many of the folks who could buy the coupe ... already have a 32 Ford or a 3W coupe ( I fall in this group ).
    For some ... it is too much of a challenge. At my current age, I do not believe I would undertake it ... but I might.

    6 years ago, when I got my 3W, I would have taken on a project like this in a heartbeat.

    1 ) A lot of folks jump on the too high/too much price bandwagon in this thread, when in fact, they do not have the $$$ or have never had more than 10 grand in a hobby ride in their life.



    2 ) The economy is down ... and even 32 3W coupe prices have been lowered some.

    3 ) I believe that the " steel 32 3W " feeding frenzy has died down some. As well as other HOBBY vehicles.

    I would give 25 grand for it ... in a heartbeat :eek:
    Not because I want it but because I truely believe that before the year is over, I could sell it and make 3/4/5 grand :cool:
     
  6. This car is like everything else in the world. It's worth whatever the idiot is willing to pay. And for some reason idiots are willing to pay for these cars. These owners are members of what Jay Leno called the more money than brains club to which he claims to be the President of. They work just like everything else, if people would cut there gas usage by 10% (and just anybody can do that) you would not believe how fast the price of gas would drop. Same thing with everything else.
     
  7. hotdamn
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    Duece I agree and I think you probably could have gotten it for around that price the biggest thing that every one is over looking is people normally ask ***hole prices for things at big swap meets except for people that A: need bread and unload it or B: people that have no I dea as to what they have...

    as for some history, the car was from Hixson Tennessee which is about 10 miles north of Chattanooga, if I remember correctly he said it was built in 57, there was also a black and white pic of it running at the Brainerd Optimist Drag Strip back in the day.

    I looked this car over really hard, its very solid and it has some history. Yes its not a good deal if you want to build a gloss black hammered 32 3w, but if you guys can quit being haters for a second and look at it for what it is, as 32 3w g***er its pretty rad and as for it being built sketchy, almost all hot rods let alone race cars were sketchy as hell back in the day, any one ever seen the tech article in Custom Rodder (little pages) where they step a 40 ford frame in the rear? yea they cut it and set it on top of the rail and welded it back together, didnt even box the rails...


    would I buy it if I had 35k? I have no idea as to what 35k looks like so who knows...
     
  8. Ratrod37
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    You guy's don't know anything.$35,000 for the car and $30,000.-$40,000. in period parts and labor and you have a car thats worth at least $50,000. that will be a trailer queen with general racing history.What a DEAL!!
     
  9. Deuce Roadster
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    Very few builds here on the HAMB ( or elsewhere for that matter ) will bring the money back that has been spent on them. Especially the higher dollar ( cost wise ) builds.

    [​IMG]

    How much $$$ do you think 3WLarry lost on his 32 3W?
    More than 2 or 3 normal HAMB build prices. :D LOST.

    You do not build 32 Fords ( real ones anyway ) to make money. The old saying goes

    You never pay too much for 32 Fords or parts ... you just bought early.
    :D :D
     
  10. Gasserfreak
    Joined: Aug 31, 2004
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    Your right Mr. "ratrod". Who the hell would want to build an actual traditional hot rod, and strive for period correctness if you can afford it. Out of a car with a little history too. Jees' what were all of us thinking. hahahahahahaha. Is this a freakin' joke? Is this a HAMB version of "PUNK'D".
     
  11. Sledge
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    from Nor Cal

  12. Harrison
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    "What it is worth" is relative with MANY factors playing into that. To many, 50K-100K isn't too much to spend on a hot rod. To some, 50K isn't even much money. Don't hate them, they were smart enough to put themselves in that position.

    ....or perhaps it's a life-long dream and they have worked & saved to get into the position to pull it off - finally. (Deuce Roadster, 3wLarry, & a few others come to mind.)

    The asking price at Knoxville was 32K. I'd bet my truck that 30K would have bought it. If a guy had a 50K budget & wanted a true, early Ford hot rod, 30K spent here & another 20K spent on an engine & sorting out the ch***is concerns would net a KILLER hot rod on budget.

    If it were mine, I'd be booking a trip to the LARS. At 32K, the car would sell on the first day... & then probably again the next day at 10K (or better) more.

    JH
     
  13. 2-TONED
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    if bought for 32k. could it be built to look like one of these for another 25k?
    i dont know whos cars these are but i doubt any would sell them for 60k. 'maybe?' but i doubt it.

    the white deuce is a good deal!!
     

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  14. Gassy
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    Here are a couple more shots from Knoxville SRNats with the $32k price.
     

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  15. HeyyCharger
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    I swear I've seen this car in some old-time pics. Will dig through my archives and search for it. I clearly remember having a pic of a white un-chopped 3 window that looks very very similar. Will post it up.

    Cool car, very cool!!

    And by the way, regarding the old rusty Deuce Coupe... Just because the tag says 38k or whatever it is, doesn't mean it sold for that.....

