Can a 6-71 be used with a flathead?

Weasel, I'm impressed that you knew Freddy Owens had the Willys before the Grist Bros. I'm trying to accumulate information regarding the Grist Bros, and their Willys. The Grist Bros consisted of my dad, Floyd, and my uncle, Ralph. I would appreciate any other info you might have. By the way, you were also correct with the engine combinations. Not sure how many cubic inches the Buick wound up with, but the 430 was bored and stroked to 501.

 

I am sorry, but I have heard some of the most profound information ever on this sight as it refers to traditional automotive tech. The Ford flathead motor is a waste of time, money, technology, and almost anything. Use them, drive them, dream about how fabuloud they were. Fact is they couldn't keep up with a worn out smc or a sbf with one spark plug wire off in most apps. A good running Chevy six of the era could piss all over a flathead ford with similar mods any day any time. they are beautiful to look at but a disappointment dollar for dollar. I welcome all responses, your right to be wrong is welcome. Think about the beginnings of NASCAR before you get over exited

 

Here to make friends are yah As a newbie you've managed to pee on the shoes of a whole crap load of HAMBers -- I'll bet the fur will fly now!

 

I think dale is right. but see I find it interesting that someone who purports that they are crap has spent his time reading upon them. Sounds a bit like the guy who tell's his buddies how much he can't stand fat chicks, only to be caught with his pants down and a fatty on his pecker.

me I would never have a Suck Blow Cough, but each to their own. I'm certainly not stupid enough to tell people who love them their a waste of space


Oh and the tudor out of CT is owned by a guy named Scot, it did a cross country trip and back a few years ago, a well running vehicle thats for sure.

 

Now that is some funny shit right there

Reminds me of the ole' saying "Like a moped, they're fun to ride . . . just don't let your friends see you on one!". As my buddy used to say - "Doesn't make you a bad person!".

 

There is some guy from CT running a 6-71 in a '32 Sedan. Motor sounds wicked and it runs at crank speed (I think that is what I remember).

Seems to run good and they guy loves it.

He may be one of Ronnie Roadster's buddies. Look up Ronnie and see what he says.

 

That's the one.

 

Weasel, I'm impressed you knew that Freddie Owens sold his coupe to the Grist Bros. Not very many people know this. Also impressed you knew the motor combinations the Grist Bros was using. I'm not sure if any cubic inches were added to the Buick, but the 430 MEL was bored and stroked to 501.

I'm the son of Floyd Grist, the brother that drove the Grist Bros chopped Willys back in the early 60s. If you have any other possible "little known" information regarding the Grist Bros, or any of the competition in A/Gas unblown, I'd appreciate hearing all you might have.

 

Im with FO and B&S.

This pissing match is a waste of bandwidth. Are you trolling ?

I guess you'll just have to tell all the Pioneers of this hobby/sport that they were all stupid, unintelligent and just plain dumb to go ahead and wring 2-4X the power that Henry engineered them for in the first place then go ahead and break a shitload of records with them at the Lakes, Drags, on the water and blow the doors off most news cars on the street for over 20 years.

Yeah, they must be rubbish.

Like anything, in the context of the time (this IS a traditional hot rod board right?) they were downright innovative, affordable, fast and basic engines that one could wrench on and make a LOT more HP.

Are you telling us an SBC or SBF are new tech or thats a 64 327 will run rings around a new LS based SBC ex factory.?

Don't rag on others for their engine choice...its just so happens lots of HAMBERS love FHs, Hemis, AND early SBCs.

Like I said...trolling. Haow many Fh have you built/driven/raced with terryble?

Rat

 

whatever you say chump.

 

So, what's your point? Seems pretty cool to be able to take a motor and double the HP with hand tools and careful assembly and parts choice.

Not quite sure you could say the same for the motors you mentioned.

To each his own. Not sure why your getting so angry over someone's motor choice.

Seems to me you must be one of those dudes who likes to kick up the drama.

Sell it somewhere else.

 

cool thead for sure. I think the 6 looks better and could run awesome done right. Love that blue 32. Probably easier to do the 4 and it looks great too. Let's hear some more Grist history ttttttt

 

what 671 case is on that 32?

cool blower

 

Damn well said. I agree for performance. BUT for NOSTALGIA it is what you grew up with. I would like a flathead but don't have the resources to own one for the time I have.

