History We ALL Love a DARE! PIX of TRULY Extinct Makes?

I read an article years ago on the 2 Climbers.

The first survivor was found and restored by a hobbiest. As I recall, Harrah's wanted it and was able to buy it. Then the seller regretted selling it, and believe it or not, he found the 2nd survivor and restored it.

 

Does anyone have a picture of or know what a "DORRIS" is? I remember that name because it's my sisters name as well. Our family was vacationing in Florida around 1968 when dad stopped by this little out of the way museum. They had (if I remember right) a yellow frame and part body on display. The description gave year (don't remember that), called it a Dorris, and stated it was the first car with an automatic transmission. (?). I do remember teasing my sister about that name....
Jerry

 

Could this be the other one? This is, according to the description, a 1921 Climber Model 6-50 Four Door Touring.

 

1906-1926 St. Louis, Mo.

Big expensive cars and trucks.

total prod. 3100 cars 900 trucks.

 

LN7, It's great you were able to see the cars when they were displayed in Alberta, and to get to drive the replicas is really cool.
swi66, I'm glad you were able to see the car up close. At that time, few people had even heard of the car, and we all worked hard to try and get the car to Times Square to celebrate the centennial of the Great Race, but the re-run of the race never materialized due to problems with the route through China, so we were pleased that although we never got the car to the city of NY, at least we got it to the state.

For those who may be interested in the technical side of things, I have posted a few pics of the hidden details of the car.

This is a shot of the 4spd transaxle, one of, if not the oldest known example of a transmission and differential in one unit. Notice there are two sets of ring and pinion gears of different ratios, each one with a pair of sliding gears ahead of it, so essentially you have two, 2spd transmissions and a differential, in one housing. Keep in mind, this was made in 1906.

This is a shot of the flywheel, cast with vanes to pull air across the engine.


Here are some other shots of the chassis detail. The spring hangers, and axle forgings are works of art in themselves.

 

Sorry about those ginormous photos.

 

See Post #2119 on page 106

 

Dorris Motor Cars water temperature gauge on a 1924 Dorris



Dorris Motor Cars brass step on a 1903 Dorris



Dorris Motor Cars running lamp on a 1903 Dorris



Dorris Motor Cars hub on the 1924 Dorris



Dorris Motor Cars rear axle on the 1903 Dorris

 

1926 Dorris

I do not believe the year is correct on the caption.

 

Dorris automobile in Jefferson County, Colorado

 

If I recall the Peugeot Bebe type 96 of 1905 had a 2 speed trans axle, I don't know how the internals look like but it's a much smaller unit that looks like a regular rear end from the back, but on the front there is as part of the casting a big rectangular thingy, I guess this is where the gears are. (I missed such a rear end at a swap meet some years ago for $20, just the time for me to go to the ATM and it was gone...)

 

It was a great opportunity to have a chance to see the car up close like that. 100 years after its first time in Buffalo!
Also, all the original pictures of the day were in black and white, seeing the bold colors of this car was amazing! And also seeing the size and actually imagining what it would have been like t drive a car like that through those winter conditions with few roads available.

amazing restoration!
A real labor of love!

As a Western NY native, I have a special interest in The Great Race of 1908, so it was a natural for me to attend this event. Actually going to theBuffalo Museum this weekend, it's been awhile since I've been there.

 

1919 Dorris Delivery




1924 Dorris 6-80 Touring

 

The picture of the Liberty LaFrance was copied from the Golden Era Automobile Club web site with thier permission. Royal Feltner

 

Huge THANKS there, Royal. Rick Jorgensen was very, very helpful and enthusiastic when we were looking for info on the V-12 in the blue Liberty-LaFrance chain-drive speedster. Also, THAT organization has a BUNCH of fine, very rare automobiles!

 

1903 Darracq Rear Entrance Tonneau Shooting Brake; model L, 1 cylinder, 8hp, engine number 4181, car number 5118, fully restored.

 

Courtesy of Wikipedia;

Automobiles Darracq S.A. was a French motor vehicle manufacturing company founded in 1896 by Alexandre Darracq.

Using part of the substantial profit he had made from selling his Gladiator bicycle factory, Alexandre Darracq began operating from a plant in the Parisian suburb of Suresnes. The company started by building electric motor carriages until 1900 when they produced their first vehicle with an internal combustion engine. The Darracq automobile company prospered and the 1904 "Flying Fifteen" was a production model of exceptional quality that helped the company capture a ten percent share of the French auto market.

In 1902, Alexandre Darracq signed a contract with Adam Opel to jointly produce vehicles in the German Empire under the brand name "Opel Darracq." Three years later, the company expanded to the Britain, incorporating the A. Darracq Company (1905) Limited with a capitalization of £650,000. In 1906 the company expanded to Portello, a Milan suburb in Italy. They established Società Italiana Automobili Darracq (SIAD) through a licensing with Cavaliere Ugo Stella, an aristocrat from Milan. The business did not do well and Darracq shut it down in 1909 but a new partnership called Anonima Lombarda Fabbrica Automobili (A.L.F.A.) acquired the business which a few years later was called Alfa Romeo. In 1907, Darracq formed Sociedad Anonima Espanola de Automoviles Darracq in Vitoria, Spain with a capitalization of 1,000,000 pesetas.