    HC.
     
  16. 4ever18
    Joined: Nov 1, 2007
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    The current issue of Hot Rod Deluxe has a feature on this car, it's original builder, it's racing history, and the current owner.
     
  17. cakes
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  18. Deucedreamer
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    3hrs to go on eBay and it's up to $25000. But the reserve isn't met yet. Maybe it will fetch $32000 or more, but IMHO, that's too expensive. I've seen Henry 3 windows that are running driving cars with ***les for $32-$35000. I guess it all comes down to how much value a person places on the history of the car. Does it matter to price?
     
  19. 383deuce
    Joined: Jul 10, 2009
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    32k or what ever it is a KILLER 3 window with some old drag strip history. I don't have that kind of $$$ but if I did I would jump on it. As some day soon this type of car is going to run dry. I can not think it will be sooner than later. Someone like Roger Morrison from Salina Ks. needs to buy this and put it back in it's glory day condition for us all to drool over.
    What do you say Roger? Give it to Dave and have him work his wonders.
     
  20. 1959apache
    Joined: Nov 22, 2009
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    This exact coupe was in Hot Rod Deluxe Magazine, November issue that I just read... wierd.. Page 22 if you have it.
     
  21. BSARoadRocket
    Joined: Jan 24, 2008
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    I think RatRod 37 has given the most truthful answer. Once you have gone through what it takes to build and buy a car one piece at a time most end up costing more than you will ever get out of them. This Deuce coupe looks like a damn good start on a project, at 32K but if you figure out parts and labor cost to make it nice it's not that great of a deal. The body looks pretty decent but unless you can prove it has some significant history a brookville body is a better deal. If you pay average shop rate to diss***emble this original Deuce, do the metal work to get it as close as possible to the condition of a new Brookville body,and pay to have it chemically stripped you will likely have more dollars in it than a new Brookville body hood, grill, and fender set will cost you. Would I rather have the original car....Yes, is it worth the h***le and expense when I can buy the same thing newly manufactured and completely free of problems for less.....probably not. I've spent a lot of time welding patches on old bodies, straigtening panels and aligning doors so even though I love deuce steel....I'm to the point where I'm beginning to see reality and I crave clean new fresh rustfree steel!
     
  22. Deucedreamer
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    Why not just buy a fibergl*** body then? They are much much cheaper than a Brookville body and basically the same thing: they are BOTH reproductions!!!! I agree with Aussiesteve, you CAN'T compare a Henry body to a Brookville. People pay for Henry steel because they don't want to have a reproduction. I know that some say "steel is steel" and the debate between Henry and Brookville steel is splitting hairs. But I for one want Henry steel. Even though no one else will know the difference, it's ME who will know the difference. However, I still think there are better deals out there than this particular 3 window.
     
  23. Everyone goes wild about this car but really, all it is is a ratrod built in the 60s. or whenever. Sorry but as far as I can see, its so hacked up , you'd be money ahead by buying a cleaner not so chopped up body. Race history or not. It would be like selling my 1968 Firebird that I race a couple times a year 30 years later and asking a mint for it as it has race history.
     
  24. Brog
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    Can anyone explain to me why 32's are so damn expensive? I mean they are insanely cool, but I figured a solid model T body would be more expensive because it's older. Pardon my ignorance.
     
  25. tubman
    Joined: May 16, 2007
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    Besides that the styling is sooo much better, they built "T" coupes for many years, so there are a lot more of them out there, Plus the newest "T"'s are only 5 years older than this car, so the "older" argument doesn't hold water. 32's are a cl***ic one year only deal.
     
  26. Brog
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    Makes sense,

    Does anyone know exactly how many models (3 windows) were made during 32?
     
  27. Randy P
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  28. JeffreyJames
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    A 32 Ford is the only time Ford did a one year only model. Model A's were built for 4 years, Model 40's (33-34) are two years and Model T's were 19 years I believe. Couple that with the fact that they were really only sold from March until September of 1932 which really makes them only a 1/2 year car and you can start to see the lure.

    THere was a lot of anticipation on the '32 ford with them not being unveiled until December and not being available til March. Over 100,000 people put a down payment on the car without ever seeing it and this was as the height of the Depression. So here was the first car to offer an affordable V8 which all of hot rodding is based upon or at least the hey day of 1945-1955 and it's the only a car that was produced for 6 months. Now you start to see why they have been THee choice car for Hot Rodders since the beginning.


    The 32 is the quintessential car. From using the ch***is with a model a roadster body on it, the engine with the new flathead v8 or entire car itself. That's why they bring the money they do. It's a total package.
     
  29. Fenders
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    I was thinking the same thing... actually, I was thinking, what's the difference between a Brookville body and a fibergl*** body?
    And I couldn't think of any.....
     
  30. Brog
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    Thanks for the info fellas
     

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