 

asdf

 

Isn’t this the same guy that had the same motor in his deuce roadster that now has an Ardun…..was in TRJ way back…..wife drives a 5 window.

 

Who ever did that to the poor Camaro should have their ass removed...

 

Blower Overkill???

 

No thats Ronnie Roadster, and he did run a 6/71 on his flathead in the 32, I think that motor is currently in his lakester. This car is his buddy Scot's car who also has a green early caddy powered 32.

Ron knows his stuff on blown flatheads. he does have a SCoT blown ARDUN in the roadster and his wife has a SCoT blown Navarro head flathead in the 32 5W.

 

Do not feed the troll

 

I sicerely appologize for affending anyone and certainly did not intend to cause such a shit storm. I mistakenly thought this was a sight that appreciated differing opinions if not that's fine too. I have seen more than a few comments on sbc that were more rude than I thought my comments were and in answer to a few of the questions; Yes I have owned many Ford V8 flatheads, I do like fat chicks but then I like all chicks as for the seeming desire on the part of some to watch well I'm just not into it, I think that taking a motor, any motor, and doubling the power out put with simple hand tools and careful assembly is not only laudable but etirely possible but I don't think adapting a 6:71 blower falls into that catagory. As the NASCAR comment I believe early lincoln flatheads did really well and the most notable flat motor Ford victory was "shirtless" Jimmy Florian in 1950 when he beat the likes of Lee Petty who was in an Olds V8 purely because of his driving skill a knowledge of the track. Once again I appologize for any wounded feelings

 

does anyone have a link to the video of that 32 5 window stock wheelbase coupe running a flathead and doing that giant wheelstand at the drags.ACTUALLY PUT HER ON THE REAR BUMPER!

 

This video? http://youtu.be/63A9w8gZcLs

If yes, that's not a flathead.

 

that`s the one.i guess i`m getting old and stupid.i thought that car was running a flathead.Please don`t tell me that FLATDOG`s old 34 ford street driven coupe,that ran in the 12`s with 3.25 gears had valve covers too!I sure miss that guy!

 

For inspirational purposes...remember Don Jackowski, "Flatdog" on here.
He built a 3,000 pound flathead '34 Ford specifically to see what he could learn to do with primitive tech, just a learning excercise for a brilliant self-educated scientist.
He grew impatient when the development curve slowed at 14.00 at the strip, and threw on a 4-71. A very few runs later the car was in the high 12's and still developing...it was retired from drag use at that point because the engine was beginning to twist the frame and replaced by an altered...and at that point Flatdog died of a heart attack before developing the new car.
Now...that was NOT a racecar...the automatic transmission '34 was actually a perfectly docile and untempermental street car. I actually drove the thing home from Jalopy Showdown to Northern NJ when Flatdog overdosed on Denise's cookies, about 200 miles on all types of road, with no issues of any sort. And I did smoke a new Mustang that tried to outaccelerate the heap from a stoplight...
The combination (much of which was secret, naturally) idled smoothly and seemed to have no torque curve at all, just huge overwhelming torque from off-idle to stoppitnowbeforethepolicegethere.

 

No, that Flatdog had a real flathead as Bruce has pointed out. That 32 doing the wheelie is nuts.

 

You feeling ok Josh?

 

Hey! they LOOK cool!

 

A 6-71 can certainly be used on a flathead, but my thoughts are that is to large size wise to look correct. I have a 4-71 on my flathead (276 cu. in.) with 4 stromberg 48s with progressive linkage. The car gets 18 mpg, and runs great. The manifold is a Navarro, and the drive is a Crager. I had to make my own pulleys to fit, and had to figure what distributor cap would work. It is a 59A with Pertronix ignitor and a '46 cap and wires.

 

I seem to recall that Stevens and Houtz ran a 6-71 on a flatie in a digger some years ago ran in the high 8's and Houtz had one on a flattie in a Pinto at 'Mirage about the same time but I don't recall the speed.

More years ago than that, Cotton Werksman did an article in one of the mags on a 6-71 on a 59A with boxed rods (anyone here remember those?) and home made manifold, SU1-A, Gilmer driven,multi '97's. I talked to him a couple of years after that article and I think he sold it but never ran it. I think his son does some flathead-Ardun stuff these days maybe someone on here knows him and can find out whatever happened to that engine.