The company began competing in auto racing as a way of gaining publicity for its products. Paul Baras drove a Darracq to a new Land speed record of 104.53 mph (168.22 km/h) at Ostend, Belgium, on November 13, 1904. Another new world record was set by a factory built Darraq special on December 30, 1905 when Victor Hémery drove his V8 Special to a speed of 109.65 mph (176.46 km/h) at Arles, France. The V8 was shipped to Ormonde Beach Daytona where it was timed at 122.45 mph (197.06 km/h) in 1906 to win the title "1906 Speed of King". On return to Europe the car was sold to Algenon Lee Guinness who set many records over the next few years until the car was retired in 1909 with a broken piston. This V8 Special(see full story at [1]) was rebuilt in 2005 using its original engine which had survived mostly intact. Darracq vehicles won the 1905 and 1906 Vanderbilt Cup at Long Island, New York in the United States and the Cuban race at Havana. Notable drivers who raced Darracqs were Louis Chevrolet, Victor Hémery Louis Wagner and Vincenzo Florio, who later founded the Targa Florio.

In 1913 Alexandre Darracq sold out to British financial interests led by Owen Clegg who relocated to the Paris headquarters to take over as the Managing Director of the company. During World War I, the Darracq factory was converted to the production of various war materials. The War ended in 1918 and in 1919, Darracq took over British Talbot and Talbot models were then marketed as Talbot-Darracqs. In 1920, the operation was reorganised as part of the Sunbeam-Talbot-Darracq (STD) conglomerate and in 1935, the company was purchased by the Rootes Group.

In 1953, a British film directed by Henry Cornelius and titled Genevieve, featured a 1904 Darracq as its centrepiece. The highly successful film sparked a huge increase in vintage automobile collecting and restoration.

 

Jimi,


"1935 Cummins co-founder Clessie Cummins drove this Cummins-powered Auburn from New York to San Francisco in 1935 on $7.62 worth of fuel."

Check out Cummins site: (Sorry Jimi, another one with videos. They work real well on my 1 day old computer with 8 meg of ram. . PS I might be out of action for a while when my wife gets back from the US in a couple of weeks. I'm not sure she will accept, "But Zoe (the dog) and I discussed it, at length, and agreed, (after 30 seconds), it was OK to buy another laptop." ):

http://www.cummins.com/CumminsMigra...d=4&siteId=1&nodeName=In+Pictures&menuId=1000



"Spotted in the Auburn-Cord-Duesenberg museum in June 1991: the 1934 two-stroke Cummins Diesel #5. The car used a Duesenberg-built chassis, hence why it ended up in this particular museum. (photo HG)"

http://www.forix.com/8w/penske-mercedes-pc23-stockblocks.html

 

http://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/galloway-car.htm




A Galloway photographed in Australia.Dennis in NZ .................

http://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/galloway-car.htm



Galloway car, Myreton Motor Museum,
near Edinburgh

http://www.herstoria.com/discover/womenandmotors.html



Photograph taken by ...... (Fox-Talbot) of a fine 1924 Galloway 10/20 at the annual Biggar Vintage Rally, August, 2008

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galloway_(car)















http://www.bbc.co.uk/scotland/education/hist/employment/cars/section_b/page03.shtml

 

Just subscribed to this thread!!! Should be interesting.

 

Welcome to the HAMB and to this thread 72Gremlin! This thread has grown and broadened a couple of times since we started, so if you drop back a couple of pages to Post #5,000, I did a summary of our present status. It may help you grasp the why and how of osme of the stuff we post nowadays. Again, welcome!

 

Grahame, the British Galloways were nice-looking cars! When did they start, and when was the company demise/merger/whatever???

 

Cutting (2)

I believe I listed this before but I couldn't find it in searching the thread for Cutting. There are 3 Cuttings listed in the HCCA membership directory;

1910 Runabout in New York

1911 in New York

1911 Touring in Michigan

Somewhere in this thread, Jimi listed how many Cuttings he thought we were up to before the above post. It was definitlely more then 2.

 

Another of the Mercedes Aktion K's mentioned in post 5021

 

This post showed up on the Hemming's site:

 

"Galloway was a British car maker founded in 1920 as a subsidiary company to Arrol-Johnston. It was based at first at Tongland, Kirkcudbrightshire, and from 1923 at Heathall, Dumfries. It closed in 1928."

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"The company was very unusual in the world of car making in that it was largely run and staffed by women. For a while the cars were advertised as "a car made by ladies for others of their sex". The factory had originally been built as a wartime aero engine plant and T. C. Pullinger, the manager of Arrol-Johnston, was persuaded by his daughter Dorothée Pullinger to keep the factory open to provide local employment. She was made a director of the new enterprise and set up training courses and apprenticeships specifically for local women. The apprenticeships were to last for three rather than the usual five years as the girls were thought to be better at attending and quicker learners than boys."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galloway_(car)

 

McCue - Extinct?

The McCue Car Company was in business from 1909 through 1911. The company was located in Hartford, Connecticut. McCue manufactured a Runabout and a four passenger Touring Car.


http://www.american-automobiles.com/McCue.html




http://projectcarbarnfinds.blogspot.com/2011/01/mccue-car-1909-to-1911-motorcar.html

Can't, at this time, find anything on surviving vehicles.

 

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A little bit of miss-information there. Cummins
diesels have always been 4-strokes, not 2.

Mart3406
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http://www.kingarthurflour.com/about/history.html

 

I was looking at a french restauration shop site when I found this car that they did, I think it was discussed before: 1938 Hudson Milord cabriolet, I do believe it's a french coachbuild car.


Restauration by Kayedjian